Rep. Curt Weldon: It’s Time to Finally Tell the Truth About 9-11

0:00 we recorded the interview you're about to watch five days ago and I've been thinking about it ever since it's with a former congressman from Pennsylvania called Kurt Weldon kurt Weldon was a very significant figure in Washington 20 years ago he was not some obscure backbencher he was one of the most powerful Republicans in the Congress about to take over the Armed Services Committee until he asked questions about the official story on 9/11 at which point the Bush administration sent the FBI to his daughter's house destroyed her life never charged her with a crime and effectively got Curt Weldon bounced out of Congress i haven't talked to him in 20 years i didn't know exactly what to expect but this conversation the one you're about to see raises far more questions than I ever anticipated this is not a crazy person these are not crazy questions he makes no claims he

0:48 doesn't have personal firsthand evidence of when it ended I asked him "How many other officials who were in and around Washington during 9/11 have similar questions?" And he said to me "As far as I know all of them," and he's still in touch with a lot of those people after this conversation which again we've been thinking about ever since I thought it might be time to look a little more deeply into the 9/11 Commission report was it accurate 911 changed the United States forever those of us who remember it who live through it can tell you this was a different country afterward completely different and not a better country and so there is no more significant historical event in the lifetimes of any living American than 9/11 and the fact that there are still outstanding questions about what exactly

1:34 happened and why is troubling up until this point most of the people who've addressed these questions are either crazy or seem slightly crazy now is the time for a sober look not a wildeyed speculative look but an honest look and honest conversations with people who participated in the response to that day government officials and so we're going to do that we are planning right now a multi-part documentary series on 9/11 and we hope to bring that to you as soon as we possibly can and now former Congressman Kurt Weldon congressman thank you so much for doing this i haven't seen you in 20 years i one of the last times I thought about you was right around 2006 and I you had been a frequent guest on the show that I was hosting then and I

2:20 read that the FBI had raided your daughter's house and I thought man I was like Kerwwell then I guess he's corrupt and then I heard never heard anything about it and then you lost that election um to a guy who I always thought was kind of repulsive and then probably 15 years passed and I thought to myself wait a second Kurt Weldon was the only Republican I'm aware of who criticized the US response the intel ay's response to 9/11 who wrote a book blaming elements of the US government for allowing 911 to happen and then covering it up and then right on the cusp of becoming tell me if I'm getting this wrong chairman of the armed services committee the FBI raids your daughter's house and you lose an election in which your opponent has funding from all over the United States never no one's ever heard of this guy he's got more money

3:07 and you're out of Congress and I began to think maybe this was a setup so I thought I would ask you well it definitely was and you're always one of my heroes i enjoyed your show uh with Paul Begala and uh when I did Hannah years ago all the others and enjoyed and and I was always I took my work very seriously i'm a teacher by profession youngest of nine kids firefighter as a volunteer uh all my life and that's my devotion even to this day i don't get any money for it but it's what I'm committed to and why I care about 911 so much um I was at 911 i was not 911 i was at the trade center in 93 at the invitation of fire commissioner Howard Schaefer to go up there and learn about what had occurred the first time they attacked us and they introduced me to a young fire officer former Marine five

3:53 kids named Ray Downey he became one of my best friends ray told me what he thought we should do uh I took his advice seriously and wrote the legislation to create the Gilmore Commission the Gilmore Commission was chaired by Virginia Governor Jim Gilmore a man of integrity i had him on a podcast last September for 20 minutes and the Gilmore Commission's recommendations were largely what the 9/11 Commission took credit for after the fact one of those recommendations was to have a fusion center of intelligence be put together at the time I was doing this on behalf of the firefighters to deal with disasters i was in the position to oversee the funding as the chairman of all military research and technology funding about $180 billion the services were building information dominant centers the armies

4:41 was at Fort Belvoir and I would get down there regularly and meet with them and we became good friends um I didn't bother getting ready into the program i didn't need to but I knew what they were using with new software like Starlight Inspires and Fusion and data mining and analysis and and link analysis this is going to be important to prevent what happened in 93 so I supported which was the first bombing of the world first bombing and as a result um I went to John Hamry deputy secretary of defense under Clinton and I said John you have to go see what they're doing down there he did he called me said you're right Mr chairman and by the way John Hamry had endorsed me for chairman of the committee in 2000 as did as did um um Rumsfeld this is before 911 obviously both endorsed me publicly had their

5:26 letters and uh he said "But you've got to convince the CIA and the FBI to let us use their raw data because there are 33 classified systems and if they don't allow us to use their data this won't succeed." On November the 4th of 1999 in my office in the Rayburn building I had John Hamry deputy secretary of defense i had the deputy director of the FBI and I had their names and the deputy director of the CIA and we talked about the Noah National Operation Analysis Hub Policymaker and War Fighters tool to deal with emerging transnational terrorist threats the Fusion Center henry said "We need this i I'll manage it." I said "I'll get it funded." The FBI said "Great we're all in." And the CIA said "We don't want it we're not supporting it we're doing something called CI21 on our own." I spent two

6:13 years traveling around the country giving speeches at intelligence forums calling for a fusion center i put language in two successive defense bills calling for a fusion center 911 happens i get frantic calls from four of those professional staffers at the Able Danger team which I later learned was the name of this group at Fort Belvoir we have to see you right away Mr chairman scott Philpot Anapapolis grad Navy career uh officer commander of four ships pleading with me to meet Tony Schaefer Lieutenant Colonel Bronstar recipient spy for the military eileen Pricer Lieutenant um Air Force career intelligence officer expert on computers and Air Kleinmith i met

