LG G5 vs Sony Bravia 8 II vs S95F – Best 2025 OLED TVs Side by Side

Brief Summary

This YouTube video is a live stream from Stop the FOMO, hosted at Value Electronics, comparing high-end TVs and discussing various aspects of picture quality, gaming performance, and calibration. The hosts address previous corrections, discuss the impact of matte screens and QD-OLED technology on black levels, and examine color saturation and HDR performance across different TV models. They also provide viewing recommendations based on individual preferences and room conditions.

  • Corrections and retractions on previous conclusions about matte screens and LG G5 SDR gaming brightness.
  • Detailed comparisons of the Sony A95L, LG G5, Samsung S95F, and Bravia 8, focusing on color saturation, HDR impact, and brightness preferences.
  • Discussion of calibration services, the importance of reference monitors, and the subjective nature of picture quality.

Thank you Value Electronics for hosting!

The live stream begins with gratitude towards Robert and Wendy from Value Electronics for hosting the event. The hosts express their excitement to share information about the latest TVs, including the 77-inch A95L, G5, and S95F models. Robert from Value Electronics is introduced, highlighting special deals and promotions available, such as a sale on the 77-inch A95L and 10% store credit for mentioning FOMO or Brian. The availability of professional calibration services by Dwayne Davis, including quality control, break-in, and calibration for various inputs and modes, is also emphasized.

Corrections & retractions: S95F matte screen lifted blacks

The host addresses a previous conclusion regarding the Samsung S95F's black levels, retracting the statement that the matte coating was the primary cause of lifted blacks. It's clarified that the QD-OLED panel's scatter plate has a more significant impact on black levels in bright rooms. A comparison of four TVs (S95F, B8, A95L, and G5) demonstrates that the S95F and B8 have similar black levels, while the A95L appears darker due to its corner placement and reduced ambient light. The importance of considering room brightness when choosing a TV is emphasized, as QD-OLED TVs may not perform as well in bright environments due to the scatter plate.

corrections & retractions: LG G5 SDR gaming brightness

The host corrects a previous statement about the LG G5's SDR gaming brightness. It was initially believed that the G5 had brighter SDR gaming due to a splitter unlocking peak brightness. However, it's now clarified that using a splitter tricked the TV into allowing access to brightness mode, making it a mod. The use of a splitter bypasses the TV's intended behavior and may void the warranty. The host also clarifies that gradation preferred on Sony TVs is a form of accurate tone mapping and should not be turned off.

color saturation compared

The discussion shifts to color saturation, with the host stating that the LG G5 has successfully addressed color saturation to their satisfaction. The host expresses excitement about the G5's HDR impact and questions Sony's decision to use QD-OLED for its second-generation A95L. The whites on the S95 are noted to be very white, while the G5 also exhibits very white whites. The host also mentions the upcoming Panasonic Z95B, a primary RGB OLED with Panasonic's color science, as a potential dark horse in the TV market.

HDR impact vs color saturation

The discussion focuses on HDR impact versus color saturation, using content from Jennifer Galla. The LG G5 is highlighted for its 3D cinema pop and HDR content, with the host noting that it has closed the gap in processing detail and edge enhancement compared to the Bravia 8 M2. The host also mentions that the G5 has primary RGB OLED, which allows the panel to get a little bit brighter. The host also notes that the G5 retains color as good as the others in 4000 nit content.

Brightness preferred compared

The TVs are switched to their brightness-preferred modes, and the host observes that the G5 has a slight edge in brightness. The host also notes that the A95L is not falling behind in these scenes. The host also notes that the A95L is not falling behind in these scenes. The host also notes that the A95L is not falling behind in these scenes. The host also notes that the A95L is not falling behind in these scenes. The host also notes that the A95L is not falling behind in these scenes.

What is accuracy? Color saturation or brightness

The discussion shifts to what constitutes accuracy, whether it's color saturation or brightness. The host states that the S95F looks similar to the Bravia 8 Mark II, except it has the benefit of anti-reflection in a slightly brighter ambient room. The host also states that the G5 has more detail and is brighter, but is not sure it's supposed to be. The host also states that the G5 is destroying everything in terms of detail as well.

BT.2020 Color is what exactly?

The host addresses a question about which TV to buy, stating that the LG G5 is better for overall HDR with the most. The host also states that the G5 has closed the gap with quantum dot considerably. The host also states that the G5 has closed the gap with quantum dot considerably. The host also states that the G5 has closed the gap with quantum dot considerably. The host also states that the G5 has closed the gap with quantum dot considerably.

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0:00 two one. All right, we are on. We are live. Thank you so much for coming today. I'm so excited to share everything with you. And today we have actually we're going to start off with first thanking our hosts, Robert and Wendy. Robert Valronics. We are at Valley Electronics right here. I'm surrounded by amazing TVs and surrounded by all the toys that I want, including amps, integrated amps. It's like a kid at a candy store. Projectors. Projectors. So, we definitely need to pay respects to the man who made it possible, letting me come and take over his store. Second week, second weekend in a row. Were we here last weekend or two weeks ago? Two weeks ago, right? Yeah. Yeah, we've been here weekend. I'm paying rent now. I'm

0:46 just sleeping here. And we definitely want to start off by introducing Robert the man and his amazing deals on all of these TVs real quick. So today we're going to have the 77in A95 L as well as the 77in G5. So you see the 77 in against 77 in and the 77in A95L is Sony's 2025 Cutie OLED 77in model. The Bravia 8 Mark I complaining I say I I too much. The Bravia 8 Mark I only goes up 55 in to 65 in. That's also here and available for order. And of course, the Samsung S95F goes from 55 in up to 77 in. The 83in model has a similar panel technology as

1:33 the G5 primary RGB OLED, so we'll see how that works later when it arrives. It's not available yet. Yep. So, before we move in to content comparisons, the 77in A95L is on sale. If you're interested in Sony at 77 in this year, it is now what, Robert? $39.99. Yes. right? With some extra bonuses on top of that with bonuses, right? He's going to package it, bundled it. So, if you get other things like sound bars and additionally 10% store credit if you mentioned either FOMO or Brian say, "Hey, I want the FOMO deal, the Brian deal." He's going to give you 10% store credit to get whatever accessories you want to match. And wait, wait, let's add the the great legend, the one, the one, the icon.

