0:00 Oh, hey. Heat. Heat.
1:01 Hello everybody and welcome. This is the Apostate Prophet. How's everybody doing? I hope everybody's having a fantastic day. David, what's up, man? I asked you a question, man. What's up? >> Well, spent nine hours driving home. Fortunately, my son was doing the driving, but uh anyway, I was in a car. I slept for a little bit, then woke up, went live, then went live with a tune, and then just when I finished all my lives, you say, "Hey, let's go live." That's true. Well, uh I wasn't going to go live today. I thought I definitely won't go live today. I was uh I actually I left earlier than you did our work together
1:48 and drove for quite a little while and then drove for quite a few hours then uh spent the night somewhere was so tired woke up early continued driving arrived home already it everything feels very diffic everything everything feels very weird I can't tell what was yesterday and what was today and all that so >> we're not interested in your feelings >> this is definitely not the time to go live. And I was resting and I was getting ready to possibly even go to sleep early. But then I decided to have a final look at my phone. And as I had a final look at my phone, I came across a name again, which is Sam Shimoon, and the things that he's talking about.
2:34 And so I was like, "All right, let me check. Let me check what he said this time." So, I'm checking and I see that he talks about you and me on this post and on that post that he has a live stream and he talks about you and about me again on that live stream. And then on the same live stream later on, despite thrashing us for going to Dearborn and preaching to Muslims instead of preaching to Jews, he actually invites God logic on who was there in Dearbornne with us. >> And let me guess, wasn't attacking God logic for doing the exact same thing we were. Oh, >> no. That's Sam. >> Sam decides everything based on feelings and then he uses his brain to attack everyone that he doesn't like. And uh
3:19 yeah, it's it's a it's a it's a pathetic situation. Absolutely hypocritical. Absolutely hypocritical rat bastard this guy. So, um everybody has been following. Everybody knows what's up, right? Everybody knows how how I've been responding to the situation. And I barely mention him. When I mention him, I have been What did I do the last time? What did I do the last time Sam Shimun came up? I sat here and I put on my best uh my best best version of myself that I really I really meant it. And I said, "Look, Sam, I don't hate you. Look, Sam, how about this? How about that? How about you answer my question, Sam? Come on, Sam. Still love you." And all that. I tried it that way. It apparently doesn't work. It really
4:05 doesn't work. And I really don't want to fight with anybody. I really don't want to fight with a with a fellow Christian. Although, you know, uh I don't want to make any claims about him being a about whether he is or is not a Christian. But I think this guy has gone too far. You know, it's so funny, man. I was recently asked by people, by others, what I think of Sam Shimon. Despite everything, despite everything that I know about him, despite all his foul behavior, still quite recently, a very famous person in the Christian apologetic scene, I was sitting with him and he asked me, "Hey, what do you think about Sam Shimoon?" And I said to him, well, look, Sam is very problematic, but still he has like a lot of good qualities and
4:50 uh I have a lot of problems with him and he has a lot of problems and and all that and we all have our shortcomings, but you know, he adds a lot of good value to this. I actually kind of still talked well about Sam despite everything, but he doesn't learn. This bastard just doesn't learn. He is always this slimy bastard Sam Shimmoon who doesn't appreciate anything who doesn't appreciate any any kindness who doesn't appreciate any goodness and who acts like the bastard that he is because it is the bastard Sam Shimoon who to my knowledge from reliable sources is also a rapist allegedly
5:36 this Samuan of course I'm not sure what what what I was even expecting This Sam Shimoon, of course, this lying bastard Sam Shimon. You know what's you know what the funniest thing about Sam Shimon is, man? He makes posts like um he was supposed to go on a show and then he uh cancelled the show and he apparently cried to his audience that he didn't want that he didn't want to go because he had gained too much weight and he was feeling too too insecure about himself which is why he didn't want to go to that show. >> And then he'll call everyone else fat even though >> Yeah. And then he he talks about you and it calls you a fat bastard. You know what's very funny about Sam Schum I I mean I I don't judge >> AP AP AP >> what >> um my weight kind of fluctuates. I actually uh I actually get in shape pretty easily. I'm just I'm never consistent with it. I'll get I get super
6:21 bored. Uh anyway, so I I never keep it up like long term. It'll I'll I'll start working out for because like back pain or something like that. I'll be like, "Okay, I need to get in shape." But then the back pain will go away and then I won't care about it anymore and stuff like that. But anyway, you known me for a long time. You ever heard you ever see me like sensitive about my weight? >> Nope. >> No. Uh, is Sam Shimoon sensitive about his weight? >> Big time. >> And what does he use as an That's the amazing thing. He thinks like matter of fact, that's like uh uh Mary Hart pointed out once this is how kids learn um like to hit others. They'll learn what hurts them and they'll attack others with like the same thing. They'll learn that it hurts to get pinched. So they'll start pinching others, right? Sam attacks with what hurts him and
7:08 realize it doesn't hurt anyone else who's not like sensitive about that, but he'll still toss it out there because that's what hurts him. He'll toss that out as an attack even though even if it doesn't make any sense. I mean, he was calling Anthony Rogers fat. Anthony Rogers at his at his heaviest he's ever been is like the size of one of Sam's legs when you know and he's going fat fat fat fat fat. Sam at the most at the best in the best shape. Now, now to be fair, when Sam was young, he was into weightlifting and stuff, so he was actually in really good shape, but in the best shape any of us had ever because he did Sam Sam was uh Sam was like super huge and then lost a bunch of weight. So, but at Sam's most fit that we that you know, the public have ever encountered him in is still is
7:54 still fatter than than Anthony at the heaviest he's ever been. And he'll call Anthony fat. Why? Because that's what hurts him, right? Like so he'll take whatever is hurtful to him and he'll attack everyone else with it. Like Sam could call me fat. I wouldn't care even slightly. But it's this big thing. Hey, this fat Luther, this fatty fat fat I have hurt him. Why using that insult? Because that's what that's what bothers me. But anyway, like that's like the glaringly obvious version of everything else. uh he takes all the things that hurt him and he lashes out at everyone else with those same things even though they don't apply to everyone else as nearly as much as they do to him and they don't hurt other people the way they hurt him and it's
8:41 just like but he's like that with everything with everything he has that he has that toddler's mentality of this is what hurts me therefore I you know pinching me hurt therefore I will I will pinch someone else and I and I know that it hurts and uh anyway just a just a weird he's never psychologically he is a toddler. He psychologically he is a toddler but he has a just absolutely turbocharged brain for gathering information, absorbing information, knowing references and stuff like that. And it's just like you know as your knowledge grows you should also be growing in maturity. and he's just never grown in maturity at all. Not once at any point in his life. >> Apparently, not at all. Um,
