Ex-Satanist: "There's a Hidden Power Controlling the World" | Gabriel Estevao Testimony

0:00 that was a member of one of the secret society. Satan visited you on four separate occasions then. Yes, I visited Rome three times. You see only on top the thing that is physical, but there is a spiritual things that only the secret society can be seen. Satan himself, his throne is there. In Rome? In one of the specific place where only one person enter in this world and talk directly with Satan. That specific place is there. There is no president that is stand without the permission or the one of the secret society that is above all other secret society. The president that we see, they are only a

0:46 marionette. What all secret societies did you see represented with the Satanist movement? Welcome back to Heritage and Hope Ministries. I'm your host Alex, and I'm also joined by my brother James, and also Dr. Brian Hustad. And we have a very special guest with us today. We have Gabriel Estevao. Gabriel, thank you so much for joining us today. Amen. Praise the Lord. Thank you for this opportunity, but before I would like to read a Bible text. Okay, very good. Found is found in Ephesians, Ephesians chapter six verse 12. Specifically verse 12. The Bible say for our struggle is not against the

1:32 flesh or blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of the dark the dark world, and against the spiritual forces of evil in heavenly realm. According to the the text that we read, yeah, this telling us that we are in the middle of battle. But specifically our is not against human being. Behind the acts of human being, someone is is holding him. And then our fight is against the authorities, against the rulers.

2:19 Who are the rulers? And I was a member of one of the secret society before everything my grand- my grandpa was a a king. Okay. And to be king here in Africa, one of the three a tribe, we call tribe, Mhm. to become a king mean you need to have a spiritual connection >> Mhm. with the spiritual power. Mhm. If you don't have connection with the spiritual power, you cannot be king. And what do you mean by spiritual power? Spiritual power meaning you need to have connection with the spiritual or spiritual forces that we are talking about falling angel as a Christian.

3:05 Okay. >> For us, now we are the Christian, we call falling angel. Mhm. You need to be in in contact with them only when you are connected in spiritual dimension also. Mhm. So they were they were part of the governing authority, but also the spiritual authority as well. Yes. >> a combination? >> In Angola we have more more than 17 tribes. But among the tribes, our tribe we call Bakongo. Even you at this moment or after, you can research about Bakongo tribe in Angola. It's the one when we are talking about witchcraft, when we are talking about uh

3:51 a spiritual power, uh traditional voodoo, they don't fear. They don't be scared. Reason why people in Angola, they fear when you say I'm from Bakongo tribe. Among other tribe, they will say in their mind automatically they will say this one is a witch because they play with the witchcraft. And then my grandpa had a one kid that was my my dad. And met another young lady that was my mom. But before they had a problem to have to get to give birth. Had infertility? Yes, my mom had that problem. And a falling angel appeared called Asbad to my grandfather that was a king also.

4:38 I I didn't say he was a king at the same time also he was high priest in the Satanism society. One of the the satanic satanic society. He was high priest. And represented uh our tribe in different societies. When there is meeting national international meeting, he was representing his a king representing our tribe in that meeting in different places. And then he was also high priest of Satanist satanic. So you and your family used to be Satanists then? Before your conversion? >> Yes. Okay.

5:24 >> And my grandma also the mom of my mom, she was a witch doctor. Okay. My >> my grandfather was a king and also high priest of Satanism. In another side, my grandma, the mom of my mom was also witch doctor. Witch doctor is someone that work with the spiritual power to to to to heal people. And is connected with the spirit. Imagine if someone is sick in the going to visit my grandma, before the person come, before the the the sickness come, or before the client come, the angel the fallen angel will appear

6:11 and talk to my grandma to say oh, someone is coming. His name or her name is this. Her background is this. And the sickness that is going through is this this this this this. Before the customer appear. When the customer appear, now my grandpa- my grandma will tell the person what is going on. And then before the the before the client come, the fallen angel will talk to my grandma and talk to him to her about everything the background for the person the thing that is going through. And after before he reach, my grandma will already anticipate

6:57 to say you have this thing. Your name is this this this this this. So that the the client needed to to believe that this person have divine power. He can heal me. I can trust this person. Yeah, that is the background. And then this angel that we call that they used to call presented himself as a husband to my grandma at my grandfather. And he said from I come from the commander in chief. Commander in chief is is himself Lucifer, Satan himself. And he said, I we want one seed from the womb of your daughter.

