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0:00 Jane, what's up? >> Oh, you know, just thinking about national security, the security of journalists, just normal thoughts I have on a Tuesday. >> Well, then you're in luck because we have a couple clips to respond to today. And the first is uh based on a huge scoop from the Washington Post that Donald Trump flew home from the NATO summit in Turkey last month on a secret plane >> due to a credible Iranian threat against Air Force One, >> which he allowed to fly home full of staff and reporters as a decoy >> without anyone on the plane knowing it. >> Here's a clip of Trump escaping out the back of the plane on a catering cart. >> Okay, >> so there he goes. there. He's on the
0:45 plane. Normal. >> Okay. Okay. Now you got to Oh, now. Okay. They've they've highlighted it for us. Now we're really media boards the plane. Unwitting dupes. >> And then there's the airport catering truck >> in the back there. And it is going into the rear of a C32A. And then they uh then that plane took him to London >> where he got back in the old Air Force One deplaned on the stairs so that no one would be the wiser. >> Not the beautiful Qatari gift plane. >> Then he got on the Qatari gift plane to go from London back to DC.
1:31 >> Honestly, I'm impressed. >> What do you think about this whole story? >> I have a lot of thoughts. Uh top one now. Do you recall the attempted shooting at the White House uh correspondents dinner? >> I do. >> Do you remember Trump's reaction afterwards when he was asked about it? >> No. >> Uh do you So there are lots of pieces to this. >> He said that, you know, everybody was very brave, but Secret Service had to keep telling him like, "Sir, keep your head down." And he was like, "I just wanted to look around. I just wanted to see what was going on." So, the fact that Trump went along with this >> and also because I was like, you know, the back of a catering truck can't be very comfortable. The I am certain that there were numerous moments where he's like, but but I don't want to. I want to see what's happening. What's going on? What are you guys doing? Like, there is an element where I'm like, he is a man.
2:18 He's an 80-year-old man. Yeah. And I don't know if you have recently had to convince an 80-year-old man to do anything, >> especially that one. >> Yeah. Like this one. Um, yeah, I'm more I'm kind of impressed that Secret Service got him to do any of this. >> We do have some stills of him in the >> in the catering cart. There he is. >> That's the McDonald there. See there? That's what he wants right now. He's doing a little Titanic there. Sort of got his hands and there he is. >> Ah, >> so this is an example of AI being good. Uh, the internet has just been making all kinds of AI of Trump doing his own kind of Taylor Swift, >> right? Exactly. >> In the cart there. >> Yeah. >> So, we can pop out. Yeah. >> I do think the whole story raises a few questions. Um >> uh so the journalists
3:03 >> the journalists um went on the the decoy plane, the Air Force One, which uh was apparently under threat from a surfaceto-air Iranian missile and um and no one told them about it. >> Nope. >> That seems a little dicey. >> Especially uh Jake Tapper pointed out on Twitter that like he's gone to Afghanistan. He's been on planes where like there's a threat and typically you go with the president. You you you the president would presumably maybe want to keep you alive maybe potentially but like you would go along and in this case >> he he they did not and they had no idea. I mean, are they finding like they would be finding out now, >> right? Because yes, it it when anytime this has happened before, >> um they at very least the very least
3:49 they would brief the press as soon as the threat is passed, >> right? >> But not that did not happen at all. Apparently Rubio stayed on the Air Force One. So maybe Marco Rubio was like, well, now he clearly knew because he's also the national security adviser and was probably involved in the decision along with the Secret Service. Secret Service makes the decision. Also, they consulted with some national security officials. Well, at least that's what the reporting said. But um uh so it's Rubio, some White House staff, and a bunch of reporters just sitting ducks on that old plane. Um and later that day when Trump was on the flight >> Yeah. >> from uh on the on the Qatari gift plane back to DC, he did talk to reporters. One of the reporters were asked um why they had to close the shades >> and he said Trump said, "You're >> you're probably in a dangerous flight because of the sleas bags that we have
4:35 to deal with." And um then he said, "But if I go, you go." Right. Perhaps someday you want to change professions. But now we know he wouldn't have gone. >> He wouldn't have gone. >> They would. >> They would have gone. He wouldn't have gone. >> Yeah. >> Which is like sort of just being a dick. >> Yeah. Like >> like knowing what he knew, he was just like, "Yeah, but you know, we were all going down together." Not >> no. you would die a horrible, terrifying death, which is among the many reasons I dislike flying. Because >> if Let me ask you something. How do you think if this had been uh Joe Biden in the catering cart or Barack Obama, >> how do you think the right-wing media would have reacted to the president ducking out on the catering cart to