9:29 so, you know, I don't want to judge people by their by their weight or anything at all. Uh, I don't like to do that kind of stuff, but um, it is always very ironic to me. It is very ironic to me that right now he's referring to you as a fat Zionist bastard. I met Sam Shimoon. When was I don't know when that when that was. That was um Oh, yeah. That was just half a year ago. That was that was after uh Charlie was was murdered and I went to his to his memorial or was um I think it was around that time. I think it was around his memorial. Then Sam messaged me and wanted to meet me and um I saw him in person for the first time. I was I was very surprised because I met Sam Shimun for the first time and
10:15 what approached me basically looked like this. It basically looked like this. That's basically it was like a giant giant blob, a giant entity with a small head on top of it. That's what it looked like. That's what it looked. I'm not even exaggerating. In fact, so it's more like this. Here it is. This is basically what what approached me when I met Sam Shimoon for the first time. And I don't think this does it enough justice because the head should be smaller in proportion in comparison to the body here. It's like a it's just a small head wobbling on top of this giant blob that is moving around. That is what approached me that day. I was slightly scared. I wondered if
11:01 this is even a real person, if this is real even the real human body. I I was I I I am still shocked sometimes and I still wonder how it is even anatomically possible that such a thing exists. How such a thing can even walk around? How such a thing can communicate? How such a thing can talk? How such a thing can stand? How such a thing can eat and drink and breathe? I still don't understand. It is one of the big questions that I have. It's one of the very very big questions that I have. But this is basically what approached me that day. And this guy is the one who's calling people fat. Look, I don't want to do this, Sam, but hey, look at this. What uh shameful music said his recall is good, but he twists scripture into a weapon all the
11:47 time. Here's the thing. Everything is a weapon for Sam. I've I've said I already said it. He every He decides everything based on his emotions. husband >> like he doesn't like people or he does like people or he likes this or doesn't like that and everything is a weapon for him but that is that is the Bible is a weapon for him that is what it is right he us if he doesn't like you he will use the Bible against you right and it could be any person it could be any person guess what because of his recall he is able to more effectively wield any uh sort of weapon against uh other people. And so, yeah, everything is a weapon for him. And so, the Bible is his main weapon. It's what he uses to get people
12:33 to follow him because that's the way it is, right? Like, if you knew nothing about Sam, you tune into one of his live streams, be like, "Okay, he's calling people's names and stuff like this. Maybe he's just a he's just a little rough around the edges, but man, listen to his scripture recall and so on." that that's what he's using to keep anyone at all, anyone following him. Because what what would he be if he did not have that scripture recall ability that he uses people to keep, you know, to keep a couple hundred people loyal to him? What would he if he didn't have that? What would he be? He'd just be a guy who sits around screaming about other people all day and insulting people all day. And so, yeah, it's it's if he didn't have the scripture recall ability, he would just be like the the absolute worst person you've ever met. Just sits around whining and complaining
13:18 and attacking everyone and obsess like obsessively. Like, it doesn't matter. We we could go months without paying the slightest bit of attention. I don't I don't know what's going on with Sam except when people start messaging me. He's like, "They're saying this about you, saying that about you, saying this about you." Other than that, I wouldn't I wouldn't I don't go to his I'm not I'm not going and watching any of his stuff, so I wouldn't pay attention. Um, but anyway, if he didn't have the scripture recall ability, he would just be like this weird, sick, delusional nut job who sits around attacking everyone else around him by calling them whatever he's most sensitive about. And it would be like the most pathetic existence there is. But he he has amazing scriptural recall. And so he uses that to keep some people um to keep some people um watching him. But
14:04 notice he he doesn't his his uh his fan base doesn't grow. He has the same I don't know his numbers, but I would guess his if they haven't declined, I guess he wouldn't have the same I don't think he would have more people watching him now than were watching him a year ago or a year before that because over time people realize, "Wow, I want nothing to do with this dude." And they leave. Well, then guess what? More people come in. They're like, "Whoa, look, this guy knows knows the scripture really well. Let me follow him." and they'll watch him for a while and they'll look past things and eventually it like reaches a threshold like this guy's or or he'll flip out on them because they ask a question or something. He starts attacking their mothers and eventually it gets to a point where I I just can't follow this guy. But guess what? So then you don't follow him anymore. And then what happens? Someone else comes along and says, "Uh, oh wow, this guy really knows
14:50 scripture really well." So he he he's like Islam and that he's you know except he doesn't have the minus the high birth rate where the people leaving Islam um are offsetting the people that who are converting to Islam. It's like that with Sam. It's he's not going to he's not going to grow in popularity because as as fast as like some new person will find him, there are other people who are who are leaving him and saying I want nothing to do with this dude. But no, that's a situation. I was I was his friend um for years. Anthony was his friend for years. My wife was his friend for years. Um he was married for years. No one no one who is act was actually a friend to this dude at any point wants anything to do with him. And he'll still say he'll say, "Oh, I have friends." No, he has yesmen who don't question
15:37 anything he does. Those he considers friends. If you're But guess what? That's not a real friend. A real friend who's just, "Oh, what are you doing? You're talking about uh graping. You want to hold this? You want to hold this guy's mom down to help people grape his mom? that's what you're saying. Um, oh that's great, Sam. Man, you're really you're really strong and base. Those are the those are the people he would consider actual friends. And if you say, "Dude, you need to stop that, man. Stop that." Then you're suddenly an enemy and you're not a real friend. And it's just like complete like narcissism. Uh, main issue is borderline personality disorder, but it's just a it's just a sad, pathetic existence. >> Look at this, man. >> I go on any of his live streams. I go on any of his live streams. I open the transcript and I type in David Wood. Any live stream you are mentioned at uh