7:44 We want to use this this seed. And we be a member of our society. We will use him as our channel. And my grandpa, he didn't anything. He didn't say no. He said, yes, that is a blessing. And then after some time, I was born. Okay, but before I was born, the same angel Asbad appeared and gave gave to my grandma a grandfather, my grandparents, the whole what can I say? The diet. A diet, okay. >> The diet. Okay. Yeah, the diet. Okay, the the food that I supposed to eat my mom supposed to eat when I'm growing

8:30 in her womb. And after I supposed born, the type of food that I supposed to eat. What kind of diet were you eating at this point? Okay, diet they told me I needed to uh My body God created us. They said the all might. The all might. >> The all might God, okay. They created us to eat natural things. Our body need natural thing, natural food. My food supposed to be my my medicine. Yeah, hospital is not they make hospital for the living dead. They told me living is for the hospital. The hospital for the living dead.

9:17 And we create food for them. But for the gods, for the stars, for the priests, they need to eat what is natural because of our my my mind. Because they needed to use me. They wanted to use me I supposed to have uh uh what can I say? A mind illuminated mind. Mhm. Mhm. Okay? And then I needed only natural food. Whole fruit. Natural fruit. No any what can I say? Any injection for the for the for the the trees or the the seed no natural Yeah.

10:02 only natural No pesticide, no fertilizers. organic Yes, was it was the reason why I grow up to be a vegan 100% 100% vegan. Yeah, that is the reason for my mind to be clear and to be connected with them and me to understand easier the things around. And the how to control the thing around. So now that now that you know you're an Adventist and further down in your walk, what do you think you know, we have a lot of guidance in the spirit of prophecy in the Bible about a plant-based diet. We have a lot of guidance especially in spirit of prophecy about getting out in the country. Yeah, we do. >> [laughter] >> You know, it's kind of like you're you're you're you're connecting with either one side or or the other, you

10:48 know, there's there's forces of good or forces of evil, you know, we have a lot of evidence again for us to connect with God and his angels by getting out in the country and by having a diet that doesn't cloud our minds. It's like okay, so Satan wants to have the most deep impression on a young mind. So he takes him and puts him on a farm far away from the city and gives him a vegan diet Right. >> him from a very early age. Right. Yeah, exactly. I mean as a parent, you know, one of my goals is to get out further in the country, you know, than I am now. Right. >> And then we're trying to implement a whole foods plant-based diet for our connection with the forces of good. Right. >> forces of evil. Mhm. Yeah. >> But he uses the same things. I was born in Luanda, the capital city of Angola.

11:34 Uh-huh. Because that's time my my my mom my parent they left the province that we call Huíla because of the civil war. They left and they came to the capital city where I was born. And the angel wanted that I needed to grow up to the farm near to the my grandpa farm and then my the angels told my grandfather to to to to call or to send the message to my to my parent that Gabriel need to go back to the to Huíla province. He needed to grow up in the farm. That's that to live in the farm. Where not any normal person supposed to visit me. Only people member of the secret society

12:20 and angels. I grow up to see falling angel in different aspect. They used to transform in this in different being. Okay, in different being human being, animal and even thing that doesn't exist in this world. They used to transform to talk to me and play with me at the that farm. And also I Satan even that farm he visited me. He used to visit me four times. So just to clarify so so you said Satan visited you on four separate occasions then. Yes. They at the farm. I left the farm with the six year. At six years old. Yeah, six years old. Okay. >> I left because it they taught me

13:06 everything that I supposed to learn from there and they said the mind of human being or the kid is the same like a plain paper. a plain white paper All the printing that we print there we we be there forever. That for them was the the base of their education. Reason why I supposed to grow up far from the normal people, far from the noise, far from only with connection with them. Um and I I've read um part of your book. I haven't read the whole book, but you're instructed to drink to drink blood. Yes, yes, also a ritual

13:52 that is very natural for them. Uh uh when there is ritual I they taught me to to to to be dependent of the human blood. Mhm. Uh there is two ritual for human blood. There's another for injection to become to you are old to become to continue to be younger. Also to drink to kill the remorse that natural feeling. Oh, to kill to kill your remorse, your natural remorse. Okay. Yeah, they taught me from from I was baby to drink uh they used to give me

14:38 a blood, okay, human blood to drink. Mhm. And also in their sacrifice in their ceremony, they used to kill and also to eat the the heart or some part of the body of the sacrifice. All members around supposed to eat. And you were a part of these ceremonies from a very early age. This was a part of you being out in the country and and being around this life. They grow up me only to do those things. Mhm. >> Yeah. They trained me. They trained me to do those things. To be to see like everything is a normal and not to love any human being. They killed the natural love. So to our viewer out there, this probably seems incredibly dark, which it is, but we

15:25 know that Satan is the originator of darkness. Right. Um and so what did it look like to communicate with these demons, with these fallen angels? What did they look like? And how often did you see them? I want to say that I had the privilege to live in two dimensions. spiritual dimension and physical dimension spiritual dimension is like you are in that room, okay, the room is closed very closed but if I'm connecting to living in the spiritual dimension that wall is nothing I can enter.