2:19 So, additionally, if you guys need calibration, legend, my friend. So, let's get the calibration service. Dwayne Davis, you may know him. He's one of the worldrenowned calibrators. He is also the one that calibrates all the TVs at a shootout and QC's and QC and QC. So, if you want Robert to QC your TV, meaning he will break it in over 100 hours, whatever it takes for Dwayne to then calibrate it. They'll make sure there's no dead pixels there, you know, DSSE, uniformity, all that. They will make sure to get a TV that doesn't have those issues. So, you have quality control. You have a full breakin and calibration. Now, for $650, the calibration involves calibration of all the inputs. It includes calibrating for Breck room. And if you need game mode,

3:04 one of those one of those settings could be done for game mode if you want that perfect calibration. And Dolby vision, right? So many of you want perfect Dolby Vision as well. That's all included. So for those of you saying, "Hey, you know what? I'm spending 83 on an 83 inch. I'm spending like 5,000 more than 5,000 already. Another 650 is going to make it worth it for me." Definitely let Robert know because Dwayne Davis will spend the weekend calibrating these TVs. I love it. And now, anything else, Robert, you want to throw in there? Any other sales or deals before we jump into the Well, we have a lot of other promotions and we have some secret things that I can only discuss over the phone or yes, by email, but there are some other significant savings that are exclusive to our company. Definitely Call of Electronics for the secret deals. Yes. And with

3:51 that, we would also like to jump into our well, anything else you want to add, Brian, before we jump into Well, quickly before you guys talk about the differences in sizes, the reason why the we have a G5 at 77 is only the 83 and 77 are in stock right now. Otherwise, we would have the 895L at 77 cuz it is a current TV, the only current 77 we should be comparing. But a lot of you guys have said in our comparisons, you don't have like sizes. That's simply because they're not available. So, we still only have a 65 in S95F. When those sizes come in, we'll compare those as well, but we're not trying to give any of the TVs an advantage over the other. And the A95L is going to be current. That will continue over and expect the A95L to also be updated pretty thoroughly throughout the year.

4:37 Yes, definitely. Cuz I know a lot of you say, "Hey, can they all be 65 in?" I would love 65 G5. I mean, I haven't gotten mine yet either. I also ordered from Robert. So, the 65 in G5, we're hoping. When is that being released, Robert? I think it'll be by the end of next week. Okay. So, as soon as I get it, I can do 65 versus 65. I have my peeled S95D to compare it to. And then that leads us to the actual content. We have some commentary, specifically corrections and retractions. There are two significant conclusions I had the last time we were here. They need to make the correction. And oh but with that Robert you can now rest your legs. I don't want you to be standing there the whole time because we're start

5:23 uh talking about the some of the issues that we had last week some of the conclusions and I'm going to start with this actually and it is the matte screen effect and how it lifted the blacks. So, let me jump in camera real quick now. Bryant, you saw some of those issues last week. Right. And what I wanted to demonstrate to you guys is this. So, what you have here are four TVs. And I'm not going to tell you which is which because it's always fun for you guys to guess what's what. So, this is my correction and retraction right here. So, last week or

6:10 two weeks ago when we were doing this, I said that the S95F has less deep blacks because of the matte coating. It turns out it is not because the matte coating. It does have less deep blacks. It is because it is a QD OLED panel. The scatter plate has more of an effect on lifting your black levels than the matte coating. So, as you can see, the S95F next to the B8. The B8 we know is glossy, right? Brian M's like, "Oh, yeah, it is glossy." And the S95F, obviously unpeeled. And as you can see, they are identical. Uh, and the A95L that's here, you're going to notice in some scenes is slightly darker than the other two. Even though it's CDL, it's because on the far left, although

6:56 you have a little bit of glare, it it actually has less lighting. It's a little bit darker in that corner, and so it's absorbing less of the ambient light. And so in a completely light controlled room that's dark, the black levels on the Bravia 8 and the S95F will look very similar to the G5. Yeah. However, in this bright room, that scatter plate that's on all QDLE TVs. So those of you out there looking for an S90F hoping that you'll have better black levels in this bright room, it will look just like the Bravia 8 or the S95F. It will not help you. And that's why it's so important for me to start off this retraction and correction. It is a cutie problem. And I know and I and I see graphically challenged here. This

7:42 is something that he has an issue with as well. Cutie OLED. Again, in a dark room, very close in black levels, right? Indistinguishable. But we're in a brighter room. And most of you have a bright room where you're watching TV and the like. And so, yeah, you're basing your choice on. And for for those of you that asking what the presets, we're in professional in the Sony and we're in filmmaker mode in the other two. So, we're in their most accurate presets. And I mean, we should have known this because since QD OLED launched, we've done videos on the fact that they weren't good in bright sunlight regardless of the matte screen. Our retractions a little bit more. We thought the matte screen made that worse. They've always been bad and when the sun hits them, not in a bright room, when the sun hits them, they tend to flatten out. Um, but now we realize that, you know, the matte coating isn't

8:28 really the main culprit of that, right? It has its own issues. It does change the contrast ratio. All that the right ratings tested is still valid, but from what we see here, the black levels are still a little bit raised on the Bravio the same. They're actually the same. I I think we're we're blaming the matte coating too much for everything. for everything when the reality is the BRA and this is why I love having the Bravia 8 as a control because the Bravia 8 Mark II and the S30F similar glossy type screen but it doesn't cure the issues of Cutie OLED now to nightmare on any streets point show those picture settings so I will do that right now but just real quick I've reset okay I reset all the pictures so that it's in filmmaker mode out of the box right we haven't changed the settings beyond what's default so currently let me put

9:13 this up. They are in filmmaker mode, accurate. Uh the Sony obviously is not filmmaker mode. It is called professional mode on the Sony. While the Samsung and the LG are called verbatim filmmaker mode. So, actually, you know what? Let me do that. There's space up there. So, I'll just type in professional mode as well. So, the both A95L and the Bravi 8 Mark II are in professional. And also, let me lower the exposure a bit so you guys can see the text. The LG is in filmmaker. Good. Yep. Good. So, we're in Filmmaker

9:59 and the G5 and the S95F. We're in Filmmaker. The problem with the Sony's is they're kind of sharing the same remote right now. You can see. Let me know. All right. Good. Yep, we're good. All right. So, A95L. We're in professional filmmaker on the G5 and all tone mapping is off except on the Sony's. It's on gradation preferred because gradation preferred is the most accurate mode on Sony TVs. Don't turn off gradation preferred. Keep it on gradation preferred. And on both the LG and the Samsung, Samsung is on static tone mapping. And on the LG, I've turned off dynamic tone mapping to give it its most accurate mode. Now, in a bright

10:45 room though, to give you that pop, I recommend you put the Samsung and the LG in their dynamic tone mapping modes that give you that brightness pop. On the LG, it would be in active or not active, it would be on, dynamic tone mapping, just on. And on the S95F in a brighter room, I prefer active, right? But, you know, do it to taste. There's no wrong or right answer here. Okay. A95 Ella and Bravia Mark I have more shadow detail, maybe lifted, but some will prefer that look. So, it actually doesn't have more shadow detail, per se. The only way you can see if a TV has more shadow detail would be really in a completely dark room. Max

11:31 overdrive. In a bright room, everything looks crushed. And what you see as shadow detail is really, it could be the cutie layer in Cutie OLED kind of lifting everything. So, it's not necessarily Sony or Samsung doing anything special. It's just Cutie OLED doing the cutie OLED thing. In full transparency, the A95L is more in darkness and the S95F is more in darkness. The G5 and the Bravia Mark II are closer into the sunlight. Right now, they're all in the dark, but when you look at if you think the A95 L pops more and the S95F pops more, it's because they're kind of in the corners and they're both darker. Yep. Thank you, Fran. Now, we have a second retraction and correction, and this one may affect even more of you. So, in our live stream