16:25 on on some of them you are mentioned once always. David Wood. David Wood. David Wood. Look at here. David Wood. David Wood. David Wood. David Wood. David Wood. An apostate prophet. Saying nothing about Israel. David Wood. An apostate prophet. Okay. Next one. Who cares what David Wood says? David Wood. Fellow Zionist. Pig. Apostate prophet. Next. Live stream. David Wood. David Wood. David Wood. David Wood. David Wood. David Wood. David Wood. Next live stream. David Wood. An apostate prophet. This guy is obsessed, man. How How many times have we mentioned Sam Shimoon over the last uh over the last weeks? We we just started uh talking about it because I thought, dude, this is enough is enough man. >> Yeah. He only came up in anything I was saying because like Malik is talking
17:11 about him and stuff and that's the only we're responding to Malik. were responding to Malik and then uh apparently they're feeding each other information wherewith to attack their common foe. So that's that's the context in which Sam uh Sam comes up in my thinking. >> You said wherewith. So um where should we even start? So the funniest thing was of course here. Um here is one live stream where he uh where I first thought dude we have to talk about this. Um no not this one here this one here. So something about the pope, he mentions uh you first. He says that you make fun of the of Catholics because of what the pope has said. I don't remember you actually making fun of Catholics in any serious way. And as far as he knows you personally, he should also know that you don't actually
17:58 seriously make fun of Catholics when you make fun of Catholics. >> And and by the way, he does know that. But anything he will use anything. So something that when he likes me, he'll just Oh, David David's being funny. David, you know, David's not David's not big on the disagreements and doesn't uh doesn't care a whole lot. He he leaves that to other people, but when he's mad at you, he'll use anything. He'll use anything he can take. >> Look at this. You see? Oh my goodness. He's the worst person in the world. >> He's obsessed with wood. >> He's obsessed. >> Uh so let's let's have a listen. >> The finger someone told me this. You'll have three fingers pointing back to you. >> You just you just >> I'm going to mention this. >> You just thought of that. >> You he just heard that. I've only heard that since I was like in kindergarten, >> dude. I mean, I'm I I I'm I'm some
18:43 Turkish guy. I heard that many times. I don't understand. >> Because you've had David Wood make fun of Catholics because of what the Pope has said. Who cares what a shelf for Zion? >> A shell for Zion. >> I think he means shill. >> A shill for Zion. >> Yeah, Zion. What? Zion. Mount Zion. What's he talking about? for Zion? You mean for Zionism? I don't think you should be using Zion for Zionism or Israel. Sam, are you or are you saying that Zion right now applies to the current monastery of Israel? That the biblical Zion is all about the monastery of Israel. That sounds very heretical, man. in your church, >> a Zionist dog, a pig who platforms an
19:30 adulterer who's with an adulterer, another Zionist pig has to say about the Catholic Church. Now, anybody who knows David Wood personally knows very very well that when David makes fun of Catholics Orthodox Protestants Turks, maybe not Turks, but uh black people, others. David is never serious. Anybody who knows him personally knows this. Anybody who knows David personally knows that he makes fun of everything. >> And by the way, Sam knows this. >> And nobody of all the people who know him, Sam probably is one of the best to know
20:20 this about David. Yet, because David said some funny things about Catholics, Sam tries to make it look like David made fun of Catholics. He knows that David only jokes about every single thing and that he's not that he doesn't actually mean it. But this guy is a liar because he has a he has beef with David now. He he wants he he actually lies and deliberately misrepresents David just to slander him and attack him. That's really really messed up, man. Really, >> it's the same rule. Anything is a weapon, right? The Bible's a weapon. Anything is a weapon. Uh, anything you say is a weapon. Uh, is for him right now, Israel is a weapon, right? He knows
21:05 he knows there there are lots of people thinking on this. And so, LOOK AT THESE GUYS. AND it's a weapon. It's all a weapon for him. And, and how can you tell? Why? because it was just last year when you were pointing out that um after your debate with uh with Andrew Wilson that he's like, "Hey, I can help you uh I can help you uh make some of your arguments strong." And the topic of that was like, >> "Should Christians be Zionists?" >> Well, that's the topic of the debate. So, the topic of the debate was >> uh should Christians be Zionists? And you had the affirmative. And he's like, "Uh, hey, great job. let me help let me I can actually help you. And so so he's helping someone defend the claim. He was offering to help you defend better defend the claim that
21:51 Christians should be Zionists. And now it's his it's his main weapon. It's his main weapon. Why? Because it's that that's how he is. There is no there is no this is my real position on something. It's this is if if if you're on my good side, then this is something I can use to ingratiate myself with you and get you loyal to me. If I'm mad at you, then this is a weapon I use against you. And that's just like everything. That's everything. Everything is a is a is a weapon to attack whoever he's mad at at any given moment. >> That is exactly true. So, I mentioned it last time we talked about Sam and and I made it um I I I talked about it in the form of asking Sam the question and having him affirm that he actually did
22:37 say these things to me. But um I asked him the question of whether he did say these things to me or not, whether he can state that these things are true or not. So, he hasn't responded to it. So, I might as well just uh talk about it again. So, when was our debate? My debate with Andrew Wilson was sometime May 2025 or something like that. Um I should still have some of the messages here but more so than messages. So he did send me messages right after the debate uh voice messages I believe. And then um right after the voice messages I he asked me for my number. I gave him my number. He then called me for an hour. Sam
23:26 Shimon after my debate with Andrew Wilson. So here is the debate. Here is the debate in question. My debate with Andrew Wilson. The topic was uh should Christians support uh support Zionism or should Christians support Israel? That was the debate. Of course, I argued yes, they should. Andrew Wilson argued um not that they shouldn't, but that they that Christians don't have any obligation, you know, to support uh Zionism. After this debate, so this this all happened after this debate, Sam calls me on the phone while I'm on my way back and he says, "Hey, brother, uh you did a good job against uh Andrew. You did a good job in that debate. You did a good job in that debate, but you can do an even better
24:11 job." I actually agree with you, brother. I actually agree with you, but I think you could have done it in a better way. And I want to help you. I want to help you work on your argument and make it even better. And I can tell you I can explain to you exactly uh how you should argue this point. >> All right. Okay. Let's do it. I'm have a conversation with you. >> Yep. Yep. By the way, think about that. Hey, guess what? This is him. I know the scriptures better than you. And that's just a fact, right? So, I know the scriptures better than you. So, why don't we team up, form an alliance, and I'll give you access to my great knowledge and you just be loyal to me.