5:21 escape the Iranian threat while everyone else was on the >> ascended to the right hand of whomever his father is, whom I'm assuming is Donald Trump. Um, the degree to which I mean the right-wing understanding of who Donald Trump is is something that people have been trying to figure out now for 11 years. But like the understanding of Donald Trump being this extraordinarily brave masculine person who after the assassination attempted like fight >> but um also this person who basically is like I got to get on a catering truck which like let's be clear here he is the president of the United States as far as I can tell secret service their job is to keep him alive keep him safe they did their job. it was the right thing to do
6:07 the right thing. It was a good it was a >> Yeah. >> My my my I mean I have many questions about this. I have questions about how journalists had no idea and also about the fact that like we are well aware that how this would be positioned in right-wing media which would result in god knows how many dumb hearings from dumb people would just be like oh my god >> what a coward >> what a coward this you know he risked >> the there would be like >> low tea low tea president >> there would be a catering there'd be a first person story from some daily caller reporter being like why did Joe Biden put my life at risk I children. It's all very sad. Like there'd be a whole thing >> and we know that there won't be a whole thing. But I think >> the other thing that I keep thinking about is like
6:53 >> this is the kind of, you know, part of why the Qatari plane, let's keep in mind that, you know, going back to the Qatari plane, which I keep bringing up, the New York Times was like, "Hey, this plane is not as secure as they've been saying." And the DOJ was like, "Uh, we're going to need your phone and we're going to need to talk to everyone you bring. Um, we're also going to need to look at your phone calls with your own parents." And then, you know, a judge was like, "Um, I'm sorry. What? No, that's ridiculous." So like >> yep. >> These are all things that the administration had like the administration has said repeatedly that, you know, the Qatar plane is fine, but now it has to be under repairs because it's just not as nice as it should. We know now that none of that's true. And so I think like the security concerns,
7:38 the very real security concerns because it keeps coming up in some reporting that Trump facing assassination attempts or assassination plots from Iran as far as we know. Like that's something that Trump thinks about all the time. That's something that has come up in how the war has been fought. That's something that's that's come up in how he is thinking about this war. How he's thinking about why we got into this war in the first place. As the great Jud Leum uh pointed out, it is one of the 17 reasons we have been given as to why we are at war right now. >> Well, but also um I'm I'm surprised that u the Iranians were able to mount any sort of assassination threat because we were been reliably told that their military has been decimated. Their leadership has been decimated. There's also a lot of like anyone who's asking questions about this, it's like the president was there was an assassination
8:25 threat on the president. How dare you? sad. >> Oh, the assassination threat that came from uh the fact that the president tried and successfully assassinated multiple Iranian leaders >> from from Solommani onto uh the Ayatollah like Yeah. Guess what? When you assassinate another country's leaders, they're probably going to come for you. >> Yeah. No, that's um uh there is a saying that you know in war uh the opponent gets a say. And it turns out that when you kill someone's father, as far as we know, wife, at least per one child, maybe, just maybe, they may try to kill you, which like, you know, not ideal, but that's kind of how like this there there's there's an idea of that would be the means by which Iran would attempt to respond to, you know, bombing them a
9:12 whole lot. Like there is something there were a couple of people who posted kind of after um the initial few weeks of the war. Remember how it was supposed to be like a four to six week war? >> I remember that where basically it's like you can just do things. It turns out blowback isn't real. And I'm like, "Oh, >> looks like the Iranians can just do things too." >> Yeah, everybody gets to do things. >> Pod America breaking news is brought to you by Zip Recruiter. With everyday interactions becoming increasingly impersonal, someone going just one extra step can be huge. Like when my doctor takes the time to call me with test results instead of sending them electronically, they came back positive for gay. It makes me feel like a human being again. If you're hiring, great candidates can also go the extra step and tell you why they're interested in your job on Zip Recruiter as a way to stand out from others in the pool. And Zip Recruiter
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10:43 constitution, how our declaration of independence, how it works. Uh it doesn't work that way. And they're not smart. They have no aptitude. They have nothing going and they're telling us how to run our country. We have jihadists being elected all over the place. We have this whether it's communism, jihadism. It's a lot of friend of mine called up. He said, "You know, really, you should use the word jihadist because that's what's happening." >> Great advice. Great advice. Use the word jihadists to describe uh candidates um who were non-white with um uh progressive views on issues. That's what we're we're calling them, jihadists. Now, >> was the friend Hugh Hewitt? Like I like
