0:04 Welcome to another episode of Two Sides with Ria. Today we are talking money. Is 1 million a month enough to leave a comfortable life in Lagos and is being broke about how much you earn or rather how much you spend. Joining me are Dr. who earns 1 million monthly and Yande who earns between 150,000 NRA and 250,000 naira monthly. Two different income brackets, five honest questions and two exciting games. Now, same city, different incomes and different realities. Let's hear two sides of the story. This is two sides with Ri Abdul and we're about to have some really, really interesting money talk right here with me. I have Jimok in the studio with
0:49 me as well as Ywani and we're going to be having a very honest conversation. Maybe more like a debate but more of an honest conversation. Um, how are you doing? >> I'm good, thank you. >> All right. So, tell I'm good. Tell us what you do. >> Okay. My name is Ywani. I'm a recent graduate. So, I intern >> and I also do a jobs. >> Ah jobs. Perfect. >> What do you do? >> My name is Jumok. I'm a medical doctor. I run two businesses. A public speaker and an author. >> And an author. >> An author. I love the fact that you're also a medical doctor. We'll get straight into the conversation and I want to start from a very realistic angle. Taking 1 million a month, would you consider yourself a rich person in Nigeria currently? >> No, I'm not a rich person at all. I'm only surviving. >> You're only surviving 1 million a month. You're taking 250,000 naira a month.
1:35 Would you consider yourself a poor person >> with the with the realities we're facing in Nigeria now? >> No. Still surviving cuz I don't have any family here. Just me. >> Okay. Do you have family? No, just me. >> Just you. But you don't consider yourself as a rich person. >> No, I don't. >> You don't consider yourself as a poor person? >> No. Okay, let's get into the conversation. Um, we're talking about the cost of living and I'll start with you earning 1 million naira. People have often said it's not how much you earn, it's how you actually use what you earn. But with what we're facing in Nigeria and even you being a doctor, take me through your economic realities for you. You are alone, you're paying your rent, you're paying transportation, you're paying light bill. With the 1 million naira, how are you able to sustain your cost of living? >> Okay, first of all, I have to live below my expenses and I don't make 1 million naira from being a doctor. In fact, I
2:21 make the least amount of money from being a doctor. So, I have to live below my expenses. Number one, >> how much do you make from being a doctor? Sorry. >> Less than 500,000 >> every month. >> Yes. So, I have to do my two businesses, which is a fashion business and a gifting business. I have to do both businesses and sometimes I get speaking engagements as well. So, I get some money from that side gig. and some of my books too. I've authored two books so I sell some of the books. So this is how I'm able to make 1 million NRA but I don't spend all I leave below my expenses. I ensure that I cook my food. I don't eat out. So I batch cook my food. Then on f I spend like 250 to 300k on f every month. There's data subscription about 50k. There's black tax about 200 to 250k. There's corporate social responsibilities and the like. So I mean any one is not enough. I'm just
3:08 surviving and just floating literally. >> You didn't add house rent. Are you living in a house for free? >> House rent. Oh, I even forgot that. That's a huge I mean that's like 30% of my expenses. >> I pay rent. I've been living there for the past 5 years and they increase the rent every year. >> So paying rent is actually >> How much is your [clears throat] rent? >> My rent is about 2 million naira per year. It's a mini flat. >> It's a mini flat. But do you think it's it's wise to earn about 1 million naira a month and then live in a 2 million naira 2 million naira house? Well, because you said you're living below your means. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. I'm living below my means cuz some months I could do above a million NRA. So, I'm able to save and during festive season too, I do a lot of other things too. So, I'm able to save as a person who is growing and evolving and getting to know myself. I have to leave alone at
3:54 some point. I can't keep living with my parents. I need to depend on myself. I need to know how to take care of myself and how to actually face the realities of life. Cuz when I say get married, start having children, I'll definitely have to parent. I can't go back to my parents house. So, I need to start practicing that now. So, that's why I moved out of >> I'll come back to you to speak on the fact that you earn less than 500,000 NRA as a doctor in Nigeria. But let me come to you. Um, do you live with your parents or you've rented your own place? >> I rented apartment >> with 250,000 NRA. >> Yeah. But it's a shared apartment. I have a roommate. >> Okay. So, take me through your economic realities earning 250,000 naira every month. >> Okay. So it's not even like basically 200,000. Some months it gets lower. My ushering job which is the side also is