12:17 with the LG G5 in game mode, we noticed that, wait, did they fix this? SDR gaming is brighter. You have access to peak brightness. And suddenly, the G5 was killing it, matching the S95F, if not even brighter, possibly, right? The ability to make it brighter. And in talking to Classy and others who couldn't get that brightness mode on, it turns out that the splitter tricked the TV into allowing you to get to brightness mode. I go, "Wait a minute, Brian. Is that a mod?" Well, what's interesting is it didn't trick the G4. No, the G if you have a G4, this is not going to work. So, that's why we thought it was legit because the G5 was unlocked. Its brightness slider, it was not a slider. um high, medium, and low

13:04 and off was enabled. And then we thought it was legit because the G4 was still locked. So the splitter that we um FOMO had purchased, we did test it on the G5 that's here at 83 and we were able to mimic it and get around it. So let me put up the splitter that I So first of all, the splitter that we were using last week is a very expensive AV edge pro. I thought, wait, maybe only the AV Edge Pro gives you this advantage. So, I went and got a much cheaper splitter for us to test. And I'll put up that link right here or that image right here for you guys to see what kind of splitter I used, it was this one. So, the difference with this splitter when we enabled it was instead of the G5 automatically choosing game optimizer,

13:51 it started off on whatever preset you're in. You'll manually have to go into game optimizer, which will enable the menu. And then if you go in there, you'll see that your standard right presets. Now, also make sure for game optimizer that your audio is also in game optimizer. That way the genre selection is is there to be able to move it. Um but that was our workound. Um and for those asking, wait, why is the splitter so expensive? It's the only one I could find that was capable of verified 4K 144. 1080p 1080, right? But if you just need 4K120 and get one for like 25 bucks. But the key is this HDR might not pass the real cheap ones though. So, right. And that's, you know, so I mean, I paid a little extra to get a little extra data bandwidth out of the splitter. But the key is this. Using a splitter tricked the G5

14:37 into allowing you to be in game mode, right? You are in game mode, legit game mode. You're not in ALML, right? So, you get all the benefits of game mode. Brian just tested it and you get that peak brightness, but it's a mod. This is another mod. And at the end of the day, the question is, well, is this going to void my warranty because I'm stripping out the data that the TV thinks it's gaming. So, let me ask you, Brian, if you're a gamer who needs access to brighter SDR, would you use this mod? And maybe LG might see the mod and find a way to copy the G4 and end that mod in a firmware update. Yeah, I don't know why they have the SDR brightness really limited since it's maxed on HDR. Um, I'm going to actually ask LG if they can. Maybe it's an an afterthought to get rid

15:23 of it. I'm not a big fan of modding anything because in my mind I always wonder if I'm losing HDR later on or if I did I mess up something else. So, I tend not to. So, I wouldn't, but it's it's a cheap mod. I mean, something to get the splitter. I think it'd be arduous to unplug it or change the EDID cuz I couldn't get SDR or HDR to work. So, you'd have to then take it off and then reinstable it. But, and real quick, I want to address this question because it it is an important question for Sony fans. Wait, isn't gradation dynamic tone mapping? So, honestly, every TV is tone mapping. Dynamic tone mapping is just a term that different TV makers will use. For a Sony, gradation is them tone mapping accurately. So, even though it's it's still tone mapping, it's tone

16:08 mapping accurately. On the LG and on the Samsung, they call it off. There's still tone mapping, but off makes it as accurate as possible, but you're going to get hard clip if it gets too bright. On the Sony, when it gets too bright, that tone mapping becomes more aggressive and brings down that brightness a bit to keep the color because Sony doesn't want to confuse you. They will tell you just keep it on gradation preferred. Never turn it off. You're good to go. Whereas on the LG and the Samsung, you know, Samsung calls it static, right? That's static, right? Static is similar to the tone mapping. That's gradation on the Sony. And on the LG, turning it off is similar to static TTM. Yeah. Or uh gradation. So, it's just terms of art that each TV maker uses. But yeah, and what's interesting with the Sony's, when you go from

16:54 gradation preferred to brightness preferred, there's sometimes very little change. On the other TVs, from static to active is massive. And DTM to off is also massive. So, the flexibility is a little bit different. Especially in gaming, there's almost no difference on the Sony's with the brightness preferred and gradation preferred, right? They're very similar. And this is why this goes to another point. I'm actually going to stop right here. And thank you for the super chat. Ephro, I'm here because we cannot get this demonstration in stores. Absolutely not. You're not going to get Thank you. You're not going to get the variety nor all the TVs like this. So, real quick, I want to also remind people of my conclusion at the end of my other mod since we're doing uh mods and talking about it. So, as you saw in my

17:40 current video that I put out yesterday, which was me stripping out the matte layer on the Samsung and saying, "Oh, wow. The glossiness it does. I feel a little bit of contrast, but I was kind of in a light control room to a certain degree, if you guys saw that, right? And I didn't have a TV next to it to compare." And so here's the issue. Even after stripping off that matte layer, let me turn up the turn up the exposure again for you guys to see. I don't think the Bravia Mark II is as glossy as the S95 without the layer on it. Right. So really, right, I would still have this problem. I did not solve my contrast issue per se or the lifted black issues. So my recommendation at

18:28 the end and I will remind people now is get the G5 if you want deep blacks without any effect on the contrast because that's more important to you right you can't win on everything but if that is you know it's kind of like which is the the poison you can live with death by a thousand or reflection right then if this if you have a bright room I get the G5 but be mindful that you're going to have you're going see reflections. I had to turn this TV off behind me. You see that TV? It's actually a Bravia 7. That's a Bravia 7. It was It had a painting. I had to turn that off because otherwise you would see it on the G5. Yeah. And it was very annoying. And for me, if I was in this room, I would put the S95F where the G5 is because that

19:14 reflection in this scene was still too bright. I could see it. So, it's definitely use case specific. But I wanted those who are planning to remove the matte screen, be mindful that the QD OLED affects your image quality. That scatter plate that's in the cutie OLED is going to have an effect that may be worse than the matte screen depending on your lighting situation. And I don't think I emphasized that enough last time because I didn't have the broad. You need to see it. Yeah. Though again again, let's let the uh let the demo run just Yeah, we're going to let the demo run. Um, so we said that when the S95B and C came out before there was the matte screen, we had noticed that they struggled in bright rooms anyway. Um, but we we thought that the matte screen emphasized that more and it's not as big

20:02 an issue. Though, I think those of you that like glossy screens, that's still going to be something that you love. I love glossy screens. I think it does add something to the contrast ratio. The question is, is it worth pulling the screen off? I mean, obviously, I wouldn't do that. I I wouldn't. Uh, I ended up scuffing. I had a minor scuff that was just I don't know what it was. I I I couldn't even remove it. Wait, is that black glove so tough? Did it have dust on it or something? I It was really minor scuff. But And then the other thing I was talking to Robert Wendy. Oh, hey Wendy. Can you switch the input to one now? I'm going to use a Roku and play other content. Thank you guys for joining us on a Sunday again. We are here at Value Electronics. Please consider making your next AV purchase through them. Check the