16:11 Nothing will will stop me. Even here you can see this is a a wall. make block And also this is upstairs also there is block there, but in spiritual dimension I can enter from here. I used to enter. And nothing will will stop me when I'm the spiritual dimension. Physical material cannot stop the spiritual dimension. spiritual objects Uh and I used to see an a angel from God and also fallen angel. You saw both. You saw good angels and you saw bad angels. Yes, if you they stay stopping all of them stop like

16:58 standing only not doing not doing anything, not any action. Only stopping to see them. You want to see who is fallen, who is good angel. They look the same. Yeah, they are the same. They look the same. They normal they look the same. Among all angels Satan is very different. What what did he look like and what did the regular angels look like? When they we used to call him commanding chief. Even the fallen angel they call him commanding chief. Mhm. Mhm. That is commanding chief. If you see him, but he cannot appear with his light or no even normal angel cannot appear with his

17:44 with his power or his light. He needed to keep the light. Yeah, he needed to to keep his light and appear like that so that cannot consume the person or kill the person. Satan six wings and strong, very tall, different with others. Even the the structure and the the build is different. According to the Bible why where in the Bible is an uh Ezekiel chapter 28 also Isaiah chapter 14 that details if you see him the thing that the media show or other things shows that he's ugly no, it's not true.

18:31 Satan is a angel, fallen angel. There is not anything and some more beautiful than him in this world. There is not even among the angel even among I'm talking about angel that connect with God. There is no angel compared with him in build and beauty. Wow. Yes, external build. I'm talking about the external build, but internal build is not that there's not only darkness. Even normal angels I used to see them. Those things that the media they show that Satan is this things or demon they are No, no, that's not true. A normal angel I'm talking about normal angel can make like uh

19:18 seven seven six or seven uh meters high Six or seven meters high? Yes, high. Wow. And and just for our audience here, you know, 7 m is 22 ft. And and that uh like uh what can I say in this dimension Yeah. or Yeah. the body can be four four to three meters. So you're talking something that's uh um much much taller than humans then. Yes, very very Okay. >> They are very, but there is a mystery because they it becomes small. They have a power of becoming small, even to becoming small things.

20:04 Okay. >> They have a power to transform into small things. >> So they're so they're spirit then not not flesh and blood then like us. No, no, they are not. Yeah. Yeah, so they're entirely >> it is impossible for them to transform to become What can I say? Physical. Uh it's flesh. Yeah. Which you know this all makes sense biblically because you know there was a serpent in the Garden of Eden. But it wasn't actually a serpent. It was Satan right? Um and so we do understand that um the devil and demons in the Bible take different forms, right? I mean you had the swine that were possessed by evil spirits. You've had all kinds of

20:49 manifestations like that. That is in the spirit realm. Not physical. So. Yeah, and even you know you have obviously the demonic possession of humans and then when Christ went to cast them out, what did they beg to do? To go into the swine. Right. Right, they want to be in into a host. Right. So you would see you'd be able to differentiate between the fallen and non-fallen as far as like when you see the non-fallen you know the angels of God, would they have a different you know would they have like a robe of righteousness or a different light you know that would exude from the throne I would imagine. How would you how would you be able to tell the difference you know just externally? The difference is now the action function. Those from God they come only to protect. Yeah. Even to protect those people that in

21:36 satanic group. When it there's not a time that that that Satan is needed to die, they go first to ask to all must all might. And second like they are outside of our time. They if you close your eyes and open you went already and come to ask if you we can leave this one to die or not and they will come to protect them. No, this one is not yet the time. Even there's the the evil angel wanted to kill that one they will stop. Because they respect the rules. It's not a demonstration of the power. I want to explain also another thing. It's not a demonstration of power the great controversy between evil and good,

22:24 between God and Satan. There is no fight there. The fight that they are talking about is a juridical fight. It's in your mind is what you're saying. It's a it's a choice. Yeah, okay. Yeah. Yeah. It's not like an open war where people are are dying. So so it's not a it's more a war of words. I think the Greek in in Revelation is polemos. So it's it's a it's not so much a physical battle as it is a spiritual battle over over belief and character as I understand. It's not about violence it's about hearts and minds. Yeah. Right. Yeah. And the name of also for the fallen angel the commander-in-chief is not the Satan. It's not the only juridical name the opposite

