NEW PROOF Reveals Epstein DID NOT Unalive Himself | Julian Dorey

0:00 All the while I'm saying to Andy like he's asking me he's like so how are you feeling about this Julian and and and I would like I went from being like a jokester and having fun like in a good way where we're having good report getting good content there's two ends of the bed if we can pull that up again beef >> and you know Andy had all the all the bed sheets the orange bed sheets like to a tea what they had been in there and everything he had access to which was [ __ ] [ __ ] crazy, by the way. >> I mean, this is insane, dude. >> That he had access to all that stuff, you know. And we determined based on the government reports, they had said that he did the deed on the right side right

0:46 behind Andy right there. Can we pull that up? >> Yep. It's up. >> It's up. So, he did the deed on the right side right there. And there was some argument, I don't have the reports in front of me, where it's like, well, did he do it lower or higher? We looked at every possibility. And the most the possibility that a human being could get themselves to do without then having to fight the will of life would require Jeffrey Epstein in this case to jump in a way where he breaks his neck immediately so that he cannot fight back. And so the best way to do that based on the tools he had and how the cell was found was to basically use that

1:31 orange strand that you see right behind Bamante hanging from the ledge that was through a keyhole. Sit up on the edge of the bed up there. Tie it around his neck. Get into a crouch position and with that very small he had it down to the inch how long that thing was. with that very small strand be able to leap far enough to not hit his head on the bed because there were no contusions on the back of his head. That was a key part of the report. Meaning he would have had to jump out. >> Yeah. Wow. >> And not hit his head. >> Y. >> And so Andy and I did that, but he had a test dummy too, but that was exactly 6 foot two scale Jeffrey Epstein's size. I said I looked at Andy and I brought up the contusion part and I said, "Andy,

2:19 LeBron James couldn't make that jump." Like, look at look at the length of the of of the of the bed sheet. Look at where he's sitting. Even if he got, and this is a 60some year old man, even if he got down into a fully athletic position and then made the leap from like this form out and ahead, his head will whip back and it will hit >> 100% >> basically like a raised edge metal edge of the bed without a doubt. >> And Andy then, Dude, he was being so aggressive with the D. >> Yeah, dude. I was like that was cracking up. Yeah, but like you didn't see the tests when he was doing the tests. I was like they had a they had a cameraman. Can you put it Do we have camera five? We don't. But they had a cameraman in

3:06 the corner behind that wall right there. >> Yeah. >> And I was just standing there like looking at the cameraman while he's doing this like why does he look like he's done this a lot before with a [ __ ] body? He was playing. He was like, "So if I took it like this, just like watch him." And it's not like watching a [ __ ] you know, MMA fighter or a jiu-jitsu [ __ ] master doing something. It was It was like Yes. It was like watching someone who was getting ready to clean up a body. >> Jeez. >> And so I'm I'm like >> Yeah. Because Andy's career was interesting. It started off as a failure and then ended up in some interesting places if you know his story. But that's that's a separate issue for another day.

3:52 And so he went through every way and he's and and then he like sat on the edge of the bed and looked up at me and he's like, "Yeah, no, he couldn't have done that." And so then we went to the left side of the bed, which made no sense according to any report or what was found. But we said, "If they totally lied about everything and it was over there, how would he how would he have done it?" I don't even remember what we did there, but it wasn't even possible. It wasn't possible without him sitting on the ground. It wouldn't have made any sense. Nothing there would have made sense. So then he, this is when he says, "Let's walk out of here and let's review the reports." We go through the pancreas thing. We also between we had the DOJ manual open and the FBI manual the the

4:39 official reports of Jeffrey Epstein's death open and there were discrepancies between the two everywhere. I'm not even going to list them out. I can't even remember all of them. We lost count. I I want to say like photographic memories saying it was like page 76 to 79 of the FBI report had like this isn't like that. This isn't like that. Like looking over back of the DOJ this isn't like that. This is We're sitting there and we were dumbfounded looking at each other. All the while I'm saying to Andy like he's asking me he's like, "So, how are you feeling about this, Julian?" And and and I would like I went from being like a jokester and having fun like in a good way where we're having good report, getting good content to getting more and more speechless and reserved, which most

5:25 of the tape you see of me is when I was very speechless and reserved. none of the like excited moments, which there were a lot, really made the cut. >> So, I was getting more like, "What the fuck?" >> And and he's asking me again like, "How I'm feeling?" And >> I'm turning to Andy and I'm and I'm looking back at the cameraman, looking at the camera. I'm looking at Andy and I'm like, "You are are you suggesting what I think you're s like you Andy Bamante, Mr. No conspiracies ever exist. Everything's AAM's razor. It's all just stupidity. You know, the [ __ ] Santa Claus isn't real. Are you suggesting that Jeffrey Epstein

6:11 is still alive? And he said something along the lines to me of saying, "I'm suggesting that I'm looking at the reports and I'm very perplexed. It doesn't add up to me." Now my head's going back all the way to our very first recording. I remember episode 97. I want to say it's like 45 minutes into it. This is back in April 2022. We recorded this. It came out at the beginning of May 2022. Andy and this is before I knew the actual backstory of his career. So, we were talking about things that they did without me also knowing like some of the things he literally did in a very foreign place that might rhyme with Schmina, you know, it might