24:58 That's always the deal. And then if at some point uh he's mad at you, then he'll completely flip the script and you're evil for holding this position that he was about to hold that he was saying he agrees with you on and wanted to help you with. That's how it is. That's how this this how he is for that's his entire life. >> Yeah. So, let me point this out one more time. Right now, Sam Shimon is attacking us day and night allegedly because we're doing the horrible mistake of uh not criticizing us or of supporting Israel or something like that. And who could possibly do that? This is absolutely evil. Who would support these Zionist bastards? Sam Shimon after my debate in which I argued that Christians should support the state of Israel called me and said that he agrees with me. Sam
25:45 called me on the phone and for an hour or more talked to me about how he agrees with me that Christians should of course support Israel. Christians should of course be on the side of Israel. Although he has problems with s with with Netanyahu. This is what he said at that point. He said, "I'm just against this Netanyahu. If Netanyahu was gone, things would be much better. I think Netanyahu was just making things worse. But of course, of course, Christians should support should support Israel. I don't agree with the Christian Zionists, he said. And I said to him, I don't agree with them either. >> I'm not a Christian Zionist. >> I'm not a Christian Zionist. I don't agree with the Christian Zionists. I said to him, he acknowledged that today he calls me a Christian Zionist. >> Yeah. So, just to be clear, for anyone who's watching, Christian Zionism is a
26:30 particular like theological position. >> Um, I don't adhere to that. AP doesn't adhere to that. He knows that we don't adhere to it. He tells people we adhere to it to attack us. Isn't that interesting? Like he knows he's lying, but he knows >> very very well that I don't agree with this with the position of theological Christian Zionism. He knows it from this debate because I said it right here very explicitly and he also knows it because I explained it to him very much. In fact, I said to him, um, Christian Zionists might even be making things, uh, worse for everyone. I said in that conversation, I'm happy to say all of this to say all of this publicly. I said I might even uh Christian Zionists with their with some of their actions might even make things more difficult just as many of the anti-Zionists make things more difficult. I think that um the right
27:17 balance is to go a middle path and to support Israel's um to support Israel's existence especially against these Islamists and all that and you know because the Jews are the better ones. We should be standing with them. I also pointed out to him still I'm not sure I wonder what he will say about that. I pointed out to him uh just as I did in the debate that a very from from a from a proper reading of the Bible it is very very clear that um as Paul himself points out that the Jews who do not believe in Christianity or who do not believe in Jesus despite being um described as opponents or enemies for the gospel's sake are specially beloved by God for the sake of their ancestors was for the sake of their patriarchs that God still has an ongoing promise
28:04 for them that God still will save them according to the New Testament ultimately uh before the after the after the Gentiles have all been grafted in. That is what the Bible says. He agreed with me on that. He did say of course you know the Jews have false beliefs. Jews have wrong beliefs and all of that. But of course Jews are still uh beloved uh there is still a a plan by God for the Jews. uh but we don't know exactly what but of course you know he what he even did this was kind of I was wondering if this is normal to believe in Catholic Christianity because he's a Catholic he even suggested to me the following listen now Sam Shimon during the conversation I had with him explained to me the following
28:50 and I and I kind of um I see where he's coming from I don't ex I don't exactly know what to think about it he even said to me because the Bible says that um you know God first spoke to the Jews and then to the to the Gentiles. So you know um the Old Testament first came to the to the Jews or God you know the testaments first came to the Jews then to the Gentiles. The Gentiles were kind of in this position of not being um of um not being entirely as uh guilty when they commit wrongdoings as Jews would be in the eyes of God at the time where the Jews were in their in their covenant with God. But now after the coming of Jesus when uh the covenant has been
29:37 established with the Gentiles, the Jews to whom it came first who were also much more responsible for their actions have been pushed away. But now because the the gentile Christians are at um are are are the priority in the eyes of God, God might not judge the Jews as much when they commit wrong things as he does the Christians. So Jews might be getting away with things. Jews might be forgiven for things. Jews might even be forgiven for not believing in in Christ while others are not so easily. So he even said to me, he actually thinks that when rabbis like he has he has seen videos of rabbis who die and then um you can see them have a
30:24 smile on their face and he said you know who knows it could be that God simply you know forgives them for their situation because they have a reason for rejecting Christianity uh for rejecting Christ. Who knows God maybe maybe just accepts them as they are and admits them into heaven anyway. This is what what Sam Shimmoon said to me. Ask him about this today. I wonder what he says about that today. Now he acts like, "Oh, we are these people are sucking up to Jews. These people are sucking up to Israel. These people are sucking up to Zionism." Everything that he's condemning right now, he was completely the opposite in that conversation with me. This was not even very long ago. This was this was a year ago, less than a year ago. He was completely on board with it. He said, "I won this debate against Andrew Wilson. I won this debate." and he of course
31:10 agrees with my position that Christians should support the state of Israel. He just wants to correct a few things and tell and wants to help me make it even better. He also agreed that God has a special love for Jews which stands out among his love for all the other nations because he has an ongoing promise and a plan for them uniquely unlike any other nation that he will eventually save them. He agreed with all of these things and he agreed of course that we should uh be siding with Israel because those who respect God's will and God's love would of course protect the the Jews, the people of Israel from perishing, especially at the hands of the of Islamists and things like that. Now he is acting like he never said any of
31:56 these things. Everything I said, Sam, is it true or not? Sam, did you say these things to me or did you not? Now you're acting like this is a mortal sin. Did you say these things or did you not? >> He to be clear, he said those things to you when he still thought he could uh bring you in under his expert toutelage and you could be his disciple and I will teach you and you shall be my student and you shall be under my control. Then when he realized that's not going to be the case, then you're uh you're a mortal enemy and he will instantly adopt the opposite positions of everything he said to weaponize them against you and to attack you and to um side with anyone who hates you because of those things
32:41 and rally people against you and stuff. And uh yeah, that's Sam. That's Sam in a nutshell. >> The funny thing is also um I actually had a lot of respect for what he was saying and I was actually taking that very seriously. I actually sat down and and listened to him for an hour and actually made notes of some of the important things that he said to me in that conversation. That's how much I respect his um his input on the matter. And now I don't know, it's just it's just uh the relationship between us is very unrecognizable. It's very very interesting. However, so let's get back to this. Um here is the the live stream. Look what he says now. >> In point of fact, I'm going to turn it against them. I need you to listen. The dogs right now are in Dearborn, Michigan. They're trying to evangelize
33:28 Muslims at a mosque. Now, let me ask you a question. When's the last time David Wood and his fellow Zionist pig, the adulterer, apostate prophet, gone to synagogues to evangelize Jews? >> Uh, quick question. Pause that. >> Yes. So, did he uh ask God logic the exact same question? Because when's the last time God logic went and rolled up on a on a synagogue? >> Hang on. >> Let him finish. >> Okay. >> When When's the last time you've had them do sessions exposing the tomood and what the rabbis say about our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ?