23:10 opponent. The God opponent is a lawyer is a is a lawyer is like a juridical term lawyer. The accuser. Yeah, the prosecutor. That's why also Jesus our lawyer our advocate. This is about the juridical fight. The argument there is rules. That side those people they obey and also God obey these rules. I have one question real quick. You he he keeps mentioning commander-in-chief which as an American I don't know if you guys have the same thought. It's just interesting another name for the president here in America is commander-in-chief. Um I don't think anything is by coincidence at least very rarely. Is that something you've ever heard before considered? We actually call the

23:55 president another name for him here in America is commander-in-chief. Yeah, it's not a specific president. It would it's like a generic term. So any president that comes in at that time he he is the American commander-in-chief. Does that make sense? So >> president that is stand without the permission or the one of the secret society that is above all other secret society. Yeah. Yeah. president that we see they are only a marionette. Okay, there is someone that putting him there and get that the same person from there. Yeah. So let's dive into that the secret societies there a little bit then. So you've mentioned secret societies. What all secret societies did you see represented with the Satanist

24:42 movement? Did you see Did you see the Illuminati? Did you see the Freemasons? Did you see the Jesuits? I mean who who what all did you see there that that is part of that? Oh okay uh I want to say that uh in our in our language we used to call different names but they are the same. Okay okay. names Okay. different names but uh in our own language the same the same the the same groups. Okay, all of these that uh that uh in others and other groups that they do appear they are not famous. But they are very dangerous.

25:29 Okay, they are more dangerous than other the the the people that we can see. They are those people behind the scene. That have more power. They are member also for the secret society. Okay. I remember was 19 uh 1998. I remember it was a year for World Cup. It was my first World Cup that I uh I I I watched the ceremony behind the main ceremony. Okay. Okay, where the owners of the teams Okay, the owner for the official teams

26:15 and the the president of the teams and the the main players the famous player the stars. They were meet they were meeting remember high priestess. They were there first for the ceremony. They sacrifice kids people. Okay, they sacrifice people to the dis the spirits. And all they all all of them they drink to the to the the blood and also they ate the the heart and the some meat of the person the people that they sacrificed to all of them they ate.

27:01 Okay, and then now the power the the spirits send the power to bless the ceremony. After blessing the ceremony is to convince people to watch. Bring that excite excitement. Yeah. Among them they were they were president of the Republic pastors those pastors that are very famous. Okay. Remember that those pastors that are very famous and the priest different places priest and uh different member of the secret secret society uh businessman magnatas also in that ceremony. We are talking about the people behind

27:46 Yeah. the scene. But as someone who grew up in you know the Adventist church there are many in the Adventist church who participate in sports and who watch sports. And I think this is a really important discussion to have even for me. I grew up watching sports you know I didn't know any better my parents didn't know any better and the closer I've gotten to Christ and the further I've gotten in my walk and praise the Lord football for me I'll just be honest. That was really tough for me to give up. And Christ put it on my heart and it was a struggle. Um American football. And this year was the first year that I I didn't watch a single game. Um and so what advice would you have to Christians who are you know they're they're not obviously participating in these ritual dark ceremonies but they are going to sporting events and they're

28:32 they're watching or they're playing sports themselves or their kids are playing sports. What what advice would you have to those parents? Okay, I want to say only the thing behind the scene that the people could see. The dangerous things. Remember the story of Baal? Baal Moloch Okay, we think that is a story. Yeah. But the same people the same generation in different generation they are keeping the same spirit. Mhm. I remember I was in this in in different meeting where we are talking about the same system of

29:18 a false system of worship the same system. They change only. They said we need to change the system of our and to give our gods our idols. We will create our idols according to the likeness of the people. What the people like. We need to create a god a stars that they will worship our stars. Okay? And they create uh sports. Mhm. Sport is a religion. Right. It's a religious ceremony. >> Believe or not, the sport is a religion. Mhm. Yeah. And among the sport uh any

30:04 religion there is different denomination. Mhm. >> Okay? Okay. >> Different denomination. Also sport there is different modality. Mhm. Right. >> Okay. >> That the modality in that time used to call the denomination. Among the the mo- a modality there is one is the first one they call mother of the sport. Football. Remember that? Okay. >> Okay. >> Soccer for you is soccer. Okay? Yeah. Yeah right. >> you you call soccer. Football and the other one is basket. Ah. Basketball. Okay. Okay. The the field is a sanctuary. Mhm.