11:29 that we could like I'm like, was it Hugh Hewitt? Did she call jihadist? Like I'm just like we could probably figure out who called you like this. You I mean I know he takes calls from literally anyone, but like I'm going to force people to remember things that happened three years ago, >> which is very challenging. Do you remember three years ago there was an effort on the right to join forces with Muslim American families who might be more conservative-minded? Because at if you go back even further, >> um, Muslim Americans before 911, before actually the year 2000, tended to vote Republican. Uh, Muslim Americans big supporters of George W. Bush's uh, gubernatorial campaigns in Texas, for example. There was an effort uh, to join
12:14 forces because everybody was very worried about uh, LGBT material being in schools. Remember the grooming thing? I haven't forgotten. I'll never move on. No. um everyone involved was terrible, but like there was a whole thing of like, oh, we're all going to come together because, you know, we all have this shared thing um about how we're very mad about this issue and it happened in Maryland, uh in uh Montgomery County, in Virginia, I believe that there was a whole effort and that led to a Supreme Court case about this very issue. >> Well, apparently everyone involved in that effort died, I guess, or um exploded or disento situation. Yeah, it really is where I I'm like it but it's like I'm the person who doesn't need post-it notes to remember things. I'm like I was there. I remember. But like >> you went back a couple years. I was
13:00 going to go back to um I don't know the 2024 election even in the in the years since Trump has taken office again when there was uh many news cycles uh decrying and clutching pearls over anyone who called Trump or anything his administration was doing fascist. Mhm. >> Um any kind authoritarian dictator that this it was horrible to ever call Trump to say the f word around Trump fascist. That is a horrible thing to do. But now the president of United States is calling >> um Abdul Elsed a jihadist. Right. >> He thinks that's funny. >> Yes. He thinks it's funny. And uh I I've been really interested. I mean you you also see this with uh Manni though Trump
13:46 is like he's also very attractive. He's very attractive. But also this idea of like, oh no, no, this is all like, you know, when Mammi hosts uh pride events at uh you know, city hall or something like that, like, oh, that's just undercover jihadism. I'm like look >> from like from from what I understand about jihadist movements which very much um they don't do a lot of pride events like you know they were not like you know >> Osama bin Laden was not emailing people in 2011 from before being murdered in a cave being like got to do some pride events. >> Yeah. jihadism and and and wokeism are not two flavors that go together. >> No. It's also funny where you just uh you hear people using terms where you're like you didn't really look you you'd
14:33 heard the term like red brown alliance at one time they just were like you're going to repeat it a bunch and I'm like oh sweetie honey no. So um also like this entire thing this like oh we're going against these crazy people because it's like basically Trump wants to use all of these terms as interchangeable because it's just like crazy people >> right jihadist communist. Yeah, it's all the same thing, just crazy people. But that all relies on all of these candidates running against >> like Bizaro Paul Ryan. They are not like Mike Rogers decided one day that he was like, I got to get I got to get real weird. And now he's trying to do this like I'm actually just a normal person thing. And I'm like, no, we >> a normal person who still thinks that the 2020 election was stolen and also probably my election that I lost in
15:19 2024. >> Yeah. which is so weird how they just keep, you know, Democrats, we are so capable that we can just now steal very individual elections. Um, it's amazing and wow, we should be using that power all the time. But yeah, no, there is a like Trump seems for a while I thought at some point that he had to be aware of his own unpopularity. He's not. He has no idea and he does not care because he believes like his whole self understanding is that everyone loves him and thinks he's great. um >> if he loses the midterms, it's the people are mad at Republicans, >> right? Because he's like, "How could anyone possibly vote for these crazy people?" And I'm like, "Well, in some cases they're not crazy. And in other cases, people are making the calculus that they're like, "Yeah, this guy seems kind of weird, but this guy running to
16:05 be governor of Colorado said he killed people as children and you endorsed the My Pillow guy in Minnesota." So, like, you know, there's a little bit of like I've seen, you're crazy. >> Crazyy's coming from inside the house. >> Yeah. >> All right, last clip here. We got uh Trump somehow had time last night to call into the Wayne Allen Root Show on Real America's Voice. Uh which if you've never heard of it, good for you. Trump has done this show like 16 times. >> Yeah. Wayne Allen wrote, if I recall, uh also said back in 2016 that um Jewish Americans view uh Trump as their savior, which >> um messianic No, no, that's not how this works. But okay, >> for a savior in Judaism, but sure. Great. >> Sure. Amazing. >> Uh all right. Root had a pitch for
16:52 Trump. Let's listen. >> Mhm. So, let me let me put an idea in your head. Okay. Because it's so hard to get the Senate to do anything now. They're on recess. they don't get anything done. If they never get the Save America Act done, you have the right to declare a national security emergency for elections. And the Supreme Court ruled in 1983 under Reagan uh that INS versus Chada that if you declare a national security emergency as the president of the United States, they can't challenge it. It can only be overturned by a twothirds vote of both houses of Congress. So if you do this in the next month, we will get photo ID, proof of citizenship, and a limit to mailin ballots. And you don't even