6:58 with each of them privately they all told me the same story and they rolled out the charts that I just showed you those charts I will make public now because they're not classified i showed them when I testified before the Senate hearing we identified every cell of Al Qaeda in the world the year before 9/11 we identified the New York cell uh a year before 9/11 we knew there was going to be a problem the Able Danger team tried to go to the FBI and Justice Department three times we have the names all three times they were stopped we have the names of the person in the FBI that was told to deny the meetings they were not allowed to transfer the information that information when I came out with my book Louisie Free former FBI director wrote in an op-ed in the Wall

7:44 Street Journal and said on Good Morning America could have prevented 9/11 from happening that's not me saying that that's Louis Free and General Keith Lambert our general in charge of special operations on horseback was asked in this award-winning book became a movie on page 27 "General what were your thoughts when 9/11 happened?" And he said "Within seconds I knew who had done the attack and I knew it involved Muhammad Ada." Uh thirdly after this all broke and I came out with my book criticizing the agency and started really going crazy protecting these brave heroes that were being abused by defense intelligence the inspector general for the Pentagon files a whistleblower paper i have a copy of it i'll give it to you

8:30 his name is John Crane he asked for protection because his bosses in DIA refused to allow him to become a whistleblower when he told them that he was told to lie to the Congress he was told to misinform the Congress i have that in writing Tucker the 9/11 Commission is a cover up 1,000% cover up zelico was the lead of the coverup philip Zelikau was the Philip Zelico he was handpicked by Condisa Rice when when Tony Schaefer met Zelico over in Afghanistan because Zelico took a team through to see if there were soldiers who had maybe encountered some information about 9/11 in advance tony Schaefer had been back deployed in Afghanistan at the time so he told his commanding officer I should talk to them

9:16 because I was a part of a special team he met with Zelico they exchanged business cards and Kabul and Zelico said to him "Lieutenant Colonel you've got to see me as soon as you get back to America it's very important." When Tony went back to the states they had shut down his office locked his office secured all his files and they then worked to destroy his personal uh reputation they tried to destroy his career i went to the floor and did a 1-hour special order calling it a scandal bigger than Watergate you can watch the footage it's available online i said "This is outrageous that the Defense Intelligence Agency is screwing a lieutenant colonel because he's telling the truth about what he was told to talk about when he came back from

10:01 Afghanistan tony Schaefer then went to work in the reserves because he had been basically harassed by the regular army because of what Zelico did so so I just want to back up a couple steps so you're saying what others have said before which is that elements of the US government worked really really hard to hide the fact that they could have prevented 9/11 that they had all the relevant information and for whatever reason ignored it but motive really matters here do you believe that there were people in the US government who made a bunch of mistakes or were too territorial and didn't share information with other agencies therefore 911 happened which is basically the conclusion of the 911 report I think or do you believe that there were people in the US government who knew it was going

10:46 to happen and allowed it to happen on purpose well first of all the 911 report has no credibility i don't believe anything that is in that that's a bunch of garbage um it's a lot of paper that has no substance um and I tend not to want to speculate on things that I can't prove 100% myself or I'm not willing to take a polygraph what I can tell you unequivocally is there was a cover up and before I answer your question I would state one more fact tony Schaefer got approval from his commanding general after this all whole thing happened to write his memoirs his memoirs are called Darkheart so he wrote the book he had a publisher the publisher he went to his commanding general to review the book as his protocol his commanding general said "Fine Tony there's nothing there that's a problem publish it." Tony publishes the book our deep state finds out he's

11:33 publishing the book a cease and desist order is issued against the publisher stop publishing the book it's too late our government our government buys all 10,000 copies of the first edition of Darkheart with taxpayer money and they destroy them so I asked Tony on a show last September as I've done many times Tony you have the original version of the book right yes here it is Congressman you have the redacted version right yes here it is what did they want out of your book that was so sensitive what secret information were you giving Tony what classified information did your boss not see he said "Congressman the only thing they wanted out of my book was the fact that I named Zelical and that I had briefed

12:20 him in advance that Tucker is treason that means our agencies our agencies use their position not for something involving our national security but for involving a a cover up of a person's identity who was publicly approved by the Congress of the United States appointed by the security adviser to President Bush it's a massive cover up um at what point following 911 um since I just want to restate you served in Congress for about 20 years I think yep and you really were at the heart of these question national security questions in the Congress you were about to become chairman of services so you're at the top of the pyramid for for

13:06 receiving relevant intelligence at what point you weren't just some random guy at all at what point after 9/11 the attacks of that day did you realize there's something bad going on here well it it started before 911 when I realized that the intelligence I was getting as the vice chairman of the committee was not really solid intelligence i would get better information from Bill Girtz a reporter that you know coming to me with anonymous sources leaking to him yes about intel matters and I would then go to the CIA and say "Why am I getting this information from a reporter that I know you're leaking from classified sources that I'm not getting as a member of Congress who's the vice chairman of the defense committee are you playing games with me?" And they wouldn't answer

13:52 that and that's what they do they play games by manipulating the media to put out a narrative and then we have to deal with that narrative so Tucker what I did there's a group in Washington that was known as the cockroaches there are group of people that work for the intelligence agencies that get along socially and I knew them all they trusted me i formed a loosen network of about 15 or 20 we met for breakfast every week in the members dining room in the capital and they would feed me raw data they would feed me raw data then I would go to the classified briefings using that raw data and I would ask questions of the CIA in front of the entire committee and in many cases I was the acting chairman because the the chairman wasn't there so here I am the acting chairman of the entire committee of armed services that fully embarrassed the uh the