4:39 not like 100% sure every month. You know how this job is. But basically the standard price I know that it comes in every days every month is 120k which is from my intern job. So I pay 200k month um as my rent. My transportation is 70k in a month. Data subscription 15,000 NRA. So I'm really really trying to spend below my means but you know the the economy is is just somehow >> and what do you think you can do better in a country like Nigeria? Do you think that there's more the government can do for even internship if you get higher money? Uh you know where do you intend first of all? >> VI >> VI and that's where they pay you 120,000 naira with the cost of transportation. Do they add transportation or just
5:25 120,000 NRA? >> Just 120k. >> Okay. So what do you think? Do you think there's anything the government can do to ease the burden on young people like you earning 120,000 NRA and you actually living alone? I'm trying to phantom actually how you're doing it and I can't even get to how you're able to pay your rent, pay internet, and also pay transport from one place to another. >> Okay. So, I'll start with the um BRC bus. The fair is getting higher which is not supposed to be. So, I think the government should like reduce the transport fee. It's for the for the Nigerians. It's supposed to be like very low compared to the normal transport um transportation. So with that like I think the government can like work on
6:11 the transport spare that's the BRC the cry usually >> so you think your main your main burden is transportation >> yes it's transportation cuz imagine any 120k and 70k is going into transportation I have 50k left I've not removed my data cost I've not removed my feeding although my intern organization provide launch >> launch >> yes just launch so that's really helping me most of the time I don't have to buy something because I try to live below my means. The lunch is what I take throughout the day. >> So you eat once a day. >> Yes. Times just so >> and so let's even talk about the fact that you are a doctor and you are earning less than 500,000 NRA. So if you were just surviving on being a doctor probably you will not be able to you know meet >> I would have taken a rented apartment in
6:57 the first place. I'd have probably gone back stay with my parents and um you know work close to the house so that at least um housing and transportation is reduced right I would have done that because as a doctor my salary is calculated 2k per hour >> 2k per hour >> yes so if I see 20 patients within that 1 hour I'm still going to get paid 2,000 naira and in a month with calls and everything I work like 200 hours per month so if you do the math it is around 400k right so if I'm free I'm able to take up jobs in other hospital just to um meet up with ends means right. So that's why I started a business cuz I I when I graduated from school I started I was working three jobs I was practically living in my car so once I finished one job I'll drive to the other I'll drive to the I was falling sick and the little
7:44 money I was making I was to take care of myself so I just said you know what I think I rather do something better that gives me time so that I can make more money and just be myself. And do you think that in Nigeria doctors are not um you know being treated with respect or earning what they're supposed to earn? Because from what you're telling me I have doctor friends that you know have traveled abroad and when you see what you're earning this is peanuts actually what you're taking because you are saying that 2,000 naira per hour and even if you see 20 patients is still the 2,000 naira per hour. Do you think that there's anything that you would like the government to do in terms of healthare workers because we know how important it is the the work that you all do? >> Oh, so it is I I think that one of the things government needs to look into health care as a whole both the
8:30 healthare workers even facilities because most I work in a government hospital and most patients that come they cannot even afford medications >> in a government hospital. the government hospital. Yes. So we have what we call social welfare department where we reach out to that okay this person cannot afford medication. So even the subsidized health care 90% of these patients cannot afford it. Once you tell them go and do test they will start crying. They start saying hey doctor what will I do? I work in pediatrics where children are a lot. So half the time I'm even drawn to pay for the patients cuz I'm like I can't watch this child just die. So healthcare should be affordable for every Nigerian. Trust me. Even me as a doctor, I make sure that I take care of myself. I he as healthy as I can, do my test. So because we all one health, we are all one disease.
