"LOS GRISES ESTÁN ALIADOS CON LOS NÓRDICOS" - Entrevista a ROBERTO PINOTTI

0:07 Hello friends, welcome to Ritmio35. How are you? Today we meet for the second consecutive day this

0:59 weekend, at the World Ufology Congress the Ufology World Congress in Barcelona, Hotel Esperia Tower.

1:50 Hello Roberto. Thank you very much for accepting this invitation. On my right I have a person who will do the relevant translation and Roberto will speak in English. First question, Roberto, what would be the current state of the ufology in Italy right now? the actual state of ufology in Italy and in

2:36 the world is the same. In Italy and in the rest of the world, the state of ufology is the same. Why? Because since Luis Elizondo, since this has been published, we all know now that these ships are a technological intelligence that is not In Italy, since this sighting was made public, we have the same conception as in the rest of the world. The most important thing is that Luis Elizondo said that these extraterrestrial ships, we know that they are not terrestrial because they have broken with all the

3:24 metrics of the time and space that we know here. The most important thing about all this information from Luis Elizondo is that he was asked if he was aware of contact between authorities and extraterrestrial beings and his answer was exactly: "Sure, but it is highly classified information." That means he did not deny it. Exactly. Are you one of those who think that behind the apparent opening of information by the Pentagon and the high authorities, is there any interest that benefits them

4:09 to do this? Why now release all this information? The problem is that they probably understood that it is no longer possible to make public any kind of information because they can't keep it hidden. Otherwise, in the United States, for example, they will be in line of order to tell you that you are lying and you will be put to the stage if people understood. So what has happened is that there has come a time when they can no longer deny it, because they already knew they were lying, so they don't want to lie anymore. well presently in italy is he's been working since 1976 seriously in ufo research which means that they are possibly the most veterans

5:00 in ufo research in the world he is the organizer of the congress on ufology in san marino and now they are going through the Absolutely. There is no proof in the "There is no proof that these reptilian entities exist. This is just a legend on the internet." "And the case in Italy of Fortunato Zanfretta?" "It's another thing. Zanfretta did not meet reptilians, absolutely." This is totally positive,

5:48 totally different from what we were talking about about the reptilian entities. The problem with this particular case is: is he remembering absolutely everything, everything he saw, or is he remembering something that his mind and his brain have created after what he saw? This case, Sanfretta. What happens with this case in particular is that he was absolutely terrified, with which terror could create this kind of monster that he saw. I have to say that the case is absolutely authentic. What happens is that what we don't know is if terror could create in his

6:33 mind a kind of monstrous image, because there is no other case like this in the rest of the world with the vision of a being or what he saw, like this one, but his story is authentic. I would like to know, Roberto, your conclusion after all these years about the phenomenon of abductions. Who is behind it? Why are people being kidnapped? And if you believe that there is a global program of hybridization, that is, of the famous "alien babies". Of course, the abductions First of all, let's make clear that not all the abductions are real, but not

7:21 everything you see on the Internet and everything that is said to have been abduced are real cases, especially what you see on the Internet. There are only a few cases and those are the ones that we still have to interpret the abductions. We have the case of Travis Weltham, which is a totally confirmed case, but he himself is not considered abduced. In this case, it is clear, it is confirmed that it was an abduction because he was taken to the ship. Then they left him there, they left him again, but in this case he remembers perfectly how

8:08 he was lying down. The question is, what has a Nordic to do with It is really special because Travis was healed in this. He was literally introduced into an energetic field where he was treated and left in the same place again. So, it's not considered

8:55 as an abduction to use, because what really happened to him is that he was cured and left in the same place again. And he said at the beginning that in this case, for example, what is more special is that people were wondering: "But what do the Grish do with the Nordics?" And that's why the question is that in this case he was cured, healed. But healed of what? He was healed because of the shock he had. The answer

9:43 about abductions Okay. But John Mack is said, some of the sectors of the ufology

10:28 criticize him, that he was financed by Rockefeller. Absolutely false. He was a friend of his, John. Do you think he was murdered? I can't exclude this. You know that the family does not say this, but as you know, I can't exclude this. I can't exclude this possibility of murder. Obviously, the family will never say it, but we can't exclude it. I can't personally exclude this possibility. You know what's going on in this world with this kind of information. about the information that can be released. And he can't, I can't exclude him personally. I see that you,

11:18 in some way, consider very important the possibility that a sector of the beings that kidnap people be positive or have positive priorities towards the human being. Yes, yes, that's right. Including the grey ones? To begin with, we have enough information that the Nordics work with the Grises and that the Grises are really a form of helpers, they are like nurses for the Nordics. So this would be totally, his vision, totally contrary to that of Corrado Malanga.

12:07 In Italy, Currado Malanga is not considered absolutely his position is negative and it's not serious and it's not something that we can consider as credible enough. He doesn't want to consider it. Yes, he doesn't want to talk about it. It's totally respectable and he decided not to talk about it. Malanga was discredited to the limit of possibilities. Yes, he says that in Italy he is totally discrediting, ufologically speaking, Mr. Malanga. He does not give him any credibility. Do you think they are like nurses, the grays? They are like our nurses

12:56 here. I'm asking if they are nurses from the Nordics. That's like a nurse. For me they are like nurses. My experience is that. You may tell this. It's exactly my opinion. Thank you. So, all this, the hybridization program, because they are doing something with the human being, these grays. My position is that the grey ones are really what makes a series of experiments demonstrated and confirmed, but not in the violent aspect that we usually see on the internet. It is quite the opposite, it is usually much more positive. Antonio Villafuas' case is, for example, he thinks the

13:46 same, it is the same position. Final question? Yes. Telepathy. How do you see the future of the ufology? Do you think the day of the great revelation will come, that the president of the United States will give the great news? Or the military? Or which sector will give the great news? Or never? Never? Well, authorities and... The problem with the authorities is that, as the question is, how are we going to justify more than 70 years of disappointment? - Really, political authorities are more of a problem than religious authorities, which are less of a problem. Why? Because, really, for religious authorities, they have been telling us since forever that there is a higher intelligence,

14:33 so for them, for religion, for different religions, it is easier to justify that all this is really the proof that what they already knew, that there is this higher intelligence. The problem is for politicians, who are not going to be able to justify that they have not said it before. But do you think something important is going to be said? Yes, it is a process which cannot be stopped. I think something is going to be said, because we are in a moment when we cannot hide anything anymore. I don't know if a domino effect is going to appear, in which so much information is already appearing that absolutely everything has to be made public. We are there, but he has started saying that this process cannot be stopped. You

15:23 don't know how far we will get with this domino effect. We hope there will be a contact. We hope. The problem is that the information has to arrive when the public is prepared. What we don't know is whether the public is prepared for this information. Thank you very much, Roberto, for your very clear and concise answers. Friend, I really appreciate it.

16:13 And don't be surprised sir but it's true because I have witnesses. Jimmy Carter and I were abducted by the same race of intelligent aliens and it was that abduction