14:38 intelligence agencies and I'll get into that when we talk about the 9/11 information uh and post 911 where they put bin Laden the point is that the agency plays games with Congress the Congress thinks it's getting good information and it's not yes the agency wants members fighting with each other over stupid things so they can do what they want and that's not all well there are good people in the agencies that I worked with and I would go to go to war over but there are some scumbags i know those scumbags at the appropriate time I'll name those scumbags who have made millions and millions of dollars and are making millions and millions of dollars today they're making it in Ukraine they're making it around the world because of context they established and all that ties back to their positions that they got supposedly working

15:24 intelligence for the US that's not what this country is all about and you asked about my daughter so give us the timeline so you um 911 happens you keep ascending in Congress and you really and I remember this well cuz I interviewed you on these topics at the time 20 years ago when your book came out um and you start saying "Wait a second the US government really blew this there are people who knew this was happening was going to happen and for whatever reason didn't stop it." And you're really the only Republican who's saying this and then 2006 you're up for re-election it's an even year of course and and you're from your district in Pennsylvania after 20 years and out of nowhere the FBI raids your daughter's house and we're all told it's because she's corrupt you're corrupt etc etc and

16:11 then you lose and we kind of lose track of you and Washington goes on as it does and no one talks about 9/11 again i think that's fair to say i mean I was there i remember when all this happened though you didn't cover it at all i didn't put it together in my head at all until about a year ago i was thinking about this in the shower whatever happened to Kurt Weldon and his daughter so I go on the internet i'm like is Kurt Weldon's daughter in prison cuz she's so corrupt like never talked to so So what happened so here's what happened 2006 in in in 1999 and 2000 they wanted me to run for chairman of the committee jump over four or five members which committee the armed services committee but in Congress the protocol is you wait a few times so I have letters which I can show you Tucker from Donald Rumsfeld um endorsing me to become chairman of the Armed Services Committee in 2000 yes i have a letter from um from Deputy

16:58 Secretary of Defense John Henry endorsing me to become chairman of the committee in 2000 dozens and dozens of letters then 911 happens i felt personally responsible because I knew that we could have prevented it by the information that the Able Danger team established by General Hugh Shelton had gathered and tried to transfer three times and were blocked so I said "Uh-uh i got I owe this to Ray Downey i'm wearing his jacket today i owe this to the firefighters in New York and around the country to get to the truth if it's the last thing I do and I owe it to all those soldiers that we're now sending overseas." That's right so what I did Tucker I supported George Bush when he said we're going to send our troops over to Afghanistan he made those heroic

17:43 comments about we're going to get them i took that as a patriotic American said yes we're going to get them but I was worried about what the Afghans might do as they did the Russian troops when they were in Afghanistan so Tucker with Al San Antoni whom you know y and two other members of Congress I privately without the knowledge of our government or the CIA I went to uh Paris we met with King Zahir Sha the king of Afghanistan who was living in exile with his family in Paris we met with him to convince him to go back to Kabal to convene a lawyer of all the tribes to to convince them to accept the American troops before they went in so it wouldn't be like they did with Russia king Zahir Sha agreed to that i'll give you the photographs

18:30 Tucker and I had two members of Congress and Al Santoi with me decorated Vietnam veteran zahir Sha went back i did all I could to protect our American troops not the CIA our troops then I find out my intel team those 20 people that were feeding me raw data give me data within months after 9/11 that Bin Laden's been cited in a town called Leiz i have nowhere no idea where Leiz is so I go up Pennsylvania Avenue to a bookstore and buy a map i just gave you the map here today Tucker you can show it and I found Leiz it's not in Afghanistan it's not in Pakistan it's in Iran in an area called Baluchistan so I go to the next

19:15 classified briefing for the full committee now I'm the vice chairman of the full committee there are 60 members i'm the acting chairman at this time so I said to the CIA I have information of Bin Laden's in Lead this is their response to me mr chairman we've heard similar reports we can either confirm or deny them i was in shock i was in shock we're sending kids to die in Afghanistan and we can't confirm or deny whether or not bin Laden's in Leadiz three months go by i'm still supporting the president my intel team comes back to me and say "Kurt he's being treated at a military hospital outside of Tran." I go back to the classified briefing and I ask the question in front

20:00 of the full committee and the answer from the CIA is "Mr chairman we've heard similar reports who can either confirm or deny that Bin Laden is being treated at a military hospital outside of Tran while we're sending kids to die in Afghanistan i said "This is outrageous." And then Tucker I get a call from Jack Murtha the most respected Democrat in the House former Marine who I work with closely and he says to me "I want you to meet with Ron Clink Democrat from Pittsburgh." And Ron Clink's still alive he'll verify this Tucker jack's dead but Ron's alive he said "Jack has a person who used to work for the agency that has information about Iran and you investigate this kind of stuff kurt will you meet with him?" I said "Sure." Ron

20:46 Clink comes to my office and brings this very tall man who's a former person from um the the Swedish area but he's a US citizen and I said "How can I help you?" You know Congressman Mirthth asked me to help ron Clink wants me to help he said "Congressman I want you to help me get into Iran." I said 'Wh do you want to go to Iran?' He said ' That's where Bin Laden is i said 'Wh would you tell me that Bin Laden's in Iran he said I was a knock for the agency do you know what a knock is yeah nonofficial cover that's right he said "I was a knock for the agency and I worked that area and my friends are seeing Bin Laden in Iran if you help me get to Tran I'll leave my identity there i'll get a piece of him dead or alive and I'll bring it back at the time there was a $25 million

21:32 reward for Bin Laden i said "I can't help you right now because I'm in a battle over this followup to 9/11." Then I get another call Tucker from the Interior Department totally separate they want to bring in their top birdman their bird expert i didn't think that was unusual because I was the Republican on the Migratory Bird Commission the Migratory Bird Commission no there was like oversees all the flyways for all the refugees up and down the coast i was a Republican john duck hunters like me thank you by the way john John Dingle was a Democrat of course I've duck hunted with him yeah two senators and three cabinet members so I figure they want to talk about birds i'm on the bird commission i'll meet with them so this Interior Department bird expert brings in a US citizen from Maine who's a seek