34:15 >> One more. When's the last time they have a te team trip? A team trip where he brings his cult followers. Go watch it. It's all his cult followers. That is that other All right. So, um, we are dogs. All of us. We went to Dearbornne to preach to Muslims. We are dogs. We are hypocrites. We are cult followers. Apparently, we are all part of David Woods cult. And we went over there. When was the last time we went to Jews to synagogues to preach to them? This is all very very funny except it's not so funny anymore after you realize that with within less than 24 hours after saying this or actually you know it was actually more than 24 hours
35:01 within a few days after saying this suddenly he sits right here and look who appears on the live stream now. What? So is God logic? And why is this relevant? Because God logic Avery was right there with us in Dearbornne. He was right there. He was actually he was he was probably the the main attraction there. He was the he was one of the primary figures >> with us in Dearbornne preaching to Muslims >> and he was the reason I was there. >> Yeah, >> it was a while back. It was a while back and I forget if it was him or IP, but they were like, "Hey, we should uh we should take a trip to Dearborn." Like,
35:46 "Yeah, I'll go." >> So, he sits there. He calls us dogs, us who go to Dearbornne and preach to Muslims. He calls us hypocrites. He asks us when we last went and preached to Jews, when we went when we preached to synagogue to synagogues. He calls us all these things. He says they are all cult followers, part of David Wood's cult, but God Logic himself was also there. Just a few days later, he actually has God Logic on his show in a friendly way because he wants to be friends with this with God Logic who is who is who who's very was getting very rightfully so, very famous right now for what he's doing here. >> Yeah. And Sam definitely wants to remain connected with him because that, you
36:31 know, he he'll he'll need that. He'll need he'll need that he'll need that help for uh for popularity wise. But look at this. Soon as we brought it up, uh Pewie says, "No, shouldn't drag Avery into this. He seems to keep far away from all this that you don't understand the point. The point is Sam doesn't believe what he's saying. >> Nobody is bringing Avery into this, man. Avery is is Avery is the best that we have right now in the Christian. >> Yes. We're not using Avery to attack Sam. The point is when Sam Yeah. When Sam says, "Oh my goodness, they went to a mosque. What hypocrites because they're not going to synagogues." He doesn't actually believe that. He doesn't believe that if you go and talk to Muslims leaving a mosque, you either
37:18 you you have to go and do the same at a synagogue or you're a hypocrite. He doesn't believe that. I don't believe that. I believe people can focus on certain things. And by the way, Sam knows. Sam knows my mentality has always been, hey, here's a big ideology with two billion adherence whose ideology calls for them to violently subjugate me. I'm going to focus on that. I'm not going to focus on Hinduism. I'm not going to focus on Buddhism. I'm not going to focus on cults. I don't focus on Mormons. I don't focus on Jehovah's Witness. I don't focus on any of that. I focus on the big giant the big giant ideology that's calling for my death and the death of all my friends. Right? That's what I'm going to focus on. And so, he knows that. He knows I always go
38:04 after the big ideology, the big giant threat. He knows that. So why bring up, oh my goodness, why would they why would they talk to Muslims? Why would they be confronting Islam and not go after the Jews? Does he really believe that that's a problem? No, he doesn't. But he'll use it anyway. And you can tell he's fake because he's not calling uh he Avery just did the exact same thing we did. He did the exact same. He was in the exact same place at the exact same time. Sam had no problem with it. Why is he attack Why is he attacking us for something that if he took it seriously, he should be attacking everyone who was there? He doesn't. He He It's a weapon. It's a weapon that he can use against someone he's mad at. That's everything. That's everything. So, he will put if he
38:49 doesn't like you, he'll point he'll point to you and attack you for something. And if the person standing right beside you, he's fine with and he's on his good side, then there's no there's no reason to criticize. There's no reason to criticize. And it's funny because he's calling us hypocrite. He's the biggest hypocrite I've ever met in my entire life. I've never met a bigger hypocrite. A big fat hypocrite. A big blob of a hypocrite. So the some of his cult followers after after he finished his live stream came over here to now flood the comment section. This is the funny thing about it. He accuses David of having a cult. The only person of these two who actually has a cult is Sam Shimoon. He has these dumb blind followers who follow him around and uh agree with him no matter what he says. That's not David. That's you, Sam. But here is here is him, Sam, sitting there
39:36 calling us out for going to Dearbornne and preaching to Muslims and uh calls us all kinds of names because why when was the last time we went to Zionist to synagogues to preach to them? All right. Did God logic do that? Because here you are sitting with God logic who was actually with us. Who was actually while you were sitting there um feeding yourself whatever whatever filth that it is that you feed yourself while ranting like a crazy man in your strange place where you see orbs flying around. While you were doing that Avery God logic was actually with us on the forefront and we have and and we were doing work. To be honest I wasn't doing much of the work. These guys were doing the work. Avery was doing the work. David was doing the
40:22 work. I was mostly simply there and observing, learning. I wasn't doing very much. I was just uh there actually exploring. But these guys were You were doing nothing, Sam. This guy's attacking us over what we did and then the next day sits down with with Avery and starts praising him. I'm sorry. If you are going to attack us over these things, why are you sitting down with Avery, you scumbag? You hypocritical rat bastard. Hypocrite or rat bastard. >> Yeah. So guys, I mean, just think about this wild situation right now, right? From a Christian perspective, should you want Islam confronted? Should you want people out on the streets talking to Muslims, debating with Muslims? >> Um, you should want that. Now, it's
41:09 evidence that you're bad if he's already mad at you, right? So thing that should have been cool that we it's one of the biggest it's one of the biggest mosques um tons of people. We go out there uh we go out there stand out in front of it um with signs. I was I had a sign asking uh Muslims to tell me why we should believe Muhammad. No one ever gave me anything close to a a reasonable answer. God logic standing there with a sign that says prove Jesus is a Muslim for $2,200. This Christians should you don't have to be doing it outside a mosque. I mean that particular mosque is it in a different category with me. They bla they blast their sermons not just the call to prayer. They blast their sermon over the entire area. It's blasting on over a loudspeaker. In other words, you can't say, "Well, how dare you go to
41:58 that place and proclaim your message?" What are you talking about? They're proclaiming their message to me. If you're walking on If I'm walking down the street, they're proclaiming Islam to my me to to me. They're proclaiming Muhammad to me. Do I get a do I have a right to respond? So, um, that seems like something Christians should be doing, especially if they're concerned about Islam. That seems like something you should be doing for Sam because he's already mad at us. It becomes it's a reason to attack us. How dare you guys confront Islam unless you're confronting everything else in the world. And that that's a Muslim that's a Muslim that's a Muslim argument, right? Why are you talking about this when you're not talking about that? Why are you talking about this when you're not Well, I mean, can I kind of talk about what I'm interest, you know, what I'm interested in or what I what I believe that I'm