20:49 description below for all their information. Let them know that Brian or FOMO sent you. They will take amazing care of you. This is actually my third weekend in a row here. I was here during the week shooting the Briate Mark II. FOMO's been here a couple weeks in a row. It is a big deal for us to take over the entire store. It um they're actually closed today. So, um we're all working on Sunday, so we appreciate you guys being here with us today. I love Florian's comment right here because it's important you guys. Is that Florian? Florian. No, it's Florian Large. Oh, thank you, Florian. Uh the the thing is what is your preference, right? You have to choose your poison and he'd rather have a reflection than the purplish elevated blacks. And absolutely uh you just choose the TV

21:34 that fits you. Yeah. And I think more importantly, FOMO, if if say the Brav 8 Mark II is here alone, I wouldn't think it looked like the S95F. It's all about how your mind thinks about how these TVs are when they're alone. Very important to have them alone first to really see how they look. But when you see them together, would you really miss the black level on the Brav Mark II? Probably not. Mhm. Um the reflection handling appears to be better than the G5 for that, but the G5 retains the black level regardless of what what it's doing. So KJ has a good question. FOMO, do you notice much of a difference between the A95L versus the Bravia 8 in professional mode? Saw an article saying they were changing its behavior, turning on off more processing than before. KG, it's better than that.

22:20 They've actually so I don't know if it's Samsung's fault or not, but the Bravia 8 is as bright as the Samsung S95 now. And both are slightly brighter than the A95L when the it's a larger, brighter scene. So, specular highlights are about the same, but the Bravia 8 Mark II, I want to say I I so badly, but the Bravia 8 I Mark I uh it it's full screen brightness clearly is a touch brighter, noticeably matching the S95. And we're going to have some of that content for you guys to see. But then the larger window brightnesses, when it gets bright enough, the Bravia 8 Mark II will be as bright as the S95F. And so the question is did Sony really unleash it or did the

23:08 broad or did the Samsung S95F pull back because neither are as bright as the G5 when the window brightness is a bit larger right so at you know 1% very similar but as that bright and we're talking colored windows not just white white the G5 is just dominating but you know yellows and blues as that window gets bigger and bigger the G5 starts to take over in its HDR impact. And we're going to see some of those scenes. Like I really like last time what you found the one with the storm and the rain. We're going to do that with the Sony and see how the Sony does with that. Um so yeah, I don't know about processing, but definitely brightness, the brightness curve they're allowing Sony to be to match the content a bit better. Yeah. And professional has

23:55 has been since they went from custom to professional. Professional has been a bit brighter than other companies filmmaker. And we've seen Samsung's filmmaker become more like custom used to be. They want to have that. They look Samsung is trying to get their presets tuned to be more accurate and then have the headroom with dynamic and the other presets. So they they're they're not nerfing it. They just want it to remain more accurate. Right. Mosart has a great point and this is a point of discussion that I bring up all the time. People judging black levels in a bright room. So us being the people. The thing is, if it wasn't noticeable, I wouldn't say anything because, as you point out, Mosar, in a bright room, black levels are kind of crushed, right? Meaning, as I've said before, you cannot judge shadow detail in a bright room because you're going to miss a lot of that shadow detail. It'll actually look

24:40 crushed. That's why when it's obvious that the black is lifted, I'm like, wait, they should all look dark, right? No. When you can notice it, then you have to bring it up. Pause it. Pause it. Pause it. All right. So regardless of being in a bright room, so Jen's content on this particular shot, regardless of the TV you're in, always has like a lifted black to it, even if it's on a miniLEDD or an OLED. And you can see that all the QD OLEDs are lifted. The G5 is not right. And I only bring up this shot because this shot is lifted by nature, the way she filmed it, just to show the shadow detail. and even the A95 L which is in the dark as lifted blacks. The G5 is the

25:27 only one that has black black. Right? So, we would not judge black levels if we couldn't see it. And so, that's something that you can make you can make this room pitch black and they all look just like that. And that's to Muz's point. If this room was pitch black, they would all look indistinguishably black because there's no ambient light. Well, actually, no. This this Well, this scene Well, this scene would be slightly. Yeah, it might be slightly different. They would all be light. I guess my point is they would all be lifted. They would obviously lifted, right? Cuz she did not They would be evenly lightly lifted is what I'm trying to say. So, the sun is is causing an issue in this room. Or just the ambient light. Yeah. Yeah. If if your room is just bright. So, good point, Mosart. Generally, I would not grade and comment on shadow detail unless it's obvious. And in this case, it felt obvious. And

26:13 for those of you saying, "Wait a minute, maybe the the G Well, first of all, the G5 has also been corrected. We have the most recent update. It is not going to show lifted blacks. It's Yep. It's even accurate. So now we're like, well, the reason why we want to bring the course correction is because we really do, which is why we did the the peel in the first place, is people aren't choosing the best Samsung there is simply because of the coating. They think it looks like an IPS panel. They think it looks cheap. So, we're trying to give you some more context in what it's still doing well and not doing well, right? So, we don't we just we don't like that you're not choosing it for that one reason, but none of you have actually seen it in person. And I don't know where the green is. I don't really have a lot of green thoughts on the LG's. So, this is a and I want to comment on this. This is so important. Why is the grays in the G5

26:59 more green? So, you have a combination of issues. First, this room has ambient lighting. Uh, as as KG has mentioned before, your camera sensor affects each TV differently. And the thing is, unless you're in a pitch black room, you cannot calibrate your camera to the TV accurately and you don't have a reference monitor, right? You don't have a reference monitor to double check. We don't have a reference monitor. And the sensor might be slightly sensitive to green. So, it makes Oh, this is a great scene. Which is why so very blue on camera and why cutie OLEDs are more magenta on camera. And to that point, if you see color differences, which you will see, it's not because the TV is not calibrated per se. I mean, none of them

27:45 are calibrated, but rather it's the camera sensor doing different things to different TVs. I'm going to bring that green back in again because you have to remember that each TV technology makes this the sensors like confused, right? It doesn't matter what the TV technology is. So, this is a great I'm going back to that one. This is a great monochromatic scene where it's gray, right? So, this moon is gray and I'm going to pause it as soon we as we get to that moon. There we go. Okay. So, turn up this exposure a touch. We go. Okay. Now, Blaze Brooklyn Blaze in the house. What's up, brother? What I