7:00 just what I've heard. >> But, you know, he talked about exfiltrations and how easy like I I remember him being like, "Oh, yeah." You know, sometime listen sometimes if you're burned, you know, they'll just they'll there's ways there's multiple ways to do it. One of the ways he discussed was like taking people out in a canister and giving them MREs and they just live in a [ __ ] tanker truck unit for like 4 days. An MRE is, you know, all the military people out there listening, you guys know exactly what it is, but it's like, you know, set up >> little meal plans, if you will. >> Packet of sustenance. That's what it is. >> Hey, I was trying to, you know, talk it up a little. >> No, I'm sure the military guys will back me up on that. Yeah, it's like trauma. But I'm starting to think about this is

7:45 I'm like, "All right, if they got him out, how did they do it?" And it was around this point where Andy says to me, "What if I told you that the prison, the official Bureau of Prisons layout of the units, >> like the architecture?" >> The architecture, the official report that I have right here of the actual MCC or whatever it's called, >> like the straightup blueprints. >> Yes. And he opens it up to that page. What if I told you that it's wrong for one cell in particularly? >> No [ __ ] way. >> And I was and literally I was like I was like Ben Affleck in the town when they see the cop after that whole chase and the cop's just like looking right at him and he's like,

8:32 "Are you going to do it?" Like I literally looked at him like that and he goes, "Let's go back to the cell." So again, de if if you could pull this up, >> you can see that there is a full corner of this cell. So the door is but is directly behind my back and the corner of the cell makes an indented L in the room. It's an air. And what Andy discovered is that it was a vent. There's an air duct. There's effectively an 8x4 room on the other side of that. Wow. >> That you can get into and you cannot see. That's why that was that funny meme from the from the show. I'll pull it up

9:17 right here on my phone so you can see it. I put this on Instagram, but there's a hilarious meme where he had me go stand looking through the prison door like this and he took the dummy like he was choking it behind the L to demonstrate. He was like, "Julian, can you see me?" And I'm like, "Nope." >> So, I'm staring through the door. I put this up on Instagram cuz someone needs to make a [ __ ] meme out of this. But this is what Can you see it, De? >> Yeah. >> This is what it looked like. You see him shaking it? >> Yeah. >> Right. And he's like, I could be killing them right here and you would not know. So, I'm looking through and I cannot see behind that L. Meaning if a security guard, those people were [ __ ] out to lunch. But if they were standing at the door, >> they literally wouldn't be able to tell if anything, whether it's someone killing him or someone putting them in

10:04 the vent, putting a new person in there, a body double or whatever it is, >> they wouldn't be able to see it on that end. He then walked through with me, and this is I had a full-blown redux redux to episode 97 during this. He he walked through exactly a 72-hour period how Jeffrey Epstein, if it needed to be that long, would survive in there and then proceeded to very nonchalantly be like 72 hour? We wouldn't need 72 hours. He said, "I've determined this mission to get him out of this prison is very easy. It could have been done with three people, one of whom is an inmate inmate on the take. >> Three people." And then he walked me through like a

10:50 like a serial killer walking through. It's going to sound so bad, but whatever. Like a serial killer walking through exactly how something so crazy and evil is done. He was like, "Step one, I don't even remember it. Laundry cart. This guy, you get this type of prisoner right over there. It's approximately 15 minutes after X, Y, or Z. I don't remember the details what it was. You have one guy outside who's working with some sort of you know foreign nation nations. I think he said you know cuz he's like this is a that was the other thing Andy was going to like this is this you know the guy worked with Israel and seems pretty

11:37 confident on that. I obviously agree. Seems to shy away from the CIA's guilt in the matter. I disagree with him on that part. >> You know, true company, >> zero ties to the CIA. >> Z I don't want to say Andy said zero. It's just that was a part of the conversation that conveniently would be not brought up. But there's also other places because what Andy seems to be getting with is that, you know, the whole elite kind of cabal of all different psychos around the world, like Jeffrey Epstein was wired into that. And as a side note, like I said, this is the day

12:23 the Iran war was breaking out. So when we first got in there and we're sitting in in the back room before we started and I were just, you know, catching up, whatever, I looked at him. I'm like, dude, what the [ __ ] And he's like, I know, man. I know. He's like, I saw it coming, but it's [ __ ] up. Like that's that's what he said. I'm like, no [ __ ] Sherlock. But I'm like, what is happening here? This is the Ayatollah wasn't dead for another four hours of >> I was going to say maybe his ghost woke you up in the middle of the night, but he wasn't dead yet. >> I don't know, bro. But no, it wasn't. the Ayatollah. We found out like halfway through the shoot I was eating like a [ __ ] Quest bar. I'm like, "Andy, they whacked the Ayatollah." He's like, "Yeah, it sounds about right." You know? It was like It was like really surreal. But I I forget how it came up, but we're