42:44 here to respond to? Am I not allowed? I mean, think, guys, if you took that seriously, anything you're doing, I could be saying why you're not doing something else. Any point you're criticizing, I could say, why are you not criticizing something else? You could say that endlessly. I could tell you why I'm confronting Islam and I can explain to you why I believe that this is what I'm supposed to be doing. I can explain all that. Um but nope, if you're doing it, if you're doing it and in Sam's mind, um he again he uses the same objections Muslims. Why why are you responding to this and not that? Why are you going after this and not that? And guess what? You're just going to be seeing more and more of that. Sam is going to become like more pro- Islam because that will help him use it as an attack. In other words, it's the same thing that's going on with like Tucker
43:30 Carlson, uh, Candace Owens as they break apart from former people that they were connected to and so on and become enraged at them. They'll start taking the opposite positions on on these things, right? like Tucker. Tucker's Tucker's at Fox for years, very critical of Islam, uh calling out lots of things at Islam, calling out violence in Islam. Then Fox News fires him. Suddenly, he starts going pro-Islam and the only people who are against Sharia and stuff are uh um stupid idiots who are trying to manipulate you. Same thing with Candace. Used to be very critical of Islam, now very pro-Islam. The people, it's just the Jews using Islam to to dupe you. And do the same thing for Sam. >> Hey, hang on, hang on, hang on. Let me check. Let me check this out to you for a second.
44:18 That was it. Zionism is good. Say, can you give me the receipts and show me Zionism is good? Can you give me the receipts so I can bury him in his lies? Zionism is good. Huh? Okay. Now, first off, I haven't said Zionism. I I didn't say that he told me Zionism is good. I did say that uh he gave me a call and talked to me about uh how he agrees with my position and how how I can make it even stronger. Now, um I was wondering if he's denying that we ever had this conversation. >> I'm the one who helped him in a debate with Andrew Wilson, but he still got pawned. >> Wait, you got what? Sam, it looks like you got things a
45:03 little bit wrong because um I guess I have to do this now, man. Here's my screen. It says May 1st. It says May 1st here on my screen. You can barely see it. You can probably not see it. Why am I trying? Why am I trying? You can't see it. So May 1st, um that's when the debate happens, then goes public. Um, it is it is visible. Here is what he says to me. >> Absolutely worse than the Muslims. They're scum because they claim to be Christian, but they're scum. Now, Revan, >> here he was talking about the online Orthodox Christians. By the way, >> your buddy Dave, you need a bad guy like me. So, you need a jerk like me to put
45:50 them in their place. But if you ever want to talk to me about Romans 11, how you can make your case stronger, I'll let you know. >> This is what he said about about that first. Then I said to him, "Let's talk tomorrow." Then he was like, >> "Reach out to me. I'll give you my number. Reach out to me. I'll give you my number." >> That's what he said. Then now context, why does he say if you want me to make you if you want me to if you want to help, if you want help to make your case stronger about Romans 11? Why is he saying that? It's because Romans 11 is the primary thing that I used during my debate with Andrew Wilson. I specifically used Romans 11 to argue that uh that Jews even those who reject Jesus are still beloved to God. That God
46:37 still has an everlasting plan for them. That there is still a mystery as Paul points out that there is a partial hardening upon the Jews but that God will save them in the end and so on and so forth. this is the primary thing that I used which um Sam saw that so he offered to make my case with Romans 11 even better. I said let's talk tomorrow. Um then I gave him uh I gave him my number. He gave me his number. And then next day he said >> okay I'm going live in a minute but I'll give you my number. We can call after two hours. >> And then after his live stream was done I said sounds good. let me know when you're available. Then later he texted me. He said I am free now. Now he said
47:25 yes. Then I called him and then there was some weird voicemail. I said what kind of voicemail is that? Anyway, here's my number. Call me back. Then he called me back. And then we talked for over an hour about how he agrees with me, about how of course Christians should support Israel, but how I could make my case even better and that I actually won the debate, but he wants me to be even better about this. He wants to help me be even better with this because I have the right case with Romans 11. If he's in so much in disagreement with me, why is he I mean, you can just see the glimpse here. Why is he sending me a message about uh how he wants to help me
48:11 make my case with Romans 11 stronger? Why would he send me such a message? >> Yeah, look at this. >> I didn't record the I didn't record the call that I had with him because I didn't think I had to. Maybe I should have. >> Look at this. 1 Corinthians 10:13. Please, David, stop fighting. Be at peace each other for 1 Corinthians 10:13. No temptation has seized you, but what is common to me? What in the world does that have to do with anything? And by the way, dude, shut up. Just shut up. Do you have any clue what you're saying? What are you doing right here? You're trying to correct me, right? Because you think I'm wrong. >> You think my behavior is wrong and therefore you're trying to correct me. So that's acceptable. Why aren't you Why aren't you being at peace with me? Why Why are you fighting with me? Do you even realize what a hypocrite you are, dude? Dude, this guy came at came at me
48:59 and everyone connected to me for years with like like the most disgusting behavior. Th those of you who think like this, anytime you correct someone, first of all, you're you're a bunch of hypocrites, right? Cuz you'll you'll say it. How dare you correct a person, you should never Wait, are you correcting me? Are you so you believe it's okay to to correct someone who's who's uh who's in error? Um guys, that idea that it doesn't matter how disgusting and repulsive someone's behavior is, just keep your mouth shut about it, that is one of the biggest problems in Christianity. Completely unbib, 100% gradea unbiblical. The Apostle Paul said he called out the
49:45 Apostle Peter in front of everyone because he was wrong. Why? Because what Peter was doing was affecting other people, right? If it had just been like uh Peter dissed Paul in private, then then Paul would have been like, "Look, man, we need to talk about this, right? Just quiet just right here." When he's doing something that's leading other people astray, he'd call him out in front of everybody. Okay? I don't know if you've been paying attention. Sam has the most absol It's worse. It's It's like a thousand times worse than the Dawa guys. Way worse. That's why I couldn't keep working with him, right? I can't call out Muhammad Ajab and Ali Dawa for crossing these lines when Sam is a thousand times I'm not exaggerating guys. He is a thousand times worse. And no, David, just just don't don't ever call that out. Don't ever expose that. Don't don't ever talk about it.
