⚡Control Grid, 170 SECRET Bunkers, Truth About Iran War w/ Catherine Austin Fitts

0:00 Between 1998 and 2015, there's 21 trillion of undocumentable adjustments. We would do a systematic look at the underground bases and see if we could calculate how much was spent. During the litigation, I was poisoned eight times. I had my house broken into. People tried to run me off the road. The digital control grid is an effort to use new technology to create complete 24/7 surveillance to provide carrots and sticks that literally control people and their behaviors around being outside the central banking system but being able to stay outside because you have so many fossil fuel resources. And what you're watching is a big war about whose channel the Iranian resources are going

0:45 to be flowing through. The laws and the systems are being put in place that make this possible. Literally, you're talking about an extraordinary kind of slavery that the world has never seen before. This is not far in the future. >> World War II is already happening. >> This is a house of cards and it is in the process of collapsing right now. >> You're going to see an economic crash the likes of which we've never seen. >> Hi folks, Canadian Prepper here. It's an honor today to be joined by Katherine Austin Fitz, former assistant secretary of housing and federal housing commissioner under President George W. Bush, founder of the Salari Report and a longtime investment banker, an independent analyst of finance,

1:30 government policy, and global power structures. She is widely known for her work on the emerging control grid as well as warnings about hidden infrastructure including underground bunker networks and how these systems may relate to power continuity of government and social control. And of course as a prepper wanted to get your opinion of this control grid as you call it that's being developed and how that relates to the Middle East crisis that's unfolding. Get your perspective on the Iran war. Thank you for coming out today. How are you doing? fine and thank you for having me. It's great to be on and it's uh you know I find your channel to be very useful. You know everything is so practical and useful. So I appreciate what you're doing. >> It's kind of pivoted towards information

2:16 because information now is a commodity which is why we bring people like you on because you obviously have a immense knowledge of the inner workings of the system and so what is the control grid from your point of view? So, so the digital the digital control grid is an an is an effort to use new technology, digital technology and and telecommunications to to create a system that can provide complete 24/7 surveillance and then use that information and that intelligence to provide carrots and sticks that literally control people and their behavior, can control their spatial movements. So you remember during COVID the lockdowns. >> Oh yeah. >> So if you you know if you try and go

3:03 more than 15 minutes from your home or uh you know it could be a distance we can turn off your car, we can turn off your electricity. We can change your money. We can turn off your money. So or or your money won't work you know outside a certain perimeter. So, so we're using electrical systems and financial systems and telecommunication systems to basically put you in an open air prison. It is essentially some people uh call it the panopticon. >> And I think that's a good description. A panopticon is a design of a prison where, you know, one tower can watch all the prisoners, but the prisoners can't tell what the tower is looking at at that moment. So, they have to assume they're being watched 24/7. That's an element of the ponopticon I

3:50 forgot about that there was a a one-way mirror of sorts. >> Yeah, it's a oneway mirror allseeing eye. And so you think that uh the the key to this is programmable money, correct? >> Yes. Yes. >> Can you just explain what that is for people? >> Right. So right now you and I use digital money. Most most of our money whether we're using a credit card or a bank account is digital. Um but but a dollar is a dollar, you know, whether a Canadian dollar, US dollar, a dollar is a dollar. Um programmable money embeds within the currency itself um controls. So we watched the Canadian truckers debanked, but that was the bank instituting a policy. It wasn't embedding in the software,

4:36 >> you know, different algorithms literally within the currency so that it could manipulate you based on what AI and software were tracking you doing as a matter of surveillance. Programmable money allows um very complex rule systems that can be tailored to you individually to be embedded in your money. And so rules as to what you can do and where you can go and how you can live can be literally embedded into an AI surveillance system and and work through your money to literally implement control of you and what you do and how you do. If you don't take the health care prescriptions we require of you, um, we can turn off your money. if

5:23 you don't agree to let us take your children and move them into a government boarding school where you know we determine what they you know how they live and what they learn uh we can turn off your money. So literally you're talking about an extraordinary kind of of slavery that the world has never seen before because it is so completely invasive. So help us like operationalize what that might look like because you you said something interesting about like geo fencing. So with this programmable money, I would only be able to spend my credits or whatever they'll be called within a a certain location and there could be perhaps various tiers.