30:50 >> Mhm. Every element that is inside of the san- of the the field there is meaning in the spiritual dimension. And each one is a star. Each one >> Ah. is a model. Each one is idol to the people. Yeah. Mhm. Also to the the goals represent something. The ball represent something. Remember the God of Baal. God of Baal represented the God of uh fer- fer- uh fertility. Yeah. >> And also God of uh war. Okay? And then this sport is the same thing. They are worshipping him. Imagine in your heart when your team,

31:36 okay? Imagine your team is losing and your neighbor there, his team is winning. What the thing that will start in your heart and your mind? Hatred. Envy, hatred. Yeah. Anger. Yeah. You can love? You will love your neighbor? >> No. No. We hate one neighbor. >> Yeah. Yeah. That's the the basic things. They create that to create in your heart a hatred. >> Mhm. Mhm. Yeah. >> And to worship your own idol. To worship your own player. The player that you love is your your God. At that moment you will forget that you are Christian.

32:23 The so all the things around will destroy your spirituality. Right. Right. It's a trap for people who don't understand that they're participating in a a pagan religious ceremony. You know, there's many countless Christians here who think sports are innocent. I used to be one of them, you know, and they don't realize that they're participating in a pagan religious ceremony that is designed to draw them away from Christ. Yeah. Ultimately. >> Yeah. Um now Gabrielle, you know, we started this conversation talking about this book right here, The Great Controversy. And uh one of the things that we focus on on this channel is talking about the three angels' messages of Revelation 14. And in the middle of that chapter, um

33:10 there's a discussion of a power which we believe as Protestants is describing the Roman Catholic system which has been in power for over a thousand years. And so did you see in the satanic societies any mention of Catholicism, priests, uh anything with the Pope, anything about Rome, anything in general there um that was shown to you or discussed with you? Uh praise the Lord. I visited Rome three times or more. Okay. >> the one that I remember is three times that I visited Rome. And the last time I entered in the place where any no any person like a normal person not supposed

33:57 to enter in that uh Uh you see only about uh on top the thing that is physical. But under there is a spiritual things that only the secret society can see. Okay? Satan himself, his throne is there. Mhm. In Rome. It's the place where you find different uh sanctuary. And one of the specific place where only one person enter in this world and talk direct with the Satan. That specific place is there. In Rome. Wow. Mhm. >> Yes, is there. And the Satanist they know whole Satanist they know about Easter. And also they know about

34:42 the Seventh-day Adventists. I knew before I became a Seventh-day Adventist. Really? >> Okay. Yes. Whole I I'm talking about the whole I level on Satanism. They know about these things. Mhm. They are aware. They study Bible. They are specialists. They read the Bible to understand the mind of the opposite people that we used to call the living people. Why they are living people? They are because they are connected with the life, eternal life, with the God. To all those that connected with the God they used to call living. And to throw them you need to understand their mind. And then go with the something look like the thing that they

35:28 believe. So is there you know, you you obviously had an awareness or there was an awareness of Sabbath keepers or Seventh-day Adventists, the the living people, you know, and there's there's this distinction between Catholics, but within Catholicism, the Jesuits specifically in that world of secret societies, in that world that you grew up in, was there was there an understanding that the Jesuits were different than just a normal Catholic? Jesuit in reality they are only group of the in the reality in the secret society they are a mem- they are like if you're talking about like a countries. Okay? Different country like communi- Buddhism uh Hinduism, different Muslim.

36:14 They are they are Muslim. They are not Catholic. Mhm. Mhm. Okay. Okay? Right. Right. They are they are united with any purpose because the purpose is the same. The Jesuits and the the Satanists' purpose are the same. Yeah, the the purpose is the same. Have the same people in different way, in different country, different religion, they are there. They are not fixes only to be uh like a Catholic. No, no, they are not. Remember the first system of worship is not only Catholic. Catholic is the only a one of the one of the uh I'm talking about when talking about the Babylon. Right. Right. It's one denomination is what you would

36:59 say. Babylon or first system of worship is extensive. Mhm. Right. Right. Sport is part. Okay? Remember Revelation chapter 16. They said through three spirit come from the dragon from the the beast and then from the the first prophet the false prophet. Okay? These three system they control the world. Mhm. >> Right. But they are united. Okay? They are united. Reason why the Bible said the wine of a Babylon. Not only focus in Catholic system. No. Catholic system is one of only the even the Bible said Revelation said

37:45 one of the. That we call the beast. Okay? The beast. Mhm. It's not only the beast. Also there is dragon. It's not only dragon. Also there is false prophet. And there is different system worship religion politic economic uh sport entertainment different way, but the wine is the same. The theory is the same. Um so uh I wanted to get into your as as James was talking about um your experience of how you came out of this because most people from what I understand don't make

38:31 it out of this kind of system. Um most people don't make it out of of Satanism. Um they would be destroyed. Um how is it? Can you tell me your conversion story and how it is that you came out of this incredibly dark system that you were in? Praise the Lord for this moment. There they train our mind to fear. When someone supposed to leave they will bring the person in the front of others and they will kill him or her. No matter what what is your position in the society.