17:38 have happened. Okay, I'll leave it at that. >> All right, we'll leave it at that. >> Stranger things have happened. >> Also, did you have I have led an insurrection against the capital, so that was >> also did you notice that I can't tell if Trump is dressed like him or if he's dressed like Trump because it really is a column A, column B. Um >> um so things that can't happen. >> No, that's no >> for a thousand. >> No, that's um >> even >> that that can't happen. >> That cannot happen. Um Trump one uh Trump loves playing an eternal game of yes and where he's just like very interesting idea. Stranger things have happened because he's thinking about the content >> and you know as content creators. Well, >> but also but also there is that uh 17page draft executive order that was circulating um claiming that you know
18:25 China interfered in 2020 and there so he did that whole prime time speech. I forgot about that. >> Yeah. Which uh did you notice how like every like everyone looked at what they had and everybody was like oh so this is like nothing and you have nothing. There is nothing. Bannon told Steve Bannon told his audience uh last week to uh that everyone should block out the last week of August uh because it's coming uh something something around this >> is that where he's going to take off one layer of shirt just like you know we're going to get down to layer five or something like that. But like >> does this like declare a declare an emergency or whatever? This has been floating around. >> Yes. No, of course it's been floating around >> in the White House as well. >> Yeah. No, I mean, of course it has because the White House and the craziest you've ever heard in your life are just like now one thing. There's no one
19:12 to be like, "Hey, like maybe you're a little too online for your own good." But let's go back to the idea of this, which is that um one, he can't it would be unconstitutional. I know Trump doesn't care, so that's kind of like not a limiting principle here, but like courts care and even the Supreme Court. Even this Supreme Court, >> even this Supreme because part of why his tariffs got knocked down earlier this year was he attempted to do the tariffs as a responding to a national security emergency. And the Supreme Court, Justice Roberts, was like, maybe, you know, I think Congress should get to have a say and there should be fewer times in which you can just declare there to be an emergency when there isn't one. Let's also keep in mind that like elections are stateled and they're led by localities and there are like 170,000 different localities that are going to be running elections and have
19:57 been running elections like >> and that one is right in the constitution. That's not even a law. It's very clear that the states get to administer the elections. >> Yeah. And so like also that all of this hinges I mean I we we've both talked about the Save America Act a lot. A lot of this also hinges on his understanding of like this just being like if we have this we will never lose another election. But also I'm like you're aware that an election in which only people with passports can vote is an election that will probably be won by Democrats just >> maybe by even more than than they would have otherwise. >> Yeah. No. Um, and I'm aware like more like I think we're now at like 50% of Americans have passports, but you will
20:43 never guess uh what what what kind of people are less likely to have passports and which groups of people are more likely to have passports. >> Trump certainly will never get never guess. >> No. >> Nor a lot of these Republicans. >> No. Um, this is uh it it's interesting also because Trump has so much time to call into shows with people like Wayne Allen Root, who by the way also was like a giant like birther promoter. >> Oh, yeah. >> He's crazy from way back. >> No, he's you know, we're we're talking likely. He's he's he's vintage crazy. >> Yeah. O, that's that's sweet vintage crazy. But like this is another thing where it's like somebody telling him something and he's like, "That's very interesting. I'm very intrigued. stay tuned. But I think that that is more
21:29 about attempting to scare people and wanting people to be afraid. And I think it's very important like you know I'll say it, others should say it. Uh voting in the midterms matters. You are safe to vote. If you're not safe to vote, somebody is going to try and ensure that you are safe to vote. It is important that you vote. It is important that you vote for so many reasons, but also because Donald Trump doesn't want you to. And we're Americans. We have oppositional defiance disorder as a rule. And when someone tells you that you should be afraid to do something, um I think you should do it. Except for uh climbing Mount Everest. Don't do that. Don't do that. >> To borrow a line from from Donald Trump in 2024, just got to elections got to be too big to rig.
22:14 >> Exactly. >> That's why everyone's got to go vote. >> Precisely. >> Uh thanks Jane and everyone else. Uh please consider subscribing to Pod Save America uh on YouTube. It's free. All you have to do is just click that subscribe button right there and then that'll help us continue to um deliver great content like this into your feeds so that you get less Wayne Ellen Routt and more me and Jane. >> Exactly. Thanks everyone. Thank you.