28:32 see is that the G5, actually, you're right. The G5 does look like it's a little bit more green, doesn't it? Green. Green. There's like a slight green tint on the G5, but that's why you got to calibrate it. By the way, these are all out of the box. Other than Yeah, the gray might have a little OLEDs have a slight magenta. Yeah, they have Well, off camera they they G5 doesn't. So, not having that makes it look green. The question is which is accurate? Which one is accurate? We don't know. You have to have a reference monitor. Maybe that is supposed to have a bit of green. And that's accurate. But without a reference monitor, I can't tell you which one's accurate. And first and second, the moon's definitely not pink. That's for sure. Green is gray, is not pink. And do

29:17 Uranus. Yeah, perhaps. Yeah, that just sounds bad. I think YouTube just canceled us right there. What that mean? So, you have a touch of magenta on the three cutie OLEDs and a touch of green on the G5, but what will the reference monitor show? And of course, not having it here, that's the whole point is it's out of the box. I don't expect it to be accurate, but if you have it calibrated, you will know for sure that it's all been corrected to reference because you're that kind of person. I think they all look great, but you're right. So if you're sensitive like Robert Lawrence, you would need to line when critics go, "Yeah, you're out of your mind, Doro." Yeah. I'm not even at all when it comes to it. I'm just G5 all the way. No, no. Here's my question for you. I I have to

30:03 say I'm going to start off uh with this. The conclusions I had last week was that the Oh, here we go. that the G5 was my HDR impact king. I was so excited to see the Bravia 8 with its glossy screen and then uh hope that it will then outperform the SI5F because I was distracted by the matte screen on the S95F. Now after seeing everything I am doubling down on the G5. I am so excited to see the G5 at the shootout because I think Be careful. Are you Are you now G5? Watch out. FOMO's FOMO now. He's blind. Wait, no. I I have to say it this way. Do you have your your LG cup or your hat? Be careful. No. Is this the Sony?

30:49 Oh, the Sony. There we go. So, this makes it more fair when I say this, right? Uh, I'm doubling down on the G5. Uh, I I've come to Brian's camp. I know the Panasonic Z95B is on its way. It's coming sometime in June. That is the primary RGB OLED with Panasonic's extra oomph of color science for cinema files that love the Sony but want the primary RGB. I think Panasonic is going to be that dark horse surprise. Well, you like the Z95A versus the G4. I preferred the Z95A over the G4 last year and I might do the same this year. We'll see. But more importantly though, as an HDR impact guy, we've come to the point where I think G5 has

31:36 successfully addressed color saturation to my satisfaction. It's not perfect. We'll have some scenes where you'll see, oh, wait, it drops a little, but the impact is definitely there. But more importantly, here's the question I'm going to ask you, Brian. You guys, enthusiasts, Sony fans, cheered when Sony chose QLED for its second generation A95L. I'm not so sure about that. Now, I think maybe Panasonic made the right decision cuz I know you and I, we were disappointed. Oh, Panasonic, what did you do? You did. You had Cutie OLED at your fingertips. I am so impressed by the G5. I'm thinking, what if it had Panasonic color out of the box? Well, there's the white. There's a big difference in the whites. Stop here. The whites on the S95 are very white and the G5 are very

32:22 white. Um, I think my my hope for them going with the the tandem OLED was really more about sizes being available. Um, I thought that maybe Panasonic would do an 83 in. Um, if they went with the tandem OLED and they didn't end up doing that and then Sony surprised us by not doing a 77. So, they both kind of disappointed me in that that regard. This video is brought to you by LG. Jesus. And you know, LG has yet to return any of our emails or phone calls. I'm like, "Hey, when I'm not getting any love, when is my B5 coming? I really want to review that B5." Waiting for LG to show me love. I'd be doing the G4 right now. Crickets, my friend. Crickets. So, all right. There's no samples. There's no review samples for

33:07 So, I mean, you know, LG is getting free love and we're not getting any to do reviews cuz I'm looking forward to see how the B5 does. If I can save you guys money, I I I really want to see. Ah, the B5 is killing it. It's matching all these TVs. And guys, with all the access that we get and all the things that we do, we're still sitting in New York right now. I'm not at Samsung. I'm not at Sony. We're not at LG. We're at Scarsdale. Someone reminded me there are some trooper chats waiting. Thank you for that reminder. Josh Gaming, you're next. Hey, thank you, Gadget Freaky. Thank you for your generosity. Has the LG G5 closed the processing detail and edge enhancement gap for 3D pop versus the Bravia 8 M2? They have closed the gap and more importantly they've chosen a technology primary RGB tandem OLED to

33:54 I'd say get ahead of some. The G5 to me now has more 3D cinema pop HDR content when it demands it. We're not talking artificial, right? If the content is there, that's why we're using Jennifer Galla. When the content is there, the G5 delivers on that 3D pop. You may lose a touch of color, but the 3D pop to me it is just impact HDR impact. Yes, they've closed the gap. I mean, forget the sharp. I mean, okay, so if you're going to look at sharpness enhancement, you have to stop the frame. You have to inspect closely. We're sitting here. We're looking at content in its full speed. And in that case, the edge enhancement isn't a big deal, right? In my opinion, I think edge enhancement is better for watching certain animation

34:40 documentaries, you know, nature, wildlife, where every detail you want it to sparkle in slow motion. But when you're watching movies and stuff and there's action, the edge enhancement to me is not a big deal. It's the contrast enhancement that makes the big deal. And Sony has that as well, right? The XR processing, cognitive processing is not so much edge enhancement, it's edge plus contrast. And the LG is doing what Sony is doing as well. So now it's not to say LG didn't do it. It's happening natively. It isn't. It's also doing something that Samsung is obviously also doing something. They're all doing something. But the advantage to the G5 is it's got primary RGB OLED that allows the panel to get a little bit brighter and that I think is better than the edge enhancement. What are your thoughts on

35:25 this whole edge enhancement? I I think that the G5 definitely has more HDR impact, but as far as three-dimensionality, I think Sony is still ahead of everybody else. Oh, you do? Because I think the focal point analysis that they do is literally again, it asks it asks you what is this a picture of and it does make that focal point. It gives it a depth of field that the other manufacturers just don't do. I noticed it against the Panasonic last year. So, I'm going to pause right here. This scene is exactly what edge enhancement and the 3D pop does. I think what's funny real quick if you if you look at the stars underneath that spaceship you're pointing to the G5. Oh I mean I'm the only point. Yeah. I mean the point is in OLEDs the fact that that sparkles Mhm. you will not see on a mini LED. Even a microLEDD doesn't sparkle like

36:10 that. So Robert, you see the sparkling on the bottom of these things. I mean I mean OLEDs are amazing. Even a W OLED right now would do that. But I still feel like Sony does you might not like it but I still think that they have more threedimensionality than the others. I saw that on the Brav8 Mark II up close. We're pretty far away. We are than the S95, but it's still slight what easily we're about 20 ft. 20 ft. 14 to 20 ft. 16 ft, right? But of course, my camera is a little bit closer, but we're visually sitting a bit farther. But I would still give them the upscaling. Um I think Samsung's 8K TV has some of the best upscaling. I think Alpha 11 has gotten close, but I think I would still give the advant the I would give the edge to Sony and processing. I would give the edge to Sony. I would and I would give then Pan but then Panasonic