22:19 but he's a US citizen very wealthy family and he's got two falcons on his shoulders million-dollar birds with the blinders on beautiful into my office i said "Good boy they're gorgeous how can I be?" He said "Well Congressman I've devoted my life to falcons." He said "I helped write the UN protection treaties on falconry." He said "I trained all the children of the royal families in the sport of falconry." Yes because that's their sport he said "They all know me they all trust me they all in the Arab world it's huge." Yes yes he said "So and I want to help the country and there's a reward for Bin Laden." I said 'Ye I know that.' He said 'I want you to help me go to Iran.' I said 'Why do you want to go to Iran now he knows nothing about anything else I'm doing my my falconers are seeing Bin Laden's birds flying in

23:04 Iran you help me go to Iran they'll accept me there because they know me i'll tag his birds and I'll take the US to exactly where he is that's four four full source identities that Bin Laden was exactly where my intel people said he was over the course of time Tucker I developed 10 silver bullets they wanted to do a movie about me after they took me out and I'll get to when they took me out i got a call from Michael Shawyer michael was career CIA after I was taken out of office he called my home he said "Congressman you remember me?" I said "Vaguely Michael." He said "Well I was the chairman of the Bin Laden task force in the CIA and these people that you've that have met with you have shown me documents I never saw when I was working in the agency and

23:51 I was the Bin Laden task force director." He said "We want you to work with us we want you to be involved in a movie we're doing." I said "Michael after what they did to my family I can't do it right now." I hung up the phone i get a call from General McCannernney about three months later tom McCannernney he said "Congressman you remember?" I said "Yes General I remember you." He said "I'd like I'd like you to work with us Congressman i'm working with Michael Shawyer and and the Falconer and we want you to be." I said "I'm not getting involved after what they did to my family." They all had the same story Tucker so what was it happening in 2006 all my elections were landslides it's one of the saddest things about this country the country is getting sicker despite all of our wealth and technology Americans aren't doing well overall obesity heart disease autoimmune conditions all kinds of

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26:09 so-called axis of evil at the time people were talking about invading Iran then um why would the Bush administration hide the fact that it wasn't the Bush administration huh let me explain to you this is what Trump needs to understand um it started under Clinton when the Clinton administration Bill and Hillary Clinton who I have no respect for were allowed to be themselves to be used so they could make money tens of millions of dollars hundreds of millions of dollars because they allowed people unscrupulous people to control the agenda in Russia and around the world and you've been going after some of this involving Russia i can give you dozens of hard examples i believe it we've

26:54 talked about this off camera but I just want to get to continued who was hiding the fact that Bin Laden was in Iran and why okay it continued under um Bush Jr yep uh and um as I said up until 2000 they wanted me to be chairman all of a sudden when I started questioning 9/11 all of a sudden the Bush people said "Whoa." Yeah I bet john Cenounu after I was out of office who I had a lot of respect for was Bush's smart man i was in his office and he they said this to me he said "You know Congressman you were a great member everyone respected you but you made one fundamental mistake." I said "What was that John?" He said "When you come to this city you're either on one rail or the other rail and you went down the middle and took on both rails." I said "Well John I didn't

27:41 pledge allegiance to the Republican party." Yeah i pledge allegiance to the Constitution you guys were ecstatic when I took on the Clintons when I took on Sandy Burgerer when I took on the scumbags and what they did with China and Russia you were ecstatic but then when I saw things happening at 9/11 all of us he said "Well that's why you're not here." I said "You know what John so be it it's not the end of my life and one day I'll tell the story John one day I'll tell the story because that's what America needs to hear any members of Congress who don't become duped by scumbags in the intelligence agency making money for themselves and you know what Tucker i challenge them i'll name them and I'll give their dollar amounts of where they're making money today in the countries that we're at war with they care about themselves and their

28:27 power they don't care about the lives of the kids that we send to war i saw it in Libya i saw it in North Korea i led delegations that were bipartisan to all of those places they took it out on my daughter so I I just want to get one more time to the question of why who was hiding the fact that Bin Laden was actually in Iran our intelligence agencies they they have plausible deniability in the end I have 10 silver bullets including two royal family members from two different royal families from two different countries including in the end the person that was in the room who was a knock for our government for 50 years he's not from the US he's become a friend of mine he's been to my home we've met dozens of times and on one of my trips to the

29:13 Middle East he said to me you know he calls you my my dear you were right i said about what he said about a lot of things but you're right about Bin Laden i said what do you mean he said well he was placed in Iran in Baluchistan he said I said well he said I said you know he said yes I know that he said I was in the room when the deal was cut so the US has plausible deniability that they weren't in the room was the point to get to Iraq the point was to um the the point was to manipulate to get our troops committed to go over to fight the battles in Afghanistan Iraq and that whole region of the world yes and they had to have the justification to do that i believe it but in the end when 5 years ago and even Trump

30:01 doesn't know this I'm sure we killed someone that Trump took great credit for and I applaud him for it and he said we killed this guy Sulmani who that's right Sulammani was the guy the deal was cut with the deal was not cut with the Iranian government and we need to understand that and this is the heart of what we have to get to the Iranian people are not our enemy I wrote this book in 2005 Five countdown to tear it's all about Iran it says that the people of Iran are not our enemy and this book was endorsed by Jim Wolsey with a three-page letter former CIA director former CI director this book was endorsed by Al Caravelli Jack Caravelli Gore CIA adviser they both endorsed my book the book was so popular that the people of Iran