6:09 >> Yeah. So I move you to a 15-minute city and you're not allowed to leave that 15minute city either ever or you know only is on Sundays or only on Saturdays. In other words, I can dictate a set of what you can and cannot do spatially in terms of how far you can roam and and if you your money won't work outside that whatever that rule system is, your money won't work outside that system. Or you can be punished and your money turned off completely if you try and and move beyond the limits that have been set for you. And we can turn off your car if you have an electric car. Your car won't work outside that area or we can turn it off or take it away >> or just drive you to the police station.

6:55 >> Right. Exactly. So, it seems like this this is a recipe for a a multi-tiered uh system to develop like a loyalty cast where certain people will be able to use currencies in different zones like maybe >> right but it it won't be a currency anymore. In other words, it's the end of currency, >> right? because it's it's simply a rule system and you can earn credits in the rule system and the rule system can apply all sorts of carrots and sticks. So if you're very very good you could get more credits if you're bad you know you could have your credits taken away. So, so the the big issue here, if you look at the world that we've grown up in, most of us have grown up whether

7:42 Canada, the United States, in a world where the bankers control monetary policy and the people's representatives control fiscal policy, which means the people's representatives set taxes and then determine how the money is going to be spent. Now, the bankers in the system can control what taxes are. If they want to raise taxes, they just take it out of your account. you have no control and and there's no need to to vote for representatives because the bankers can control it directly and they can decide how it's spent and if you don't like that they can turn off your money. >> Interesting. And and so how like I mean this seems like something that that's well into the future. Are we is there going to be a a a point when this becomes official? Uh like h how do we

8:28 get uh to there from where we are right now? like what are they doing? >> This is not far in the future. This is coming now. I mean, if you look at the debanking, you look at the control of credit cards, if you look at the new stable coins putting terms and conditions that say you're not allowed to buy, you know, you can't buy a bow and arrow with with circle until they there was a whole hole blue and they had to change their terms and conditions. But but this is here now and the most importantly the laws and the systems are being put in place that make this possible. So now is the time you we have maybe at most 2 years to do the things we need to do to prevent this from clicking in and going live. So when they

9:16 say it's 2030 and you have no assets, they're serious. They're creating a system where they can literally take all your assets including your kids. >> And so is there not going to be any universal uh currency that operates outside this system? Are we talking about gold? Are we talking about Bitcoin? >> You you don't in other words this you don't need a universal currency to implement this. You need everything on a distributed ledger. So if you look at the United States, >> you know, Larry Frink running Black Rockck saying he's going to move all stocks and bond or all stocks and bonds are going to be moved onto a distributive ledger that it's the distributive ledger technology that gives you the control you need. So um they've passed in the United States, they passed the Genius Act which creates

10:02 a pipeline from Treasury into every issuer stable coins from which they can implement a detailed rule system if they choose. So that's stable coins. The Clarity Act, which relates to digital tokens, which will be used to then move stocks and bonds and the rest of the financial market onto a distributed ledger, is still under negotiation, undergoing negotiations, and then the rules are going to have to be promagated. So this is they're planning on having stable coins ready to go by the end of the year. the proposed regulations are out and then the final regulations they're hoping to get by November, which means that piece which is essentially bank deposits and replacing bank deposits with stable coins is rolling out and then um the clarity act will follow presumably in