36:56 to me is different cuz they don't really add the edge enhancement. Theirs is just pure processing and color science with their 3D LUTs. So those two here this is the 3D impact or the 3D pop we're talking about. Right. This is where the bright room I think hurts the two. It does because the contrast suffers in this scene whereas the G5 pops more because the contrast is preserved. Yeah. And in the in the G5, I think in some ways, FOMO, it's less about processing and more about brute force. Like it's like the brighter TV that's just being bright. And I love Josh's upgrade. This is the upgrade I recommend for everyone. Going from an LCD that's your favorite, the 900H. I know the 900H is the one that got me in trouble. So, hey guys, and thank you for that super chat, Josh. Hey guys, watching on my new

37:43 G4. What a phenomenal TV that that is the MLA mature and and you last of a breed, right? You have a collector's item coming from a Sony X9 consignment. Consignment coming from an a Sony X900H and a Samsung Q800B. Mhm. Isn't that disappointing that the Q800B is probably the same brightness as 900H? Maybe slightly brighter than 900H. And and I got in trouble with Sony for 900H cuz I called them out. Hey, you guys are taking away VRR. What happened? Like what? and it turned out to be a typo on their European site or whatever. They still never really brought that the right way. There was still something there. And so you're going from a I'd say a low luminance LCD TV, which would be the X900H for HDR. That is the G4

38:29 blows them away, especially in depth, contrast, and out of game. And so for those of you coming from a 5-year-old LCD TV like Josh is, right, the X900H is about 5 years old. Going to OLED, if you went to a B4, he'd notice the pop. He'd be happy. But you going with a G4, that is an explosive upgrade. I love it. That's where G4 is where micro lens really came into it. Yes. Yeah. Because that processing matched to the MLA. The G3 had some teething, I'd say, but the G4 nailed it. So that means those of you holding on to your money waiting for the G6, Robert's gonna have that in a year and then you could have the final mature version of primary RGB OLED. Dorian Gray, hey, thank you. Love that name. Thank you for the super chat. What about sound clarity? Any thoughts? Thank you,

39:16 buddies. So sound clarity. Generally speaking, Samsung is the worst. Uh because of their X, their one connect box. They want the TV to be super thin. There's only so much you could do with a thinner TV, right? Physics being what it is. There is not a lot of acoustic room for the Samsung and it's using real speakers. It's not using the acoustic glass surface like the Sony and the LG. So, but this year it's a little bit better on the S95. But I would give the clarity to the Sony and the LG. The larger your TV, if it's uh OLED, the better, the bigger the sound. But ultimately, it is just good enough for dialogue. If you want movies, if you're

40:02 watching movies, especially action movies, and you want to go a bit beyond dialogue, you have to get even a simple soundbar that has a subwoofer. It's the subwoofer that brings that cinema feel to the table. So, if you get a a soundbar with no subwoofer, the only one I would recommend would be the quad. To me, the quad has the lowest full moview worthy system without a subwoofer. So, I choose that one if you don't want to fit a subwoofer in your room. But, if you're able to get a subwoofer, get definitely the Samsung QN Q900 series. Excellent. The Bar 9 is awesome, too. Bar 9 is great with a subwoofer. Uh, but for me, the value winner has to be the Samsung Q900, especially the 2024 model. I mean,

40:48 for under $1,000 all in, it cannot be touched. So, yeah, but you got to get something with subwoofer. Even if it's one soundbar, it's that subwoofer that makes the difference. And with a Sony, you could get a larger subwoofer, the SW5, or smaller room, the SW3. So, yeah, there's some options, but without a doubt. or the Nakamichi Forest subwoofers 12 with a 12 channel. Yeah. Uh now, and I assume clarity, Dorian, you mean vocals, dialogue. They actually all do pretty good on dialogue. It's just the because they have a voice zoom type of technology on all of them. But you have to go with a soundbar. I mean, it's so hard to say it's good enough. Yeah,

41:34 at this distance it would be barely loud enough for me. Yeah, without the LEDs have the bigger cabinet. They have the ability to put the subwoofers and different actuators. Yeah. What's up, Matt and Bev? It's the A95 L. Still king of OLEDs. So, to that point, Matt and Bev, thank you. Another regular. You notice in these scenes, and this is Jennifer Galla's content, right? Bright, dark, all different types of HDR. The A95L is not falling behind. You're not saying, "Oh my gosh, that 885 L is so 2024 for this content, that size, you get cinema processing." It's the same. Now, we're going to push the brightness a bit in our next set of scenes from

42:20 Jennifer Gala. Oh, Jennifer Gala, we we didn't give her a shout out. Is Jennifer here? She wasn't here earlier. Why not? She hangs out and says when she bounces, right? And let's see here. making sure I capture all your super chats. You guys are so generous. Thank you so much. Oh, here we go. Ben, you're next. Thank you, Ben, for the super chat. I am upgrading from a 55 in OLED E6. What? E6. I don't I think I still was watching Plasma during that time. Well, they were ending. Yeah. So, when the first That's when the E were um just a different design. Let's see. To a 55 in G5. You'll be very You'll be ridiculous. What do you think I will notice most? Okay. Motion processing,

43:06 upscaling. I mean, contrast should be similar, but the HDR impact from the additional brightness, it feels like the G5 will have better contrast. Well, the G5 is like five times as bright. I mean, the OLEDs back then were like SDR. It was SDR. It was for 100 nit contrast. Yeah. They look like plasmas back when you had when the Wow, you were way back there. Um, they didn't start getting bright until this to the eight or nine, C9, C8. They were really bright, but or bright for the time, but you're going to see a big difference in everything. And for Ben, I want to show Ben something real quick. Ben, did you have burnin too on that? That that's back when it was really hard for uh for for OLEDs. There was no HDR impact back then. Okay. So, Ben, this is for you since you have the G5 and I assume you're going to be in a semi right

43:54 room. this. So, we're in filmmaker mode and dynamic tone mapping is off, right? In a bright room, I recommend you take your dynamic tone mapping instead of using cinema, which I don't think does as good of a job. Turn on dynamic tone mapping in a bright room, and you'll see the difference here. So, it's off right now. Now, it's on. Look at that. Right. Yeah. The camera's clipping it now, but it's night and day. Yeah. So, let me turn down.