50:31 Well, I didn't for years. For years, I was giving him an opportunity to change. I don't want to like call him out for stuff and then like and then even if he even even if he changes late later he's just like stuck with all stuck with me calling him out and so on. Um it just got to a point where oh my goodness this guy's going after everyone and all he ever does is get worse. But don't don't do it. Just just be at peace with just be shut up. Shut up. You guys sound it's it's rep it's repulsive. Like like if you have a pastor and he's like let's suppose you have a pastor and he's like um he's like uh sexually abusing tons of do you call him out that dude this this mentality right here it's the same thing that kept the uh the the abuse in the Catholic church going on for decades. No one wanted to call it out. They didn't they didn't want to like embarrass it. Just just be quiet.
51:18 >> Hey look at >> stupid stupid unbiblical behavior. You got to call out. You got to there are lots of things that you don't you know publicly expose people for. People can cross lines where okay this is affecting lots of people and um people can be their minds can be so blown by his knowledge of the Bible that they think oh well his behavior must be okay because he knows the scripture. No, his behavior is terrible. It's disgusting and he uses his knowledge of the scripture to keep you on his side and subservient to him. It's a weapon. Do you call that out? Show me chapter and verse of the Bible where you just let false teachers, immoral leaders, uh, complete hypocrites, and you just let it go forever because we don't want to
52:04 cause division. You're just, you know, quit being cowards, man. You got to call stuff out. And keep in mind, I wouldn't even I wouldn't call any of this stuff out. I was about to head to the gym if he's like, "Let's go live." Look, um I just showed I just told everybody uh the message that he sent me in which he offered help with Romans 11 was on May the 2nd on his live stream just now. He he was telling people that he helped me prepare for the debate with Andrew Wilson. Now look at the screen and see when the debate with Andrew Wilson happened. April 28th. When did he send me a message offering help with Romans 11? May 2nd. How the hell did he help me with this debate when he only messaged me several days after this debate?
52:51 This guy is just This guy lies about everything. He now wants to take credit for the debate I had for the debate I had with with Andrew Wilson. He tells me that he he said he tells people that he helped me with this debate. He didn't help me. He didn't help me. He called me after this debate and told me that I did a good job, that he agrees with me, but that he can help me make things even better. And now he want he's telling people that he actually helped me with the debate. You didn't help me, Sam. >> Hey, you. >> However, you did tell me several several days before this debate that you actually agree that uh supporting Israel is not a problem. It's just not a theological issue. That's what you did tell me. Sam, >> look at this. Sam is not perfect. Oh, yeah. We're criticizing him for not being perfect. He is fighting against
53:38 very evil people in many ways. You can ask you can be a Christian and not understand something he's saying and ask for clarification. He'll start calling your mother a [ __ ] So you're you're defending that. You're saying, "Oh, you know, he's not perfect. We're not criticizing for not being perfect." He actually he actually said he wants to help Shia hold down someone's mother so they can rape her. Oh, you know, but he's dealing with evil people, so that's fine. Shut up. Just You guys are nuts, man. You guys are nuts. you guys you got you don't realize you're helping defend horrible behavior by justifying oh you know it's just really hard it's really hard so if someone says he wants to help um he wants to help other people hold down someone's mother to rape to rape her u you know he's fighting evil forces he is an evil force he is an evil force
54:24 so-called Christians attacking Sam that's how you know Sam is in the right place well you know if you see all these Christians attacking Satan then you know that Satan is in the right place >> yeah and by the way uh why wouldn't you say oh if Sam sits around attacking ing all these other Christians, that means they, you know, they're in the right place. You giant hypocrite. You guys, this is the kind of follower Sam produces. >> Mentally ill people. I'm sorry. >> Yeah. Seriously bad. And if you say anything, if you say anything about it, uh, and here's the thing. Sam can sit there, uh, hurl insults at a person for years. The moment that person responds, Sam's father's, "Oh my goodness, why are you trying to cause division? Sam, Sam's work is so great. Why are you so jealous of Sam? You guys are brainwashed morons, man. >> Brainwashed morons indeed. Now, let's continue. Where were we? Actually, let
55:10 me take a few super chats here. Any chance of you guys reconciling? I love you all. I don't think there is any possibility for that at all in the future >> unless Sam go through some repentance. >> That's the thing. It would it would require massive repentance on Sam's part. um complete change uh mental health treatment. Guys, I I stuck with him for two decades trying to get any of that to happen, all he ever did was get worse. So, what you're really saying is David, do you think after watching Sam get worse every single year for two decades straight, he's suddenly going to realize, oh yeah, I've I've I've recognized the air of my waist. Now, I'm going to change and that he's going to be successful in changing. Dude, I was
55:57 >> I don't think it's going to happen. I hope it happens, >> but I was hoping it happened for for two decades and it's he only got worse. So, do the math. >> I was telling Sam not to fight with people, you know. I was messaging him and I was trying to keep >> I was I was for decades like who is who apostate prophet? Who is even this guy? >> Dude, I was messaging with him when nobody else was talking to him and I was saying, "Hey, Sam, you need to tone it down. Don't do this." And he would like a little good boy. Like a little good boy. He would tell me, "Hey, okay, no, you're right, brother. I already I'm not going to respond anymore." I actually, you know, one day he was he was losing it. Sam was losing it completely on Twitter and on on YouTube, attacking Jay
56:43 Dyer over um some messed up stuff. And I and I did think that Sam was actually partly in the right. I did think that that Jay was going too far. But then Sam was making it much much worse with the way that he was going after Jire. So I told him, despite my problems with with Jire, I said, "Dude, Sam, you need to stop this. Tone it down. Don't respond to these people anymore. Slow down." And he sends me a response like a good boy. He says, "Okay, brother. No, you're right. I'm I I I stopped. I'm not going to respond to them after this anymore anyway. This was my last response. I'm not going to respond to them anymore. After this, I'm done. You're right. You're right. That's You're You're right. Half an hour later, I check he's doing a live stream calling Jay Jay uh