9:15 >> Yeah. >> Away from poverty. There was a doctor that was sick and we had to start raising money from for him. Goofund me. So imagine that situation. A doctor, someone that spent seven years in the university, gave his life, everything and you know he can still afford to take care of himself. So if healthcare can be subsidized, if feeding, if food can be made cheaper because even as you are cooking your food, I am still spending a lot of money because you want to eat well, you want to add fruits and vegetables to your diet, you want to drink water, you want to take things that are nourishing to your body and also medications are so expensive. For example, I'm asic one of the inhalers I use is about 50 something,000 NRA a month. >> How many people can afford that? >> Can you imagine? It was 12,000 one month. The next month I went to buy it. the company has moved out of Nigeria was 52,000. So it is it is disheartening a lot of
10:02 patients have died because of that simple things people have died from malaria because they cannot buy antimmalaria medications. So if medications can be subsidized if healthcare financing can be subsidized I think we live in a better place. >> Yeah. But what would you say for you is the um what would you say about the cost of living in Nigeria? You say your office gives you food. You you get to eat once a day because it's quite difficult for you to buy food again to eat. It's quite difficult for you to go out and actually buy food. What would you say the cost of living is in Nigeria right now? Is is it at a breaking point? >> It's at a breaking point honestly because for me to be eating once in a day Oh my god. And I'm working. I'm the last child of my family. immediately I started working. My brother said, "Oh,
10:48 you started working. No need to call us for anything again. You're you we've we've trained you out of the university. Obviously, you can fend for yourself now." So, the country is I don't know >> and you know when we have conversations like this, it really hurts me because I believe that these is the hardship that people face that will push them to do things they're not supposed to do. Um because I know you have friends as well and often times you see your friend probably living way bigger than you but you want to have an honest living. Uh how does that affect you sometimes? How does it affect your mental health cuz you are a pretty girl so you've been there and you can just afford to eat only once a day and that's a free lunch sometimes. Does it actually push you to do something that you you actually do not want to do? >> I'm very disciplined in my call jack of all trades just
11:36 because I don't want to do bad things that girls are doing. What do you classify as the bad things that girls are doing? like um hook up Charlie >> cuz you know how school is you see girl how far you go follow me go I'll be like follow you go where >> I'll be like no even before you learn I'll be like no >> get you >> what you see me at is at my ushering job from my job to my intern I also learned nails I learned um makeup and lashes so I intertwine everything together just to make >> so from from this conversation it just makes me realize that nobody can actually live in Nigeria with actually one source of income It's actually not possible. >> It's actually not possible to live with one source of income. But then again, you can actually even put all the source of income together and you are still not able to meet your target. Does it ever
12:21 happen that at the end of the year you're not able to pay your rent? >> No. >> Has never happened to you. Has it ever happened to you that you struggle to pay your rent? >> No, it has never happened. >> So does it mean that you know you you save towards it? >> Yes, I save for everything. Before I spend, I save and then I pay for the important things. I know that okay, black tax. Okay, I need to get my mom's medications. Okay, I need to get fuel. I need to get internet. Then I spend from the rest. So from that rest, I need to pay for food. I need to pay for um transportation. Then every other thing if I can, if I'm not, I am very strict. I'm very disciplined cuz I know I do a lot of things to make the money. >> So I can't waste it. >> Yeah. But what level would you like to see Nigeria? You know, I always say that we are the future. We these are the
13:07 youths of Nigeria. And if Nigeria doesn't make it easy for the youths to actually triive, uh I'm sure that there's so many ideas that you have, but sometimes even bringing the ideas to life is actually a problem. Where would you like to see the country Nigeria in terms of the fact that the youths are actually given a great environment to actually work and achieve everything that they can achieve? >> That's a great question. Before this country can get better, honestly, it's going to take forever. I don't think I can meet the best of Nigeria. I have friends in the UK doing the same job I'm doing, but they're earning way more than I earn. >> We just we just graduated. They just graduated, too. I'm earning 120K. When I tell them how I just collected my How much is your salary? 120K. What What do
13:53 you want to $200? >> What do you want to use 120K to do? That's like the amount I spend in a day. And I'll be like, that's what I spend in a month, >> you know? >> All right. So um like you said, you don't think you'll meet the best part of Nigeria and for me that is quite worrying and that's quite sad. So you're working for your children to actually enjoy Nigeria. >> Nigeria will be good thing way before they gave birth to my mother and I'm here. [laughter] We are still on the Nigeria will be good, Nigeria be good. People are saying we should vote. Honestly, in my own opinion, I'm not going to vote. >> No, you will vote. It is your duty. You vote. You will not vote. You will vote because No, no, no, no. We are on TV. You will vote because it's your duty to vote. So why would you not want to vote?