30:46 published it in Farsy there it is and they published the book without my approval they published my book it became a bestseller in Iran because it said "You're not the enemy of the American people." Here's what happened Tucker when the Sha was in power think back we were best friends with Iran of course our intelligence people trained the Iranian intelligence people we trained them they were our people when the radical Ayatollah and the Mullas took over Iran they did not bring in a new intelligence service they did not change the agency the IRG stayed the same the deal to place Bin Laden in Iran wasn't cut with the Iranian government it was cut with Sulammani and that's why we killed him our intelligence agency has tentacles around the world and they're

31:33 not answering to anybody and that's the problem right now that's the problem Trump has yeah he can cut off the security clearance of 51 but those that network extends far and wide around the world and they can play all the games they want in Ukraine in other countries and until we go after that this is not going to stop that's consistent all consistent with what I've seen i would say I figure that's not a crazy statement that's the challenge that Trump has right now i still think he's at risk last May I went on a TV show locally in the Philadelphia area and I said "My greatest challenge is they're going to try to take Trump out." A month later they they did the attack you know it goes back to when Trump first when I kept quiet because I couldn't trust any of the administrations after I left including the Bush administration cuz Bush wasn't in control and I can give

32:19 you example after example of Bush not being in control i knew who was in control when Trump was going in I met with Rudy Giuliani i had two private dinners with him up in New York i had not known Rudy that well i said "Rudy this is what's going to happen the deep state's going to undermine Trump they don't want him they will undermine him by removing his ability to understand how they operate before he took office they took out General Mike Flynn yep when they took out Flynn Trump was like a baby in the woods and for four years they used the Congress and they use their connections to derail this country that's the problem that occurred in the first Trump four years this time I'm trying to get Trump to realize he's he's got a great start but the people around him don't know what they don't know they

33:05 don't have that historical ev understanding of what this is just didn't happen with Trump i mean they took me out in 2006 so let's get to that they took you out in 2006 and that's kind of where this conversation began i I remember that very well and it was like there were pictures on TV i worked then at CNN there were pictures of you know FBI and their blue jackets outside your daughter's house and it's like Kurt Weldon corruption scandal and then you lost to Cestack is sust former general and just like a he got demoted he was a three star demoted to a two star his wife worked on the Clinton security council uh she had intelligence ties she still does uh name was I think Clark uh and so he and he was on the NC but he was like the ultimate deep stater he doesn't live there now he came

33:52 into the district to run he had been in the district and then after he lost he went back down to Virginia and all of a sudden I mean I remember all this really well thinking like well here's what happened and then he got you know massive funding from around the country you know who ran his campaign his his campaign was managed by the staff director of Sandy Ber's company sandy Berger sent his woman to run the Cestack campaign ah and I I did a 1-hour floor speech about Sandy Burgerer calling him a traitor and we could talk about the I'd I'd like to I'm I'm just getting farfield once again and my my apologies for that but okay so to your daughter and the FBI raid did you have warning like what tell us what happened no advanced warning uh we you know we would have won the election the polls were in October were showing that we were up by about six or eight points all my

34:38 elections have been landslides because I'm moderate Republican and this one I would have become chairman of the committee no doubts about that um you know for some reason the the the CESTAC campaign was maxed out every week in a TV buy you know and three weeks before my election I get a call on a Monday morning that agents had appeared at my daughter's home at 7:00 a.m and I didn't know what's that all about and so I immediately said "Cancel the TV ads my daughter's more important than some TV ads for a campaign." And I didn't know whether she might have done something wrong i didn't think she would have and and so we stopped the campaign but something that I haven't talked about in the past Tucker the same time they raided my daughter's house they raided a lawyer in my district who's a Democrat who um interestingly enough uh they shut

35:27 down his Philadelphia office they brought dogs and helicopters and all to downtown Philly same time at the time they raided his office he had been working for FBI counter intelligence against Russia for two years but I had arranged two years earlier i had arranged two years earlier under oath so the counterintel people handling him went to his office and were sitting with him while these agents from DC come in and you had two sets of agents in the same office at the same time and the counterintel people are saying don't answer any questions we don't know what this is but you're doing work for our country the other ones don't know why they're sent there their first question is "Mr gallagher isn't it true that you're related to Congressman Kurt Weldon?" And John starts laughing at them because

36:12 uh Congressman Walden's wife's last name is the same name as mine and you're from the FBI i know who told them that tucker wait so what but what was the pretext for raiding her daughter's house there was none they never talked to her so what was she charged with what did she go they never charged her they never charged her with anything they never talked to her there was no charge so the FBI just shows up shows up raids takes boxes out and then gives her the boxes back unopened still taped nothing when did When did they give the boxes back that was months later after you'd lost yeah and not only that three months after the election the annual fire dinner in Washington which I started 2,000 people attend members of Congress House and Senate George Bush the father former CIA director does a tribute to me

36:58 which you can I sent it to your staffer you can play it and he says in the tribute "Congressman Walden you're the kind of leader that America needs you're the kind of leader that leaves the country safer stronger those aren't my words those are George Bush Senior's words to 2,000 people after they raided my daughter's house after you'd already been neutralized you were not going to be It was all about getting me out so did you So the the raid comes you must be completely conf she was totally devastated ruined her life what do How do you deal with that i don't know how do how do you deal how do you deal with your kid i'm probably going to find out if you if you want to if you want if you want to come after me you know and that's what I say to them they're scumbags oh I know you