13:10 talking about the war and I'm just like beside myself and I'm like, "Who's this for, man? This is not in our interest. You know it and I know it." And he goes, "No, it's not." And then Andy in prototypical Andy fashion said, and he said it better than that. He has such a way with words like it's so annoying like how perfectly he'll put something that you don't want to hear that also sometimes is total propaganda, but other times it's like, yeah, I that's actually right. >> You cooked. >> He said, "Yeah, that the two wildest days at CIA are the day you learn how the world really works and the day you learn how how you can operate within it at CIA." M >> and then he goes that first day is a really tough day. >> And he was talking about like the

13:55 Rockefellers and [ __ ] in the context and like the Rothschilds in the context of the conversation and basically confirming to me that >> these ideas that like they're pulling some strings and the intelligence is just a [ __ ] tool of it. Uh that's what Andy Bamante was saying this like again Mr. Langley himself, which makes me think a little bit. I I don't know whether I'm proud of him or suspicious. Maybe both, but you know, we're having that conversation off camera about the context of a real world event going on and then come back on camera here where he's talking about who would be interested in getting him out. To me, that's what he was alluding to.

14:40 You know, all these different people. It's not one or two, it's all of them. And he was just remarking to me how easy it would be. That's what stuck with me. And I I was having like I've never thought the guy killed himself. I Epstein. I always had to leave a possibility out there, you know, 01% that maybe he did. But I've always been on record the guy was whacked. I really hadn't been a oh, he's still alive guy. I've thought about it before. I've thought about it. >> You have to. I've thought about it. It's >> fun. >> But yeah, it's fun. But I was like, nah. >> You know, they would change the ear >> in the picture >> to say, look, it doesn't match his ear

15:27 and it would be visually changed, stuff like that. And I'm like, ah. But then a week before this, John Kuryaku and I had recorded and John believed he had killed himself. And John will change his opinion when he has better evidence. I'm I I still have to talk to him about everything we looked at here. But, you know, obviously a lot of people disagree with that take. That said, it was the intro to episode 388 where after he had said that part, I brought up the idea of like if you wanted to exfiltrate someone out of there, how would you do it? and he said, "I'd have a body that everyone can see." >> And went through the whole thing and and like made it sound so easy like, "Yeah, of course they can do body doubles and [ __ ] like that." And so now I'm thinking about that,

16:12 >> which by the way, the Discovery Channel team put that in the episode. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> They put a bunch of Kiryaku stuff in there, including that clip >> from our podcast. >> And Andy was probably like, >> "No, I think I think Andy was Andy's not like that." Like Andy's like, "Hey, whatever you need for content, baby." like he's >> he's that I respect that a lot about him. He doesn't care like when people are shredding him about stuff, he's like whatever, you know. And obviously in the Danny Jones podcast, which >> with Kuryaku and Andy, which was recorded back in August 2024, it's an amazing podcast by the way. >> You know what's what's wild? I've said this before on camera on these episodes, 80 to 85% of it, John and Andy like agree with each other, which was nuts.

16:58 And then in the second hour, there's like a period where Andy tries to go at John and like, you know, John got him. He just straight up. And Andy's points, what I've said before is I don't think Andy actually believes that the things he was literally saying to John because I look at like how Andy lives his life and the things he does and I'm like, he does like the opposite of that. And that's where it's like, ah, he's just representing Langley or whatever. But, you know, like and I think Andy was like, cuz we were talking about the Kiryaku podcast when we were out there. It was like a [ __ ] great podcast, you know, like he he had seen it. So, I think he probably wanted some of that in there because the context >> was very relevant >> for what we were talking about with that stuff. So, >> I was teasing.

17:43 >> It worked. I know. It is funny though. More on Kurt Mezer in a minute, but but I just was having a total because again, I'm filming with a TV crew, which I'm already like a little the the crew was [ __ ] awesome, like I said, but you're still like skeptical of how this is going to come out. And I don't want to be an idiot, but I'm like reacting live and I'm just I was speechless. I had nothing. I'm like, Andy, this guy's [ __ ] alive, isn't he? And he's like, "That's why I brought you here. I'm investigating. I don't know." But everything Andy's pointing to is like, "Yeah, he's alive." So the last on the show that didn't come

18:32 up till the last five minute segment. And this is where Andy hedged. This is this is where he hedged. I believe and I can't speak for Andy Booamonte because like he has not said this confirmed verbally to me. I believe Andy believes they got him out. But when he went to do the final part of the show like the last minute where he's like at CIA they teach us to work on a scale from it's a it's real terminology. I don't remember what it was but effectively like definitely not true or definitely true and everything in between. He goes, "I can't rule out the possibility that Jeffrey Epstein isn't alive, but I would score

19:18 it as not probable." So, not impossible, but not probable. I believe that Andy's report is actually probable. That's just my editorial. Take that as you will. I am definitely on the probable side. I shouldn't say I'm 100%. I think that was, and that didn't make the cut. I think at some point in the final segment where he and I were just talking for an hour about it on camera, I think I did say something like, "Holy [ __ ] like he's definitely alive cuz I'm like shocked." I feel pretty strongly that he probably is. >> Mhm. >> And I did not feel that way walking in there. Thank you guys for watching the episode. If you haven't already, please hit that subscribe button and smash that

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