10:49 the next year. But what they're saying is they're going to move the entire, you know, over here you have several hundred trillion. And what they're saying is, okay, we're going to put that several hundred trillion dollars over here on distributed ledgers, which essentially give them the ability to make everything in the financial system programmable. You know, both your, you know, your payment, the money you have in payment systems currently in banks or your stocks and bonds and anything else becomes programmable. and subject to I mean this is why they're building all the data centers because to track and and customize rule systems for this many people requires mammoth amounts of data collection and and and calculations and

11:35 sort of the data you need for implementation. >> Yeah, this seems like a natural evolution from what we have now. And I always look at the example of, you know, people when they used to buy stocks, they used to have an actual stock certificate, but now you do it through like online banking and you don't actually have the stock certificate. You're kind of confiding in the bank uh as a IOU of sorts that they're going to have it on your behalf. And so this is a extension of alienating you further from I guess the the source of the transaction. I don't understand and I've tried to understand. I don't understand exactly how they're going to implement this. I listen to them describe what they say they're going to do, but it's very conceptual. So, for example, if I have a share of IBM stock in a Black

12:21 Rockck ETF, is the digital token I create going to be collateralized or legally connected to that stock or is it going to be separate? I >> I don't I don't see operationally how the linkages are going to work. What I do know is they're planning on this new market of digital tokens being traded 24/7 and the first proposals are proposed of massing massive amount of margin and leverage and so we could be talking about a whole new layer of financialization. You know, there are a lot of people in the financial world are saying, well, you know, the bubble is over because it's got to come to an end. And what what we're talking about is

13:06 creating a bubble machine much bigger than anything the world has ever seen. >> A whole new uh layer of derivatives on top of the existing House of Cards. >> Well, but here here's what's worse right now. um you know so Canada is consolidated into a very small you know large banking system but the US still has approximately 4,000 banks and those banks create credit by making loans and as long as they're well-run that's building growth without inflation it's circulating money on Main Street. What stable coins is proposing to do is suck all the money out of the local banks and move it into the treasury market where

13:52 it finances the war machine. >> Right. And so you're going to hear a giant sucking sound of money out of local economies all around the world if it works. And that's going to implode the small business and small farm economy. >> And can you explain stable coins to people in a very like simple dumb down way so we can understand it? A stable coin is a piece of crypto. So, a dollar of of stable coin, it's a crypto. It's on a distributive ledger, and that dollar has been invested in a in a short-term treasury bill. Okay? So, it's like using a little piece of a treasury bill as a currency. So I'm, you know, imagine if I bought a

14:39 treasury bill and I tore off a little piece and I used it to trade with. >> So I'm transacting using a tiny piece of treasury bill. And instead of putting my money in a bank and that bank circulating it in loans in the economy, I'm going to put it in the Treasury market where it's going to finance more central control. >> And so who do you think is, you know, behind this? Who is the the third rail or or the the fifth column here? Like what is the what is the driving force behind this? I mean is it just Larry thinking black rockck or is it some shadowy cabal like who's >> responsible for this or is it just a natural evolution of our monetary system? So I would say you know the bankers in uh in in the current system

15:28 you know essentially went through a process where they took over the the management of monetary policy and we've had a process now in the United States where the bankers have said look it doesn't work you know the balance of power of fiscal control by the people's representatives and monetary control by the bankers that system doesn't work. can't trust Congress and the people, you know, they'll just vote for more money for themselves, etc. So, so that system doesn't work. And so, now we're going to take over fiscal policy. And if you look at who's driving that, a couple things are driving that. one is what I would describe as the the the kind of people whose capital owns the central banks and directs central bank policy and um and

16:16 and so they're they work through the central bank bureaucracy and those are the people who have been driving the train. So the bank of international settlements for the last 1015 years has been running a process that basically said okay how do we use digital technology to re-engineer how the transaction systems work and they've been running that process for a long time. If you go to their website they describe it you know and that includes central bank digital currency. Now, there's been so much push back against central bank digital currency that in the United States, what they decided to do, because the Fed doesn't have legal authorization to do a central bank digital currency. Um, but also there's a lot of opposition to it. And so what they've decided to do is a public private partnership where