37:43 scumbag if you want to come after me come after me publicly but if you're going to hide and go do something behind somebody which you do now there are good people in the agency but there are scumbags that work in our agencies and I know them and they're making money they're milliondoll people and they're million-dollar companies are going to be exposed if it's the last thing I do and you'll see the ties around the world to the million-dollar intel people who've made money off the backs of young American kids who have died in wars while they make money or their companies make money and I'll give you example after example of that in Russia in Ukraine around the world in Libya that's what's wrong and until we understand that it's not going to stop and Donald Trump's people need to understand that

38:28 we're not playing uh tittly winks out in the schoolyard we're playing with bad people i agree i I Yeah as I've said I've I've I've seen it up close so I know that you're telling the truth what they do to my family is outrageous so So this happens and in the final month of a campaign with three weeks three weeks with this challenger who doesn't live in your district who all of a sudden has I think I'm remembering this correctly a lot of his money came from California all of it then we find out Tucker I'll give it to you we get a memo my staff does some digging what's going on and we find a memo that was sent to my staff in September a month before this from the National Republican Congressional Committee to my campaign committee saying "Hey for some reason your opponent just cut his TV by for one week

39:15 in October by $500,000." The week was the week they raided my daughter's house yeah because he knew he wouldn't need it so they told the Democrats the week they were going to raid my daughter's house i believe it cuz they didn't need the advertising that week but what's crazy if if you think about it and by the way I should say of of Cestack who I always thought was just such a reptile but he had kind of like the perfect views he was very liberal socially but on foreign policy questions he was just n national security state he's a loser perfect national security state um he's an embarrassment and I'll say it publicly he's an embarrassment oh I I could and what he did to my family I'll never forget so but that's the Bush Justice Department that's the Bush FBI it's the

40:00 It's the And I wrote a letter to Mueller which I'll give you was FBI director yes i wrote a personal memo to him on LinkedIn right to his personal self and I said "Mr mueller I respect you personally for being a Marine but you're a scumbag for what you did to my family." So did you call over to the White House and say like "What the hell is going on?" I called Carl Rove he said "Get a good lawyer." And I have no respect for Carl Rove well no one does and I'll tell you that story on another show wait so but your daughter's house gets raided she doesn't get charged with anything the FBI never even got isn't talked to not Char doesn't even get talked to no one and CNN where I'll admit it i then worked we You know the only person that defended me who you're going to laugh no probably not joe Scarbor i believe that he was on my committee joe Scor defended me and said Congressman W

40:46 will never do anything like this and this stupid jerk reporter said "Oh Scarbor know what he's talking about." Joe Scarbor was the only one at that time who really publicly aggressively I I believe that and I knew Joe very well very well then and um he was on my committee on he's not a stupid person by the way whatever Joe's many faults he's not dumb and he gets how politics works but he won't talk to me now of course not um okay so you call Carl Rove and you say like what the hell Carl Rove what is going on here and he just says get a good lawyer that was it yeah he's the same scumbag that when I told him that I told uh this uh company in Florida that was being harassed to hire a lobbyist i told him to hire Bob Dole and he started screaming at me on the phone he said "Who are you to tell anybody to hire Bob Dole's law firm?" I

41:32 said "Bob Dole's a war hero he's a credible person." He said "Don't you know who his partner is?" I said "I have no idea who his partner is." Well his partner was Ian Richards from Texas what does that have to do with somebody doing national security issues because Carl Ro was from Texas and his nemesis in Texas was Bob Dole's partner he didn't want them to benefit that's what he's like that's exactly what he's like he's a small fat man there's no doubt about that um very small so we're not positive that cryptocurrency is the future of finance but we do know that what we have now is broken and dangerous debt has never been higher in this country many of our so-called leaders are getting rich serving you it's a scam so where does it go well thankfully there are options donald Trump has said repeatedly he wants the United States to be the crypto capital of the world he's already

42:18 created the Crypto Advisory Council and recently signed an executive order to establish a Bitcoin strategic reserve this could give normal people an alternative to the government's failing system and frankly to the US dollar i'm not saying put all your money outside the US dollar but like don't be crazy don't be stupid here you can see where it's going so the people at it Trust Capital can help you get in to this it's complicated for people who aren't following it they make it easy they're based 100% in the United States of America we looked into this they service only American investors and they operate the only platform that allows you to buy and sell crypto 24/7 both inside and outside of your tax advantaged IRA and it all happens on one easy to use dashboard they also operate a closed loop system meaning that bad actors

43:03 can't access your account and steal your money so if you're considering adding Bitcoin if you want to or some other cryptocurrency your po portfolio ITR can be trusted and it's easy to understand i trustcap.com or click the link below wow okay so that's kind of that's the end of your political career well it's the end of my public career but I have a lot of friends i know i I got a lot of people that support now people want me to talk and I am talking because Trump's in power and the only thing they can do they can kill me now two of my friends were killed or I think they were killed one was threatened by a guy that was running to be the head of the CIA he got a call this guy that was live was was in Florida John Quirk was career intelligence for the CIA and he helped me he gave me all the internal stuff of what they were doing to try to they tried to portray me as a Russian spy of

43:51 all this stupidity right been there so uh right so uh Quirk called me he said "You won't believe where I got a call from." He told me the guy's name he said "The guy said to me why are you helping Kurt Weldon?" And Jo Quirk said "Because Kurt Welton's a patriot." The guy slammed down the phone that guy's a multi-millionaire in New York right now multi-millionaire get his money off the backs of the American people what happened to your friend you think he was murdered i think he was given a uh they both had fastmoving cancer and that's a typical uh process that the agency uses overseas when they want to get rid of somebody i'm aware of that most people are not aware of that um but do do you know that to be true that that is a I don't I don't I can't prove it no but do you know that they both died suddenly the the US government has the