39:17 When the time coming you want to run they will bring they will kill you in the front of people. Okay? They will destroy. Sometime if you are very famous they will destroy your image. Mhm. Mhm. A angel will use your image. Okay. Okay? A fallen angel will transform in your image. Mhm. Mhm. the people that you were doing that thing when you did it do. And the whole people will see is him. Mhm. Is her. Mhm. When in the reality is not that one first of all. They'll frame you. Mhm. After they will kill you in the front of the people is a ceremony. Mhm. Mhm. To make sure that if you are sitting there

40:04 you are seeing this, if you do the same thing, you will also uh finish in the same way that this one is finishing. Mhm. Mhm. To go I saw a lot of people. But remember, I want to tell something. One day if we fight and we go to the heaven, we will see a lot of high places. Okay? Really? And even the biggest Satanist you will we will see there in the heaven. Because they converted. They gave their life to Jesus because they knew. >> Mhm. And they say kill me in this moment and they kill them. And God allowed them to kill them and to be sacrificed. And something that I want to tell that all

40:50 of those people that they have the same thing. Please let us read Ecclesiastes chapter 3 verse 11. He has made everything beautiful in his time. He has also set eternity in the human heart. Yet no one can fathom what God has done from the beginning to the end. And we can say that God create everything beautiful. He put the eternity in the heart of a human being. Nothing in this world is supposed to to fit or to give me the thing that I needed.

41:37 Mhm. >> Mhm. Was that that I was looking for. I started to to think. I What what what's the meaning of the life? What of the meaning of life? Why am alive? Why am Why all all all we do these things? What I was asking to them, they taught me how to ask. If you want to learn something is not to use a statement is to use questions. Mhm. If want to to want to read or want to understand something, start with the questions. The process of answering those questions, another question will come and you are learning. I start to ask myself, why I why this emptiness inside of me?

42:23 We did a lot of evil things because they taught me to do that. And I didn't like. I was looking if there is someone that can save us. The fallen angel there is a no way you can run. Okay? Under the water in the ocean they will find you. The fallen angel they will find you. Because they are everywhere. And then I was thinking there is someone that can save me. It is impossible because we learn from another side, nothing only certain commanding chief. And I was I was also scared. I didn't want to die. Mhm. Because and but I wanted someone that can save me. For the secret societies members that

43:09 had secret society they use Satan Satan is also Jesus Christ. Okay. Okay? Also he's the Lord. Okay. >> And also he's a God. Okay. Reason why if you see someone that is saying the Satanist but they saying I praise my Jesus Christ is not talking about your Jesus Christ. They are talking about their Jesus Christ not your Jesus Christ. False Christ. >> When they are talking about God I praise I I praise God because he helping me to do whatever the thing that I did. He's not talking about your God the one that you know. Okay? They are talking about their God. Yeah. Satan also is the God. Mhm.

43:55 You can call also Satan he's a Jesus Christ. Not your Jesus Christ. Yeah. In my mind I was like no one can save me from this uh this deep darkness. No one can save me from this kingdom. I was in the shop shop of my brother my brother shop. And someone missionary Seventh Day Adventist missionary he came and he talked to me about uh the original Jesus Christ someone that he died in the cross to save the whole human being and he has power to save anyone that believe in his name. Mhm. The first time he start to talk to me. But I learned with the evil fallen angel I cannot

44:41 enter in contact with the true worship of uh the man of the cross. Mhm. Okay? I not supposed to enter in contact with them. Not supposed to talk. Mhm. I learned from the beginning from I was kid in my mind was the Seventh Day Adventist they are witches. I grow up like that. And then this one was talking about a Jesus that died in the cross is also is a savior. He's the prince of peace. He said now the Jesus that died in the cross he's a God but became a human being and died in the cross to save us from the sin. He has power to save anyone. I say okay. Are you sure that this Jesus that

45:27 you are talking about his power is more than my Jesus? And he talked for three days that we talked. Another day he disappeared he never appeared again. And I was thinking I want to meet with that Jesus. If that Jesus that that guy said is real, I want to see him. If he has the power more than my Jesus Christ, more than my um my spirit and more than the secret society, I want to see him. And I want to know him. I want to ask some question that why we allowed this thing to to happen. I had a lot of questions. After some days, I was in my room and this light was my first time

46:12 the fallen angel left me. Mhm. And they left me because of that light that was there. Mhm. And this light become like it became bigger. And it came like a no a human being full with light. He was tall. Okay? And he stopped there and he and my body was paralyzed. My eyes was open. And my body I cannot move. Mhm. What is impossible to move. And was showing me something that we used to do before. Witches, sources. When they are going to attack someone okay?