14:38 >> Since I've been voting like there is no results. We're all saying we should vote for this person. When that person comes, what does he want to do differently? Before um President Tobu came in, it was um good luck Jonathan, right? >> No, it wasn't good luck Jonathan. Before Tinubu came in, it was um >> Mohamad Buhari. >> It was Yeah, it was Bhari's Muhammad. Before Bhari, it was good luck. when good luck was there, we were all complaining this one, that one. When Bhari came in, we started missing good luck because things were cheaper then. So, I just feel like >> the more um new president comes in, the harder the country gets. >> Are you going to vote? >> I'm going to vote, but would I have a question for you? Please, let's go. >> Would you rather say because things are bad, you allow get worse or you fix it
15:25 from bad to good? >> This I can't fix it alone. Yes, you can't fix it. That's what I'm saying. Your vote counts. >> I don't think my impute if every youth is saying I don't think my impute matter. But >> if every youth is saying they want to vote, then who is going to vote? >> So this is what I've always been saying on TV. If we say that we do not want to vote, we the youth, we don't want to vote. Then at the end of the day, what do we gain? If you don't vote, then you don't have any right to speak about if Nigeria is good or bad because it shows that you're not a patriotic citizen. >> You have to. >> Since I've been patriotic, what have I gained? >> And I think that this is the mentality. This is but you know this is the mentality a lot of Nigerians >> Yes. Exactly. That's why youth don't vote. That's why they don't come out. I remember the last election I voted near my house. I think I was even on duty that day. >> So I I made sure I was there but I only saw elderly people. I didn't see young
16:11 people like me. It was only old people and then the area boys that came and they were telling me you must vote for this person. I didn't see young people. So if every young person is saying I am not going to vote then we we we don't have a say. We the youth we can't have a future in this country. So please I [clears throat] would like you to think about it again. >> Do you have a vot? >> I have. >> Oh so please you have time. >> The youth don't have voters card. If you want to see the >> but then that's a problem of the people with voters card are the old people. >> People that that are almost gone. The major population consist of the youth. Major population in Nigeria consist of the youth. So if we all see we won't come out then who is going to take over the future of the country? Who is going to bring in innovations? Youths are traveling abroad. I'm traveling abroad too. But if we're coming back very very
16:59 soon, right? So if we are all saying we are not going to take over the country, then who is the left to handle the country? Are we going to leave people to say okay it's a family business. So please I am very passionate >> when it comes to this vote. You have a vot? >> Yes, I have a vot. >> So please make sure you vote. You still have time to think about it. Vote um election is 16th of January. So you have a long time to think about when you get to the ballot you actually vote the right candidate not to influence who you want. >> I'm sure once you leave here you remember that you must vote. >> But I want to say something for somebody like you now you are planning on saying that you want to jpa. Are you patriotic as well? Because now you are leaving us in THE MESS BECAUSE NO BECAUSE THAT I'm going to train abroad so that I can >> Would you ever come back? So that's the thing. >> I will come back. I'm a very patriotic Nigerian right. I love that. You go
17:44 there you see more money in healthcare. You think you will come back. >> I will come back to do things. I want to learn. I know I'm always almost abroad every year. So I know what my colleagues are in it, right? But I also want the exposure. I want the innovation. I want the knowledge so that I can add to my portfolio. I mean people that come back to Nigeria with innovations, they do a lot of great things. So I also want the exposure and everything. But I am very passionate about Nigeria because take it or leave it if we all relocate. My mom is a very she will never reloc. She can never relocate. I have lots of family members even friends that are here that are doing well that don't want to relocate. So, as I'm relocating, am I going to import all of my friends and families or the people that I love or even the nation? Even if they're not your friends and it's your nation, it's your motherland whether you like it or not. >> All right? So, you
18:29 >> wherever you go, you'll always come back home. But we're going to go on a breeding now, but when we come back, we're going to do something very practical. Often times they say a lot of youths do not leave um according to their means. For example, you are earning 150,000 NRA, you are living in a house of three three billion NRA. Where will you get the money to pay at the end? uh you are earning 120,000 NRA. You are buying network of 50,000 NRA. What's the what what are you going to use to take care of yourself for the remaining of the month? So, we're going to do something practical on the show. When we come back, don't go anywhere. It's two sides with Ri Abdul. We'll be right back. All right, welcome back. You're still watching Two Sides with Ria Abdul. Great, I mean great conversations I've been having with this two amazing women right here. But right now, we're about to go practical. I want to know how much they spend on essential things every month. So, I'm going to give you a pen
19:16 and a paper. Uh, we're going to do this very fast. I'm going to give you this as well. So, I want you to write uh you know how much you spend on essential things like um let's say like food, um transportation, um what data very important because you need internet. You're girls. You take care of yourselves, your hair, um your clothes. So, just give me a rough estimate of the most important things you do and how much you spend on them. And here's the reason why we're doing this. Because often times uh we say that so many people do not leave uh you know within their means. Uh the amount of salary you get will determine the amount you spend on certain things. We see a lot of young people will come out and say oh we are broke. Yes we know that the money may not be enough. It's quite difficult but the little you have are you able to use it? Because often times they say if you're not able to take care
20:03 of little money it will be quite difficult for you to now take care of big money. So we're going to look at the boat and even compare. It's possible that she earns um lower than her. She may be spending more than her monthly. So, we're going to look at the both of it and just decide. Oh, I'm seeing a lot of money there. Oh, wow. >> Oh, wow. Okay. So, are we done? >> Maybe you can say some other things. >> So, here your beauty products, >> um, rent, data, food. >> Okay. For someone like me, I buy my things in bulk. >> In bulk. Okay. >> Yeah. Like my provisions, I buy like 3 months. Skare, I buy like three monthly cuz it helps to save >> save more. >> Save more. Yeah. So once I buy in September, I won't buy October, November December. >> Okay. >> So money for those groceries goes into my savings >> into your savings. Okay. >> Yeah. >> All right.