44:37 technology to absolutely absolutely infect people with fastmoving cancer absolutely as they do with the you know in 1997 I did the first hearing on asymmetric threats i was a chairman of the research committee and I focused on four threats the and you can read about them the first threat was the use of drones which nobody was using then the second was cyber attacks which is now a big deal the third was EMP people don't even know what EMP is i was the leader of that i wrote EMP legislation and the fourth was cognitive warfare people don't understand cognitive warfare and today our intelligence agency's trying to pretend they don't know what it is like oh we don't know what that is because the the Russians have used it and the Chinese they called Havana syndrome right we know what it is the directed energy weapons directed energy weapons um but you believe that um and the only reason I'm pushing on this is because I

45:23 know for a fact that highly informed uh people in other countries with you know real intel services who are not crazy or sophisticated take it as a matter of fact that it is possible to transmit fatal cancer um from one person to another or from a machine to a person and you and you know that that's true i don't know that the details i know the research that was being done when I was chairman of the oversight committee for research was very provocative and we need members of Congress that are unafraid to get fully immersed in understanding um what we're doing and why we're doing it the problem with the members of Congress is that there are good members in both parties but they get staffers who have career goals and their career goal might be to go work at the Pentagon or go work for the agency yes so they get compromised midway

46:08 through you can't have that you got to have people that understand their loyalty has got to be for the country and for what their original goal and that's why it's so important that we and the ultimate goal here is to have this presidential commission on 9/11 to hold people accountable and to let the president appoint a commission that asks the questions of what really happened both intelligence- wise and with the actual structure so that we understand and then we make those people accountable believe me when we do that then you shake the system up i agree with that and and um I think it's really important to begin declassifying a lot of things that the US government has done with our money in our name over the past 60 years um you know starting with the Kennedy assassination which the president you know has issued an executive order on January 23rd to declassified hasn't hasn't happened uh MLK RFK etc etc i

46:58 think we should know what happened in the in Butler Township in July but I think the big the big story is 9/11 and everything the reason is all those happened decades ago and I agree with you 9/11 is only 24 years ago and I have all the information i have the firefighters ready to go i have the tapes of the firefighters and what they saw and heard i have all the architects and engineers and all their 3,000 of them risking their careers i have the lawyers i have the families everybody's ready to go all Trump has to do is name a new presidential commission let them do the investigation we'll give them all the material and then we'll show the country that we cannot we will not allow these people to to commit these kinds of outre they're not even unscrupulous they're outrageous and scandalous and traous acts against our nation imagine

47:45 planning to kill American people i can't begin to think of that okay so um but you've also just said that two friends of yours died of fastmoving cancer i don't know that i Well they died of cancer right but you think that the the people who are hiding the truth about 9/11 are capable of murder absolutely absolutely well I I guess that would be obvious since 3,000 people were murdered that day just like Libya we we were the ones that caused Gaddafi's death because uh Hillary Clinton played a game over there and I I was the one that went over there during the war gaddafi asked me to come over i took uh a Biden staffer and a Bush staffer and a film uh crew leader from uh ABC1 in New York Larry Mnty with me and a cameraman because I didn't want the CA to set me up i hand carried a letter back from Gaddafi offering to resign the US didn't want him to resign

48:30 they wanted to kill him why because Gaddafi and I met him three times i took Biden on my second trip to Libya by the way he went with me when I spoke to the whole country at every meeting I had with Gaddafi he wanted two things he wanted to unite the African continent into into a group of nations economically like European stand go like the European economy he wanted to base it on the gold standard and the US and Europe didn't want that and the other thing is they wanted control of his oil and they wanted control of his sovereign wealth so Gaddafi had to go that's outrageous and it's wrong yeah but that I think sounds right to me but we've allowed so many of our kids to be drawn into conflicts to be killed and these people doing this are they've never served in any capacity in our country they've never been in the military they've never served on a fire ground and it's outrageous that they think they

49:16 can get away with this and sit back and make all this money it's outrageous i couldn't agree more so um what let's get to 911 itself and and you were so deeply involved in so many parts of this personally that it's I think it's easy to go off on different tangents but just to the extent that you can describe what you know to be true you said don't want to speculate as to motive for example but what you know to be true what do you think the core truth of 9/11 September 11th 2001 is I I I don't at this point in time I have my own perceptions i don't have something I can give 100% um I can't swear on but I what I'm seeing bothers me to the core of my body

50:02 that 9/11 did not happen because a group of hijackers got control of some planes first of all I have confirmed that two of the hijackers that were on one of the planes in New York were working for the CIA they were on the CIA payroll and that was confirmed to me by someone in writing from one of our agencies and I have that letter so two of the people involved were actually working for the CIA in one of the planes i know that and they lost control of them and there were reprimands against those agency people after the fact um second I know the intelligence they tried three times to transfer the information about information that could have prevented 911 that's fact to the Justice Department and I have the name of the person that at the Justice Department they uh contacted and she was told to

50:48 cancel the meetings they couldn't have the meetings who who did that order come from who that's that that's what needs to be investigated okay and then we have John Crane the inspector general of the Pentagon who went to the extent of issuing a uh request um for whistleblower status because he was told to lie to the Congress and lie about pre 911 intelligence and able danger and then we have general uh the the book by the general and his comments that he knew within seconds none of this is in the 911 commission report the 911 Commission report is a piece of garbage well then you also have it and I don't I mean this is just a fact i don't know what to make of it but you have a guy called Alex Jones who's a broadcaster um who said that summer that the World Trade Centers are going to hit by planes and a guy called Osama bin Laden is going to be blamed he said that on tape