17:02 instead of the New York Fed issuing the central bank digital currency, the banks that own the New York Fed will issue stable coins and digital tokens and um and will get the advantages of not having public obligations that the central bank has. But still behind the scenes if you look at who's piping in the rule system this in this construct it's going to come through treasury. Um but because the government is totally dependent on on the bankers to keep the debt markets going it it's basically going to be controlled by the same people. And I if you want to understand the system I recommend a wonderful substack to you. If you come to Ceri, we have a

17:49 commentary called was Jeffrey Epstein the father of programmable money and the answer is yes. If you look at who has developed much of the um the development in the United States of of the distributed ledger technology you need to do all of this. you know, Epstein was a critical player in getting that prototyped and sort of off to a, you know, off to the or or getting the prototype phase happening and and financed. And that if you read our commentary, it points you to a Substack called the escape key substack that basically describes how Epstein working as an agent for the ROS shield network, which is part of the central bank equity

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19:20 out the link in the description below. And now back to the video. So, is this system that's coming, would you say that it's inherently nefarious or is it just that it could be weaponized kind of like anything? I suppose like is it that it cuz it seems like in some ways a kind of natural uh evolution but it it are you thinking that it's not the ideal uh monetary uh paradigm that we should be adopting into the future. >> So I think the natural evolution would be a thousand flowers bloom >> and what do you mean by that? >> Tight tight central control. What new technology should do is make the small guy more efficient, more productive, more effective, >> right? >> And so you should have a lot of very uh

20:09 high learning speed innovation, you know, sort of bottom up. That's not what's happening. This is very tightly controlled, you know, and if somebody is successful outside their lane, they get assassinated, their business gets destroyed. you know that's you know those are all hallmarks of a uh of a central governance system that's not based on meritocracy. >> So they see the evolution of technology moving towards decentralization and empowering the little guy and they're trying to get ahead of it by creating these systems that will actually do the opposite and allow for more centralized control. >> Right. they're well uh so I would say they believe they can always

20:54 improve and enhance central control by implementing this technology. So there's a wonderful book called the master switch by Tim Woo that I recommend to you about this and he describes the history of information technology. A new technology comes out and everybody says oh this is fantastic. Entrepreneurs take it. They do all sorts of prototyping and then all of a sudden woo everything consolidates, you know, and then the cycle starts again. But each time you go to more and more centralization and what you start to realize is, oh, there's a hidden hand behind this cuz this has been going on for hundreds of years. >> I mean, the emergence of AI is pretty scary in this respect, right? Because we're talking about supercharging all of these systems with this nebulous

21:43 artificial general intelligence uh which could afford them like nearly godlike u powers of surveillance and the ability to increase their own understanding of things and and keep that information esoteric. I know you talk about data centers as a means of surveillance, but how does AI play into all of this? So I don't think anybody knows. Um the question is can they control it? And I don't know if they can because the other possibilities it throws the whole system completely out of control, >> right? >> Do you know what I mean? And >> yeah, they lose control of it. >> They lose control of it. And here's the thing. At the root of this, I believe this is a spiritual warfare. So or a spiritual war. So you've got the demonic

22:29 on one side and the divine on another side. And the question is how many of us embrace the divine and how many embrace the demonic and how will that affect the AI because ultimately I believe it does. I I believe that you know that that computer mechanics are not separate from you know energy and plasma and how the universe works. you know the the the nature nature and nature's energy comes into everything and affects everything. So um uh you know I can't I can't tell you what will happen cuz I think AI is out of the box and out of control now. there's been an inability to properly manage and