20:49 >> Skare. >> Okay. Um Okay. All right. >> So the sound of the buzzer, let me have [clears throat] it. >> Okay. >> All right. So from what I can see here, it's it's quite balanced. You can see that you live within your means and you live within your means. So we're saying your transportation is 70k and your fuel is 150,000 NRA because you earn 1 million and you earn 120,000 NRA. But even as that 70k already out of that 120,000 NRA is already, you know, a lot data is 15k. You do data 15k, you do data 50,000 naira. Okay. Uh we can see black tax is
21:36 150. You don't pay tax yet, right? Not at all. >> Okay. >> The tax men are coming for you. Okay. And then hair. Is this 50,000? >> Yes. Hair and skincare. >> Hair and skincare. All of it. 50,000 NRA. Yes. Okay. Um so we don't have hair. Okay. We have here hair. 10k. >> Yeah. So for hair >> I don't have I've not bought a wig in like 4 years. I tried to buy very good one. So >> is it because you don't want to buy a wig or you cannot afford to buy a wig? >> I can't afford to buy every year. So I make sure I'm buying quality that can last me for a very long time. This one I'm using. I bought it I bought it 2020. I bought two sets cuz I like to do ponytail so I alternate it. >> Then attachment when I'm buying I'm buying in bulk. So I'm lingering on buying new. >> Do you want to do you want to live a better life than this? >> Do you want to wake up and buy the things you want to buy?
22:21 >> Absolutely. >> At some point in my life I could buy a phone every year, >> right? But since I think 2026 2024, I've not changed my phone >> cuz the price has tripled. Before you say you want to once the new phone is coming, I'm just adding some money and buying a new one. But I I can't I can't even try that now. >> How about you? >> Okay. So, I buy wig every December. That's once. >> Every December. >> That's once in a year. >> Stop it. >> That's once in a year. >> And the wig is 10,000 NRA. >> No, like this is monthly. Like my hair month. Okay. So, how much do you budget for wig? The once in the December? >> 150k. So, my job and everything I I um save towards my wig every December. I've never missed it. >> But you I love picture. >> Okay. I went away this year. [laughter]
23:06 I went away beginning of this year. I forgotten. >> So you people just buy wig once a year? >> Yes. For me every December >> and people don't think you are suffering as >> my own. [laughter] No, for me I'm not suffering cuz I'm still >> But do you think do you think that you are I don't how do I even put it? I'm not trying to be condescending but would you say that you are average? >> I don't think so. Average is there is there a category like is it >> so is it either you are rich or you are poor so I'm trying to give average because okay I think in between maybe >> in between what >> exactly there's how do you know in between >> in between >> I always say [laughter] that it's either you are rich or you're poor or you are just surviving right is either you rich like you can afford poor or surviving >> I'm surviving or rich can you >> I'm surviving is close to poverty
23:53 [laughter] >> I can say I'm surviving >> you say you are rich I'm not rich at all I'm just surviving >> before we wrap up. What is that one thing you would like to say to um the government of Nigeria? Uh because at the end of the day, it starts with the government. So, what's that one thing you want to say? I'll start with you for a better life. You know, we're we're joking and we're talking, but these are serious issues. Um you know, these are very serious issues knowing that we're living in a country where we have other people living really large. You know, this is my first time hearing somebody buy hair once in December, honestly speaking. So, these are the realities of people. You know, what would you say you want from your government? Honestly, I will start with school, the institution. The government schools are not government schools anymore. I finished at Lagos State University. Before I entered, it was 25,000 NRA. When I
24:40 entered it was 60K. Now they are paying 150,000 NRA >> and it is a state university. >> It's expensive now to study medicine. Now, because they have an egg, I remember someone telling me that our parents are paying almost a million. I was like, what? And I heard that I heard that the federal university um their school fees too is more expensive in federal honestly especially if you're doing a medical if you're even doing a medical course is worse like cuz they say abroad you pay a lot but here it's almost free education so they are charging them now the books the accommodation it's >> it's a lot. >> Is it just education? >> No for me it's education if we can do better at that honestly. >> What about the cost of rent house rent of food? Is there something government