51:35 with a time stamp so we know that that actually happened that's not not making it up it's not a conspiracy theory he said that and it's like how would he know that that's so far out of the realm of what anyone was thinking in Washington where I lived at the time that so then my question is okay if I'm Philip Zelico the guy running the 911 commission I'm calling Alex Jones immediately saying come on in under oath and we're going to find out how did you know that and instead the US government the FBI in particular set about to destroy Alex Jones and and almost succeeded i mean they engineered a billion dollar judgment against him etc et but they really have like tried to to to kill him for saying that and it's like if you wanted to get to the truth why would you act that way why would you knock you out of Congress at the time I of 9/11 I had been to the World Trade

52:21 Center in 93 the governor of New York Mario Cuomo called my office talked to me personally thanked me for coming up he watched my 1-hour presentation uh I was back up there with Ray Downey i brought Ray Downy's widow and five kids down in my district after 911 to honor him as a hero um I u I was up all during the 911 incident at ground zero and um I did everything I could to and I felt responsible do you know the 911 commission would not let me testify before the commission now I'm a firefighter i'm a fire chief i'm a state fire instructor i spent my whole career helping protect people from disasters the 911 commission even though my experience as a member of Congress vice chairman of defense and homeland security would not call me to testify

53:06 would not call me to go in and speak before the N because they knew what I would say so when the commission said it's going to issue its report which was when pardon interrupt what year was that it was when the report was released i think it was 2005 so what I did the the report was being released in the ways and means room of the cannon building i went over i sat in the front row to be the first one lee Hamilton and Tom Kane were up there good people i don't blame them it wasn't them it was the staffers that controlled this it wasn't the commissioner zelico guy that's right zelico and Gerellic and Deer Snell deer Snell was a staffer working for them jamie Gerellic who was a Clinton DOJ appointee who wrote the firewall memo that said you can't transfer military intelligence to civilian law enforcement i think Bill Crystal's cousin too unless I'm misremembering maybe that's the case

53:52 so I sat in the front row and I said "Lee why did you not allow me to testify?" And he said to me "Well Congressman you know we had a lot of people that wanted to testify now I'm the representative of all the firefighters in the country i'm the point person for the firefighters i'm a firefighter and a fire chief i had been at the trade center in ' 93 i had been there in 911 and they would not let me testify because they didn't want to hear what I had to say." What would you have said i would have said that is that we caused this what do you mean with the intelligence they I have the evidence that we we could have stopped this not me louisie Free said that based upon what I came out with Louis Free's op-ed in the Wall Street Journal which I can give you a copy of said the the 911 commission was an incomplete investigation and he also on Good Morning American said the same thing they tried to blame Louis Free because Louis Free had left uh the FBI the year

54:38 before 911 happened so he was their scapegoat and I to this day I think Louis very upset over that yeah um Yeah I believe that so the only way around this is to have a new for the firefighters of America and for our country to have an independent commission be appointed and give that commission full authority to take this wherever it goes including the end result and the end result may be very ugly i I there's a sense in which that's pretty obvious i mean like why why is anything from 911 still classified it's our country it happened to 3,000 of our fellow Americans we have an absolute right to know what happened there's not even a question um and it was almost 25 years ago so like spare me your lectures about national security but can I ask you this so by the way I never questioned anything about 911 and I

55:25 actively attacked people who did um I'm ashamed of that but that's a fact i did it on tape more than once cuz my feeling was well you know like that's divisive or whatever i was a child and an idiot um but the what began to make me wonder and I have no idea what happened to 9/11 but it's very clear that there's a lot of lying around it was the collapse of building 7 and all the wackos would be like building 7 building 7 i'd be like shut up wackos and then if you just sort of look at it you're like well that is very weird actually no plane hit that building and it does this happen a lot when buildings catch fire right okay besides being a firefighter I work for the INA largest insurance company in North America i was responsible for training their fire protection arson people for 18 years that doesn't happen you never have a 47story building just

56:11 collapse uh which this is even Donald Trump I have a tape of him speaking on 911 and Donald Trump which I'll give you a copy i've seen it in his own words says that's controlled demolition yeah i mean it it certainly looks that way i mean look I don't know see here's what they did they brought in NIST they brought in NIST to do a report can you tell us what NIST is nist is the uh the uh National Institute for Standards and Technology to do an assessment now they're like any other federal agency and there are good people there but there are people that want their jobs and want their careers and they're not going to rock the boat and they came out with a report that's hogwash the University of Alaska which is an very uh credible engineering department did a full reputation of the NIST report saying it's full with gaps and full with inaccuracies and areas where they did not get the right information let me

56:58 just say this to you um people say "Well you can't question NIST." NIST always does the right thing when I went to Congress Tucker in my first term I'm two doors from the speaker's office speaker Jim Wright his office catches on fire at 7:00 at night as a firefighter i go up punch the door open get down on my hands and knees crawl in the kitchen's fully involved this is all documented you can read about it and um said to my staffer "Go get me the portable extinguishers." Three of the five weren't charged i said "Go get me the hose in the hose station." There was no host in the host station i come back out and I say "We got to evacuate the building." Now I'm in my first term it's a sevenstory building above ground no sprinklers no detectors no alarms here is the building one of the seven six office buildings

57:43 holding the House and the Senate in violation of every building code and fire code in America now I'm an expert on NFPA 101 the life safety code and the BOCA codes this building if NIST did its job NIS would have said if you're going to be in Congress you're going to work in a building where your constituents who are blind and handicapped are not going to feel threatened seven stories above ground no alarm system no detection system so a fire is occurring and the police are running through the building yelling "Fire get out." That's the You cannot trust the federal agencies obviously I of course that's obvious now but tell us like from an engineering perspective like what you had three buildings come down sort of

58:31 collapse in on themselves implode it looked like and a lot of people have said many credible non-crazy people have said that was controlled demolition was it well when I got up there uh the day after uh I I I had been at the trade center at the restaurant on the top several times there's no way those two buildings could

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