What is the True Church? What does the Bible have to Say about this? Sam Shamoun Explain

Brief Summary

This video addresses a question about the necessity of being part of a church and whether a non-denominational church aligns with biblical teachings. It argues that the Bible emphasises the importance of church membership and submission to spiritual leaders. The video also asserts that Jesus established a specific church, not a non-denominational one, and that the church founded by the apostles in the first century is the true preserver of truth.

  • The Bible mandates church membership and obedience to spiritual leaders.
  • Jesus established a specific church, not a non-denominational one.
  • The church of the apostles is the foundation of truth.

Questions

Rice, a former Protestant who lost his faith but recently returned, questions whether it's sufficient to have a personal relationship with Christ, live by the Bible, and attend a non-denominational church. He wonders if it's necessary to choose a Catholic, Orthodox, or other specific denomination.

Obey your leaders

The response begins by stating that the Bible itself necessitates being part of a church and submitting to its spiritual leaders. Hebrews 13:17 is cited, which instructs believers to obey and submit to their leaders, who watch over their souls. Disobeying or making their job difficult can lead to rebuke from God. The Bible mandates having a bishop or overseer.

Being unified

Hebrews 10:23-25 is referenced to highlight the importance of community and encouraging one another in faith. The passage encourages believers to hold fast to their hope, be unified, and provoke one another to love and good deeds. It stresses the importance of meeting together regularly as a family of faith, encouraging one another. Following Jesus means being part of a church, a body, a family with a leader.

Jesus builds his church/true church

Matthew 16:18 is quoted, where Jesus says he will build his church. This establishes that Jesus intended to create a church.

The church has the highest authority on Earth

Matthew 18:15-20 is used to illustrate that the church has the highest authority on Earth for Christians. If a member of the church sins against another, the issue should first be addressed privately. If that fails, one or two others should be brought along. If the member still refuses to listen, the matter should be brought before the church. If the offender refuses to listen even to the church, they should be treated as an outsider. The church's decisions are binding in heaven, meaning that practices and rules established by the church are recognised by God. When believers gather and agree on a decision affecting Christians, the Father will agree with their decision because Jesus is present where two or three are gathered in his name.

Did Jesus establish a non-denominational church?

Rice is asked if the church at the time of Christ was denominational. When Rice answers no, it's pointed out that Jesus has been building the church for 2,000 years, not starting in the 16th or 20th century when non-denominational movements arose. The multitude of non-denominational churches (over 40,000) suggests it's not what Jesus started.

Church of the apostles

1 Timothy 3:15 is cited, where Paul describes the church as the household of God, the pillar and foundation of truth. This means God preserves his truth and word through the church. The Holy Spirit empowers the church to protect, preserve, explain, and defend the truth. The church started at the time of the apostles. Rice acknowledges that his church started in the 20th century, meaning it cannot trace its origins back to the original church.

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0:00 You just got to make sure you're kosher. Rice, what's your background? Hey. Um, so I was raised uh Protestant and um I kind of lost my faith in my early 20s and late late teens, early 20s. Yeah. And uh I recently within the last year really uh and I'm 31 now. So, I I got back into my faith and I started reading my Bible more and uh going to church, but I didn't really think into it to the point where I I was like, should I be should I go to a Catholic church, an Orthodox church, or you know, a non-denominational church, which is where I go. But I just was wondering if it's like okay to just have a

0:46 relationship with Christ and try to live by the words in the Bible and go to a non-denominational church that is strictly okay by the word. You contradict yourself for two reasons. You say only relationship of Christ and go by his words but his words tell you you got to be part of the church. You're you're right. Yeah, you're right. Okay. Okay. So, number one, let me answer. The same Bible that you want to go by says you better be part of the church. You better be in submission to that spiritual leader that the Lord has appointed to be shepherd over the flock. Let me show you. So, you can't I'm not saying you someone can say, "Well, I just want to follow the Bible." Well, the Bible says you better be part of the church. Here, I'll show it to you and I'm going to answer it step by step what you said. Okay, watch here. All right,