44:42 Ben, how much was Ben real quick? How much was that E6 back then? That's what Just for context, I bet you that E6 was expensive, right, Robert? Back then, 10 grand. The E-series was that was their off their gallery series of the day. And then to that point, let's let's choose another scene. Little bit of deep color here. So, in camera, the the W OLED tandem is going to look white just because of the nature of the camera sensor picking it up. And the others won't look as white just because of the camera. So, if you

45:27 see a magenta tint, it's cuz you're looking at cutielets, right? In camera though, in person, they're still not as white. And the key here is the G5 losing saturation in the flames and it's not. And this takes us to So we're back to off, right? It's accurate again. But yeah, definitely play with on off and you're going to love a TV. You'll love that pop. Though I would say out of the box, you're going to be much brighter anyway. Yeah. This is 4,000 nits, by the way. Yeah. Deep color. And so normally I'm going to pause here so you guys can see. Normally, we complain about W OLED losing some color in these bright scenes that's both bright and colorful. So, I'm going to lower the contrast. You guys

46:13 can compare the colors. And we compared the G4 to the G5. There were times like this content where the G lower the exposure, not lower the contrast where the G4 would would get a little white in the flames. Not enough where if you were by yourself, you would say, "Oh my god, I can't stand this." But cuz you would know the director's intent, but compared to the QLEDs, they would be more orange and red. It retains the color as good as the others in this concept. F4000 that's really great. And to be fair to W OLED fans on the G4 in this scene, they would not look identical. The G4 would have washed out yellows and oranges. It would be bright, but it would lose the color. So it had like white in the middle of the flame. Yes. And now with the G5, this is the difference. So primary RGB

46:59 OLED. Thank you LG for doing this. You've definitely upped the game and upped the relevance of primary RGB of of just W O that in general. The primary RGB tandem. That's such a long guy's got to think of a better name. They don't even have a name for it. That was that was Panasonic's name. Yeah, that's true. It's called tandem. It's called ultra booster. Someone said that we were misleading by saying RGB and that's what Panasonic called it. That well that's that's what LG display calls it. And that's what Rasmouth told us when uh when he showed us we I mean it's the it's kind of like Samsung misleading people. Primary RGB T primary RGB tandem four layer stack OLED. What did what did Samsung call it? RGB micro LED. It's not micro LED, right? So yeah, you know, brands will try to add a little bit of something

47:44 something. Can't wait to see that. I know Robert will have that immediately. Right. And but and thank you so much everyone for coming. Please click like if you haven't already. And if you have any questions alo about these TVs or any special deals, shipping, they ship all over the US, um taxree outside of New York. They pay the tax out um outside of New York themselves. Call Robert or Wendy or Leanne and uh Robert has other deals that he'll talk to you about off camera. So if you have any questions, please call the store during the week and they will take great care of you. Yep. And with that in mind, this is a good time since y'all are here for me to run a quick uh sponsored advertising. Thank you so much for making it possible for me to even keep

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50:01 upgrading. Oh, we just spoke to Ben. LTG Michael, thank you for the super chat. Your generosity is much appreciated, my friend. As all of you who are here watching us today. and click like so more people could jump on and say hello. I just returned the S95D. Motion interpolation is appalling. Motion artifacts. Jutter is bad. Should not need to fix it by setting jitter to 4 + 1. I find the QD to be hazy. Poor resolution. How is 82 action soccer G4 G5? Okay, so this is this is great. Emotion is so subjective. And Michael, do you mean that you like having soap opera or do you just want the jutdder to go away? Yeah, cuz some people are very sensitive to it, others are not. So to

50:49 me, you have to choose your poison. Are do you hate stutter or do you hate motion interpolation with artifacts, right? The setting the jutdder on the Samsung to four is or three or four, right? I'm I'm fine with either one. For me, it's the only way to eliminate stutter, but it does introduce a little bit of soap opera. Unfortunately, the motion artifacts are also there at four. You have to go even higher to get rid of it, but now you have too much soap opera. Sony has that best combination of everything to get rid of the stutter, but then at high motion settings that many people like, Sony doesn't do as well. And the G series, I think, has the best combination of both. So, for those

51:36 of you who like playing with motion on either side, anti-stutter, anti- soap, I think the G5 and G4, they they do a better job giving you settings that are a little bit more expansive. But I'm mostly an anti-stutter guy. I don't focus as much on quality high motion interpolation, but gamers do. And on the Samsung the gaming the game ocean plus which is very much motion interpolation. To me that's just genius how well they implemented that. They've been doing it longer with old leads. I mean they've been so for yeah Samsung I think is great for high motion interpolation where you max everything out. Slow panning. There's it's the slow pan static that they struggle with. Sony that's their specialty but it's the high motion interpolation gaming that they struggle with. I think LG kind of does

52:23 both well enough. So, I'd take the G5 if you are sensitive to motion. It gives you more settings to play with that work very well. Hopefully that helps. And next up, this is an interesting one because they want to make sure it's the same size. Malam, thank you for that super chat at the shootout which is happening on July 12th at all electronics. All the same size. All the same size and all calibrated and broken 65 inch. What do you think the professional filmmakers will choose? Okay. So, my understanding since I am not organizing the shootout, we're just commentators, right? We know what we love and we're not judges either, but we are directly involved in understanding what's happening so we can make sure our content matches what's happening. Dwayne

53:08 Davis will be handling the production this year completely to make sure that everything is perfect. 65 in. So, more importantly, will they all be the same size? Yes. Whether it's all 55, whether it's all 65, whatever it is, Dwayne wants to make sure that the judges are judging TVs that are the same and they'll have a reference monitor, multiple if it takes that to to make it easy for the judges to separate the differences between the TVs and what reference is and what will professional filmmakers choose. So, it's a collection of people. And this is something that, you know, I don't think you realize you open a can of worms here. There's a difference between a professional filmmaker. Oh, this I'm sorry. I have to lower this exposure. A cinematographer and a color grader and a calibrator.

53:56 They all have different specialties. And real quick, the reason why I'm lower exposure is so you can see the brightness difference when it's all white. What the G5, this is why hockey hockey fans. Yeah, it's night and day. And this is just what the G5 can do. I'm not doing anything. You guys notice we didn't change the settings. Yeah, there's no tone mapping making. It just right. It cannot deliver the brightness that Jennifer wants in this scene except for primary RGB OLED. And the MLA G4 can do it, but then you lose some of that red. The red here is preserved. It just looks the red is less saturated because it's so bright, right? But okay, back to your question. Uh, and judges, right? You don't want all filmmakers, and this is why the filmmakers only know one TV. That's a reference monitor. Unfortunately, they don't own any modern

54:43 TVs the way we do. They are not TV reviewers. So, when they're looking at a TV, a lot of them have old TVs. Yeah. A lot of them have are still using the Z9D from Sony or the, you know, C1 or the Sony A9G. And so, the judges will be a collection of individuals, all experts in their field, each looking for something different because on the one hand, you have the filmmakers. They know what the reference monitor looks like. And so they're just attuned to that. But then you will have calibrators who know what a TV should look like given the limitations and they know how close the TVs can get. There's nothing more you can do because they've calibrated TVs as a living. So you'll have filmmakers, calibrators, and TV reviewers. They know what they're looking for as a reviewer.