57:30 son of a [ __ ] saying all kinds of messed up things about his wife. Half an hour later, man. Half an hour later, I message him and say, "Hey, quit your beef with Jay. Don't say anything anymore." He's like, "No, you're right, brother. I'm gonna stop." Half an hour later, he calls Jay. He has a dedicated live stream about Jay Dire and calls him a son of a war. I still stuck with this guy through this and I was like, "Whoa, who was supposed to prophet? He's a dog." >> Yeah. I was I was the dog that you were listening to. S look look at this. Look at this. As Christians, we must forgive
58:16 each other. Okay. If if if someone Okay, let let me just ask you. Suppose someone's like uh uh molesting children and just does it and is unrepentant. You call him out, you call him out, you call him out, you call him out, you call him out, he defends it, he defends it, he attacks you if you call him out. Do you just say what what do you mean by forgiveness? You just say, "Okay, keep doing that. We're not going to call you out because we don't we're going to cause a scene." That that's what that's what you freaking think. >> Yeah. Totally. >> That's what you think forgiving each other means? You freaking Oh my goodness. Get off of here, guys. Look, this is this is the people he produces, man. Moving on. Zionist pig. Uh, frenzy of David Wood. Moving on. Moving on. Moving on. What actually uh made me
59:03 think, you know what? I'm going to go live and talk about this bastard today. Is this even David Wood and the apostle prophet said nothing about what their masters in Israel are doing. Okay, I'm going to comment on this in a second. However, uh I think it was today that I during today's live stream. Let me see. I don't know where that was, but I I chimed in somewhere. I I tuned in somewhere and I um he was talking about David is now doing damage control and saying that the Israeli company that lifted him just listed him because he had a Christmas campaign. Don't comment on it, David. I'll get back to it in a second. Big Jim says, "Any chance of No. Uh, no. Alan Kish says, "I once wished
59:49 Sam happy birthday because we share the same birthday and he insulted me by saying the sky turned black. Lol." Well, you got away quite nicely. I have seen others who generally thanked Sam and he called them son of a [ __ ] or you [ __ ] Ver Ban Deville said, "Muslims have nerve to mock Christians for being divided over Sam, while Islam was violently divided from day one. We are divided, but our morals stand for themselves." True, true, true, true. Be the dark horse. This is my third dude show today. Does this man sleep? And is he stalking me or am I stalking him? God bless you both. He's stalking you, Tim. Jesus, and God bless you, too. When are you going to go to sleep, man? What's up with you? >> What's your problem? When are you going to go to sleep? probably uh like 4:00
1:00:37 a.m. >> Good. Thanks for coming out to Hamrak for the work y'all do. It was good meeting y'all. It was good to meet you. Chad, let us remain in Christ as he in us. As though as tough as it might be. Hey, I remember you. I remember you. I remember you. You look exactly the way you look on your uh profile picture here. You were there with us at the corner. I remember you. I'm not sure if you were there still later when we went to in front of that shop with that weirdo who called the police on us. >> Dude, that is some of the funniest footage I've ever seen in my entire life, guys. Um, so we went out in front of the supermarket and uh God Logic had his sign set up and anyone could step up and debate him and uh Muslims stepped up
1:01:24 and uh debated him and uh got crushed and then called the cops. called the cops and then the cops showed up. One of them was like a hijabwearing Muslima police officer. She had pink handcuffs. >> She was so nice, man. >> Yeah, I know. They were cool. The police were cool. And I'm saying that cuz I've encountered people uh in nearby Dearbornne who weren't nearly as cool as them, but they were like, they asked what's going on and everyone explained it and they said, "Well, you guys aren't breaking any laws." So, uh, you know, and then they took off. That was totally cool. Then the dude came back, right? I was I was telling I was telling so there's a hijabi woman as a police officer and she's like she's like the nicest police officer I've seen and she's like no guy you it's it's all right as long as you're not doing you're bothering anybody and I'm like are those pink handcuffs like yeah nice could you
1:02:10 arrest me I kind of want to try those and she's like yeah uh I was I was I was messing with I was messing with Drake was like oh what he's like what crime can I commit this big handcuff and stuff like that. Anyway, the dude comes back and God Logic sees him sees him standing there and uh God Logic starts uh we're supposed to be brothers, my friend. He the type of guy he the type of one that would that would be up living in the house while WE OUT IN THE FIELDS, RIGHT? HE STARTS going off on the dude like that and it would guy that was one of the when you see god like when you see Avery go into like uh that mode, it's it's I don't know is one of the funniest things I've ever seen in my
1:02:55 life. But I got that recorded, guys. I got that on I got that on camera. I'm waiting for them to release the debate with the guy and then I'll take a I'll take a clip of him debating the guy and I got the footage of police coming and then the uh the aftermath where Avery just uh just destroyed this dude. >> Oh, >> I got it too. I got it recorded on my GoPro. >> Avery was saying, "We gave you a chance to prove this." He pointing to the sign, but you lied. and then you snitched. >> And uh it was it was seriously funny. And the funny thing is at some point um so L was debating this this this young guy or not debating actually have having a very nice conversation with this with this kid who was asking questions about Christianity and I'm recording her and
1:03:41 then um I hear noise behind me and the guy is um the guy has his phone out from his vehicle and just is just taking photos of everybody who is there and I thought that's funny. So, I had to abandon that conversation that El was having, turned toward him and picked my phone up and started like uh pointing at him with my phone and then he turns toward me and uh starts recording me or taking a photo of me and I approach him and then he actually dumps a bunch of uh some some yellow drink out of or he he pours a bunch of yellow drink out of his car window in front of me just to offend me for some weird reason. And then as we are about to leave, he's like, "Hey, you
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