46:57 They need first to paralyze the body. But they they don't have the power to make to touch in their mind. Mhm. Only to the body to facilitate the process of doing the thing that they want to do. Mhm. In that moment was happening with me. And I say I wrote my mind I say this can be someone powerful. I was talking. I was asking in my mind who are you? Question asking, who are you? Why are you here? What's happening? Think a lot of questions. But this being that was there uh in the first thing that he told me he said, receive peace.

47:44 Like that stone heart, the coldness heart that I had. That happened that empty heart and cold. Without remorse. More than psychology more than psycho psychopath. Mhm. Mhm. In the word that he said receive peace that stone heart everything became new. Mhm. Like new heart, new thing for my first time I received peace. Mhm. I felt full. That emptiness disappeared. I felt peace. It was my first time to feel peace. Before he start to answer he said

48:31 I create you for something better. Mhm. >> God create us for something better. If you got the law, I want to write the second volume and the title will be God create you for something better. And he started to answer the questions that I asked to him with respect. You know love for the first time? Mhm. Mhm. Love for the first time. You see someone for the first time and you start to love. Okay, I saw this saw this someone and was talking to me full with light. He start to tell me the story the real story

49:17 before our world was created. The Jesus that I learned that I was saving. The reality why he became like that. He told me about the our world every when where everything is started. He told me the story until he died in the cross and resurrected and he showed me the sign. Okay where the nail the nail entered and he he showed me I was the one that died in the cross to save you and to save everyone and I appear here because you asked me to come. I appear to you because you asked me to

50:03 come and I came to show you that I'm the savior. And the savior for everyone that believe From that moment we talked we talked too much and he said I cannot talk to about the thing that already know. I needed to tell you the thing that you don't know. If the thing that I didn't know was about his all a will story. Because I received that the story but inverted the story because for me I was right in that side. But now I was feel I I saw myself that I was wrong. I was fighting against my creator against my will father. Against the will prince.

50:48 Against the real Jesus Christ the one that died in the cross. God that became a flesh and died to save us from the kingdom of darkness. And I felt I felt bad. And I say forgive me. He just paralyzed me and I went to worship him. He didn't say no. I went kneel down to him and I gave my life to him I said please forgive me from that. I received to read okay to read the Bible as a bus the Bible and the

51:34 Bible alone his like his word. The Bible and all the Bible alone. And some books that he indicated me read. Patriarch and prophet prophet and king desire of age out of apostles the great controversy Yeah the great controversy and the step to Christ among these one book that I loved too much was step to Christ and I gave my life to Jesus but okay. The life wasn't good okay I gave my life to Jesus I had a peace but persecution started

52:21 but God is with me God is with me. No matter what what battle when I was to call Jesus according to his promise and all the time that you will call my name by faith I will be there. It's interesting that in this account we hear you know the necessity of inviting. Like or or I I guess you know opening the door cuz Christ is one who he knocks at the outside of the door but he doesn't kick the door down he doesn't force his way into somebody's life. He comes in by by invitation you invite him

53:08 into your life. You have to choose him. He respects the ability of the individual to have a choice in the matter. But the moment he asked he was there you know. When was it that you stopped seeing the the forces of darkness then how soon after that did you stop seeing the evil angels and stop seeing and and stop being tormented? Was more than like 10 years I was suffering. Because I used to see them. When sometime I say people can you see some people here? They will say no okay but the God taught me to trust in him. And all these things he taught me to trust in him. Was teaching me to trust in him after he

53:56 closed my vision to see the spiritual things. Gotcha okay. And what year was it that that you finally stopped seeing them? It's 2026 now when was the last time that you you were seeing into the the spirit realm? Oh we are talking about like a 20 2017 or 2016. But they just you you kind of saw you know people in a room that that you know others in the room couldn't see but so you but otherwise were they were they harassing you or it was just like they could you could see them but they weren't allowed to touch you? Yeah I used to see them but they cannot touch them they cannot touch me also. Right right right. Oh okay I want to say something.