55:30 What is the impact that they think that they want to get from the TVs? How accurate is it? Because you still have the reference monitor. And then you will have what we call enthusiasts who love buying TVs. That's what they do. They love TVs. They I would argue that they may know as much about TVs as we do because they literally buy the next best thing after watching us and they but buy the latest thing every year and just, you know, give the old one to their friends or whatnot. And so it'll be a collection of different people from different walks of life. You have to have it that way, right? Because if you had all just filmmakers or we had cinematographers, they have different. It's really about who has the the eye for what is the most accurate. And I think this also neutralizes this, oh, they're all biased because filmmakers, they only love Sony, Sony Venice, Sony reference monitor, Sony TVs, right? This

56:17 is people who have all different types of TVs, right? Samsung's, Sony's, it doesn't matter. And so to that degree that it gives a collection of enthusiasts like you and then you will then have a score based on that I think that is a change that's for the positive. I like that a lot. So yeah. Yeah. And well we're not judges obviously if I'm talking G4 TV is a favorite TV like oh your G4 Yeah. G4 got beat up. But but Vincent agreed with you. Vincent said, "Well, Vin, well, Vincent, when I talked to Vincent about that, he said,"I" because I said to Vincent after a couple whisies. I said, "Why'd you choose?" You loosened him up. I said, "Why'd you choose?" It doesn't take long. He gets really He's happy. Um I said, "Why'd you guys choose the G4?" He goes, "I didn't choose the G4. It was a blind test." Yeah. And that's So, it

57:04 was uh I think he just people off the street, too. And nonprofessional interesting didn't win for accuracy, per se. It was just more of it was the quote the red and the G4 that B G5 the C. Yeah, the red and the G1. Yeah, the C2. Um, and also understand the quote unquote winner. Winner of what we're talking cinema accuracy to the reference monitor is a as a reminder. You're getting a TV winner. whoever it is, this is as close as you're going to get to what the movie studios see when they are grading their their movies, you're getting exactly what they're seeing if you get it calibrated and that's the end result in the correct room. In this bright room, you can forget it because now you have active on all this

57:50 craziness on. So, you have to remember the context, right? Hey, thank you for that super chat. Thank you guys for great content. Sorry for my question actually about TVs. It's fine. Should I get a Sonos Ultra plus the ERAS plus a sub or the Sony quad plus sub? Absolutely. The Sony quad plus sub. And this is why. And I I know a lot of Sony Sonos fans are out there. The Sony Quad Plus sub use case one only. Perfect immersion that matches what the creator, we're talking about the audio mixers now, what they intended for you to feel in a movie space. The Quad is designed from the ground up to be that. The Sonos, on the other hand, they have a couple of bosses to answer to. They want

58:37 music. They want whole house music. They want this. They want that. Their focus is not 100% movie immersion, translating 5.1 DTS Dolby into surround. That's not what they're intending. Sonos is the best at giving it to you throughout your home, your outside. The ecosystem is what Sonos is best at and they're unbeatable in that regard. But as far as home theater, the Quad, you know, like the Sonos does everything pretty well, but I think lacks home theater wise, even their home theater type stuff, the dynamic uh voices are hard, but the quad's excellent in a bar nine. I mean, so I would go for a dedicated home theater. If you want your whole house to have music, then you can't go wrong with the Sonos and the whole ecosystem, but the quad is definitely the the way to go for especially if you're matching it

59:22 with a Sony TV. I match it with any TV and it's it's great with the arc. The Sony quad goes with every TV. Yep. HD and you know throw in the sub. Now I will give Sonos the edge on the subw world for power because you get multiple subs. We've been talking to Sony. They're designing the ability to add more subs in the near future. But the Sonos Arc Ultra, it has the capacity to add multiple subs. So if it's more important to get that bass oomph, Sonos more bass. But if you want immersion and surround, I think the quad balances that better. But again, both are premium. And if you're already committed to the Sonos ecosystem, just add it. Just get the Sonos. Yeah, cuz I I think the Sony's is tuned for home theater versus Although they did have some pretty good music presets that they showed us in Japan.

1:00:09 Okay. This to me is a little drama for the day. I I got to find out what happened. Did you see that digital trends? I assume DT means digital trends. Copyright strike. Caleb raided let the battles begin. Yeah. I don't know how he would do that considering that unless he played a No, his face has been copyrighted. Didn't you know? Really? They copyrighted Caleb's face. No. Why not? What did Caleb say? They own everything I do. And so they own his face. Now I I might be tongue and cheek, but think about think about the algorithm. You should text Caleb and see what he says. What's up? Okay, so I'm talking algorithm. I don't know if digital trends did it intentionally. Let's give him the benefit of the doubt. How did you guys find that out? Was it on his channel or what? Maybe his channel disappeared. No, that would be

1:00:57 so think algorithm, right? If digital trends say, look, everything on my channel is protected. If you see anything on my channel that's being copied elsewhere, nail them. You know, let's let's call that. And with AI being what it is, they are looking at other channels who are lifting the content from digital trends and putting it on their own without permission. And Caleb's face, hold on. I can't in all sizes, right? Wait, does that mean I'm going to get a copyright strike from Digital Trends? Cuz his face is all over my last three videos. He was on my live stream. So if I get copyright strike, I'm going to shout and say hello. His channel is gone. His channel's gone. It's gone. And so I guess maybe things did not

1:01:42 happen in a way that we had hoped, which was because when you if you put in Caleb Dennison, it used to come up as digital trends and then Caleb rated was underneath it and now it's just uh w that would be heartless. Not to derail our live stream, but Caleb is Oh, here it is. Okay. Caleb is a friend. Right there it is. Okay. Everything is there. But his face is gone. His face is gone. Are his videos there? Any videos there? No, there is Caleb. Caleb, where is his videos? They're not there. There's no videos, right? No. No videos. Yeah. So, his at least his channel is still there. Oh, could you imagine that? So, no, we did not see it, but thank you. Uh Caleb is a community friend, and so I feel for him. He's a very good friend. Yeah, very good. and and it was supposed to they

1:02:30 were supposed to depart on a mutually friendly terms, but I think I'm going to give digital trans benefit of the doubt that it was an algorithm error and Caleb's face is not to be copyright protected. Yeah. I mean, but that's why but that means wait is my channel still up? Is my video still up? I have three of his faces on my videos. Is yours still Yeah. Wow. That would be terrible. That would be all inhumane if you did that. Well, that means everyone who brought Kilabot on an interview got copyright strike. Me uh the the hi-fi guys. Well, the the e acoustics one still left. Wow. Craziness. Well, we Well, we'll talk to Caleb and we'll let you guys. Imagine that. How are you? Hey, imagine. Very generous. Thank you so much. You are so generous. $50. Wow. Well, you know, she she was the one that recommended I put

1:03:17 on the the gloves after I've done the peeling and everything. Nearly passed out. She doesn't worry about you. Hey, you know, took years off my life. Will you guys get a 2025 TCL 98 inch x11k? We won't get it per se. Obviously, I don't want to buy a TV only to have to give it to someone cuz I don't hold on to TVs for more than 8 months. But I will find a way to visit TCL. Unfortunately, sideby sides are hard when it's that that large, right? Unless you have somebody standing in front of it the whole time, it all looks it's like Godzilla. Unless you have it next to a building, it doesn't look. So,

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