25:25 can do about the house rent? The house rent stuff is in the hands of [music] agents. >> No, there can be rules. >> There can be regulations. >> There can be regulations abroad. There are regulations. In fact, abroad, they pay their rent monthly. Yeah. >> Not yearly. Here. Like some some landlords even tell you if you don't pay 2 years, you can't get a new apartment. Yes. Abroad. They pay monthly. >> So if I pay this month, I can >> But for the monthly thing, I don't think it will work for Nigerians because like look at the amount Nigerians collect. You're paying it won't work. disaster and and a lot of Nigerians are not even prudent to be honest cuz December everybody will do they'll forget that you know they need to pay rent in January. So I think the yearly thing works >> for me I think basic necessities should be available for everyone especially food children are suffering a lot of children
26:10 are sick because they are malnourished so if food is made available and accessible health care if health care is available I think that the other things are just extras but if the basic things food accommodation health care survival the basic things are put in place and transportation should be affordable as well you know What's that if you were just you wake up and you're president, what's that one thing you would do for Nigeria? >> Because people say when you are not on the seat, you have so many things to say, but when you get there, what's that one thing you think that you want to your president to do for Nigeria as now that if you were president, you would do it? >> I think it's food. I'll make sure food is affordable. I I think the I make sure food is affordable for everyone. Like let everybody eat what they feel like eating. A child will be telling me,
26:56 "I've not eaten meat this month to the hospital." I'm like, "What? you've not eaten meat. When I'm telling the mother, "Oh, add milk. Add egg." She said, "Doctor, I can't afford it. I can't afford to give my child egg. It's bad. I can't afford to give my child milk." Children, they won't drive. They are almost always sick. If your child is sick, this they come back to you in two weeks and say, "Ah, doctor, I'm sick again." By time you ask them, "What are you eating?" Ah, drank in the morning. Drank pack with water. >> So, if everybody can eat well, I think is I think it will be better. It'll be a better place for us to live. Healthare to something healthare is very important. Health care should be accessible. People should not be dying because of basic things like three last week we lost three patients because they couldn't afford to buy an inhaler for asthma. Asthma >> 50 which is 55,000. >> Yes. One of the inhalers there are other
27:42 cheaper ones but I mean before they got to the hospital where we could okay let's say let's manage they died and once you put in 1 minute 2 minutes you get your relief. It's quite a sad one, but yeah, this is where we'll close the conversation. We hope that at the end of the day, the right authorities hear the youths because these are actually the future of tomorrow speak and we can only pray for a better Nigeria. Thank you all for joining me. It's it was really a beautiful conversation. You opened my mind to another life which I'm sure you know so many of our audience actually do not know of. Um I wish you all the very best. You all are bright minds. I mean you're a doctor. I hope that when you travel you get to come back to Nigeria [laughter] because the president is going to work on the the work on our health care. So we hope that you know you get back to Nigeria and I hope that you try with school and you know whatever you put
28:29 your mind to. Um I want to see the youth of Nigeria really grow because I say something Nigerian youth are smart. They're audacious. They're strong. They're courageous. >> They do exploit. They're resilient. You know if you just give them better conditions. There's nothing they cannot achieve. We've seen Nigerian youths take center stage. We've seen them travel and actually make us proud. So we actually need to give them more for us to also for them to also give us something. Thank you all for joining me on the show uh this evening. Thank you so much Nigeria. You have heard them. Um next week again we're back with another fantastic conversation or maybe a debate. Thank you so much. Good evening Nigeria.