54:42 They have a power to control the media. They have a power to control the all the police in the world. If they are showing that because they are loud. Right right I agree yeah. They want the people to know Yes. what is going on and then after some many people we forgot that we they will forget that. Like nothing happened. I'm wondering if they're if they're trying to expose some of this evil in the news in order to push people back towards religion. That they would control. Right. I don't in in English but in Portuguese I know more more this thing in Portuguese because of all If they call the order from the cow. Yeah order from chaos.

55:29 They need to create a cow order disorder. Yeah. After the people after the cows now they will create a order behind those things they are creating something they want only to impose the law that they wanted to create it. Reason why they are creating cows. And that cow to feel to see how the reaction of the people and after they see the reaction of the people now they will to convince people. Now about this we needed to do this and this and people will believe yes we need that. Yeah behind these things is there is law they want to create something. The one of the other big things in the news recently is is the the aliens UFOs UAPs

56:19 which I believe is demonic and I think you would as well. Was there any talk and actually we have some books on the table from Roger Morneau if you want to hold those up Alex and one of the things there's a there's a clip from Roger Morneau who was involved in one of these secret societies as well and one of the satanic priest told him that one of the final deceptions would be aliens and that aliens would present themselves to to stop the sudden destruction of the planet. And the priest told us we talked for quite a while. And then he said could I have a little bit more your time I want to tell you something very fascinating. He says the grand plan the master's grand plan for harvesting the nations for harvesting the multitudes of the

57:05 earth into his cause just before the close of the great controversy between the forces of good and evil. So he continued then after we had expressed ourselves we were deeply interested to know more about the activities of spirits. And he said it's going to be done in a unique manner. This this grand plan says is going to take people people are going to eat this stuff. Because he says spirits demons spirits will declare themselves to be inhabitants of far distant planets in the galaxies that are coming to warn the inhabitants of planet earth of the impending destruction of the planet unless something seriously properly is done to avoid it.

57:50 And he went on saying saying that they will claim to have out of body experiences. Are you familiar with out of body experiences? I've read about it. In other words so a person's there's some persons are supposed to be able to you know They believe in their immortal soul. Astral projection. Yes right goes in two different parts of the world and sees things and come back and then they write all about it you know. I've heard of that. So >> [clears throat] >> due to the fact that the millions of the earth people believe in having people having an immortal soul it is readily accepted when the spirits will through a trans medium converse with influential people

58:35 of the land you see. Now what is a trans medium? It's a channeler today. What what is known today as a channeler? Channeler yeah. Shirley MacLaine's experience of getting involved with spiritism and with the inhabitants of what he named the inhabitants of far distant planets in the galaxies. I taped the whole thing it's 3 hours. When you were hearing the fulfillment of what this high priest had said 45 years ago. Yeah exactly. Was that something that came up or you were aware of any of your secret society meetings as well that they would they would use this alien distraction to at the end? Okay I want to say something that is in the Bible also in the great controversy that you had there.

59:22 The Bible said Jesus at the end we appear many Christs. Okay and many false prophets and they will search also angels that uh Paul said that at the end, the angel they have the power to transform in the light in the angel of light. But in the great controversy also that at the end of the age, the end of this world, angels they will transform in the form of human beings. I learned with them, and I I was I grow up with them. They used to transform in the being that doesn't exist in this world.

1:00:08 They are specialists to transform in that being that people needed to believe that they exist to destroy the mind of the people that there is no fallen angel. Only aliens. Aliens, yeah. Yeah. Mhm. So, they would appear to you in different forms and what people would consider as aliens. But the fallen angel uh they are alien that they are talking about there that use whole use politician, economic are fallen angels. Yeah, another word is a fallen angels. We are living together. They are here. They also there they are listening there our talking. They are doing everything to stop this thing. But God also is with

1:00:53 us to keep us. And we know as many if if there were, you know, 100 billion fallen angels, well, there were two-thirds more. Like so, a third of the angels fell away, right? So, how many more heavenly angels do we have on top of the power of Christ, which they can't stand up to? Well, uh thank you so much for joining us here today. I think it's important for us to realize just how real this battle is that we're facing. Um and uh I think that it's important that we stay close to God and stay away from all of the idols that Satan and his evil angels are trying to manufacture for us to worship anything other than God. Mhm. Um and I think we also need to realize how real this battle is. Right. Um and there's rules behind the scenes that we

1:01:38 don't even fully understand, but we can discern some of those by reading the Bible and Spirit of Prophecy. Amen. Well, thank you so much for joining us here for this episode here at Heritage and Hope. Don't forget to like, share, and subscribe to this YouTube channel so you can stay up to date because we've got a lot of exciting videos coming soon. God bless.