1:33 let me show you the authority of the church. All right, there you go. Oh, let's go to 20. Okay, sorry. Hebrews 13:17. Obey your leaders and submit submit to them. Now, not your political leaders. So, I thought about that. Obey your leaders and submit to them, for they are keeping watch over your souls and will give an account. Let them do this with joy, not with sign, for that would be harmful to you. So, don't make it hard for the leader to watch over you. Because if you make his job miserable in watching over you, God is going to rebuke you when you stand before him. So, that's number one. That's the Bible. See, I'm following the Bible. Well, the Bible says you have to have a bishop, an overseer. And then it says this. Hebrews 10:23-2. Hebrews 10:23-25. Let us hold fast to

2:21 the confession of our hope without wavering. Let us be like-minded and unified and being zealous for our faith and not lose hope. For he who has promised us is faithful. And let us consider how to provoke one another to love and good deed. You see, it's a community. And in the community, you're going to have brothers and sisters who are going to encourage you to sin less and worship more. And you're going to do the same thing, not neglecting to meet together. You got to meet regularly as family as is the habit of some, but encouraging one another. And all the more as you see the day approaching. That's the Bible. Say, "Okay, I want to follow Jesus and his word." Jesus says, "My word says, where's your church? Where's your body? Where's your family? Where's your leader?" Okay, about here. Matthew 16:18. And I tell you, you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my

3:09 church. He's coming to build a church, and the gates of Hades will not prevail against it. Now, the buck stops where? What is the highest authority on earth for the life of a Christian? If you're a Christian, you love Christ. What's the highest authority that governs your life on earth? Right here, Matthew 18:15-20. If another member of the church sins against you, go and well, this translation is not as literal. Let me get you a better translation because it says members here. It says if your brother, brother means a member of the church. Yeah, let me stay with this. It's a paraphrase. It says if your brother, meaning a member of the church, your spiritual family, if a spiritual believer who's your spiritual brother sins against you, go and point out the fault when the two of you are alone.

3:56 If the member listens to you, you have regained that one. But if you're not if you are not listened to, take one or two others along with you. So every word may be confirmed by the evidence of two or three witnesses. If the member refuses to listen to them, where do you take him? Church. Yeah. And then what happens? And if the offender refuses to listen to even the church, let such a one such as a one be to you as a gentile and a tax law. Meaning the final decision church. And if it doesn't church, you throw him out as a gentile unbeliever tax collector. Okay, church is the highest authority for you on earth. But wait, let me finish. Look what he says about the church, not you. Truly, I tell you, he's talking about the disciples whom he's going to send out to build the church. Whatever you

4:42 bind on earth will be bound in heaven. Whatever you loose on earth will be loosened in heaven. When you form the church, when you establish the church, which as believers whom you're going to baptize, we're born of the spirit. And whatever you bind them to do, do this. Come Sunday, take Eucharist. It's bound in heaven. They got to do it. Whatever you free them from, well, you Gentiles don't need to get circumcised. The It there'll be something that heaven will free them from. Right? Again, truly I tell you, if two of you agree on earth about anything you ask, it will be done for you by my father. He's not about the leaders. He's saying when you gather together about a decision and a matter that will affect the Christians you come together, the

5:29 father will agree with the decision that you agree upon because of the spirit because Jesus says where for where two or three are gathered in my name, I'm there among you. Here you're told your relationship with Jesus, keeping his words means you got to be part of the church. You got to have a leader over you. Now when you say non-denominational, I'm going to ask you to answer the question, you're telling me at the time of Christ when he established the church, that church at the time of Christ was not denominational? Uh, no. I would assume no. You answered your question, brother. If you believe Christ is God and he is, and these are his words, he's been building the church for 2,000 years and didn't

6:14 start in the 16th century or in the 20th century because your non-denom non denominational movement started in the 20th century. And how many different non denominational churches are there? Pretty sure there's I saw someone say over 40,000. Too many of them. So that's not what Jesus started. And the final one for you, the truth will be found and preserved in the church established by the apostles in the first century here. 1 Timothy 3:15. Paul speaking. Paul speaking. If I am delayed, you may know how one to one ought to behave in the household of God, which is the church of the living God, which is the pillar bark, meaning

7:02 the foundation truth. Meaning how does God preserve his truth, his word and the church? Whom does the Holy Spirit empower to protect the church, the truth, to preserve the truth and explain the truth and defend the truth? The church. When did the church start? At the time of the apostles. Where's your church? Uh it's it's I think you said 20th century, right? So that means you cannot go back and connect yourself to the church. Yeah. So, you answered your question, brother. Yeah, that that makes a lot of sense.

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