23:17 regulate it and so it's it's going to go out of control and all bets are off about what could happen. I have no idea. >> It seems self-evident to me that if there was something that was that powerful, they would very likely not allow the public to have access to it and but they themselves might not be able to uh control it, of course. And so there's this kind of paradox of would kings create gods because the god might say well you shouldn't be king right so you know they might not even want to go over the push it to the limit of creating agi because it could potentially disrobe them >> I don't know in my experience they never let anything out unless they've got a way to control it but that doesn't you

24:04 know that's only my experience so far >> I guess that goes with the internet also >> right I mean they can always turn off the electricity Right. >> That's true. Yeah. And so, uh, you know, trying to, I guess, segue into the Iran situation because you you talk about this potential COVID 2.0 crisis that would be needed to usher in this great reset of sorts. And interestingly, Donald Trump today was vague posting. Um, he said something like, "The most powerful reset in history." That was the tweet. Nobody knows what it's in reference to, but it was in all caps, you know, the most powerful reset in history. What did you you think he's referring to? And and could you maybe elaborate on that? >> He's referring to the going direct reset. >> The the what? >> So, the central banks met in 2019 and

24:51 reviewed a plan from the Black Rockck Institute. And let let me step back. In 2018, I wrote a big wrap-up for Ceri called the state of our currency. And in it I describe um sort of the management of the reserve currency and the fact that every 80 to 120 years the central banks do a reset. Okay. And and we knew we were coming into a reset. It was time to have another reset. So I thought it was going to happen after the presidential election and then when COVID happened I thought okay we're going to do it before the presidential election. Anyway, so so um in 2019, uh again, August, it was August 2019, the central bankers met in Jackson Hall

25:36 where they meet every every summer and reviewed this plan called the going direct reset. And if you come to salary, we have a major piece that John Totus Titus wrote on the going direct reset and interviews about it, but also there's a summary piece that's public that can explain it. So the central bankers are doing what they do every 80 or 120 years. They're doing a reset. But the reason this one is such a big one is because digital technology instead of moving the reserve currency or flushing the reserve currency or changing the reserve currency, they're basically cancelling currency and going to a financial transaction system. Um and and that's what you know whether whether it's a public uh C you know CBDC or a

26:23 private CBDC like the states is planning on doing with stable coin and digital tokens you know it's programmable money and what we try to do at salary is we're working with states to pass legislation that put up guard rails on programmable money so it can't be used to destroy your you know your basic legal rights and and human and constitutional freedoms >> and and so putting on our tinfall hat for a second because everyone loves to do that. We're seeing this attack on the global energy infrastructure across the world. I mean, it could very well just be completely unrelated, but we're seeing, you know, oil refineries in Mexico blow up yesterday. It's happened in the United States. Uh there was something that happened. I believe it

27:10 was not the Suez. I don't think it was Was it the Suez or the >> It's the Panama Canal. Panama Canal, there was that explosion. >> We have obviously oil refineries going up every day in Russia, um, across the Middle East. >> Do you do you think there's something to that or is it just >> I think it's CO 2.0. I think they're destroying demand. >> Destroying demand. >> Yeah. Well, you destroy supply and you Yeah, you destroy but but so so what was co CO was a major shutdown of the global economy, right? In a way that destroyed demand. So by shutting down the energy, you're you're in the process of dramatically reducing economic activity. This time,

27:56 you know, you're raising energy prices dramatically, cutting supply, and at some point that's going to induce a major uh recession or depression. and and and it's going to be very uh harsh. So So you you know some countries are going to be advantaged versus others. So the harshness is not going to be evenly applied, but it's going to be very harsh on the small guys. The small guys don't have the capital or the access they need to endorse. So, if you want to keep consolidating small business and small farms up into, you know, large corporate ownership and create more billionaires, here's another chance to do it. >> Right. Right. Cuz that's what happened during CO. All the little guys got

28:42 basically choked out because they couldn't ride out the the crisis. And so, what is your read on the Iran war? What what is the central motivation behind it? Is it just controlling the waterways? Is it getting the oil? Uh, is it the Iranians were not playing into this global scheme? >> So, right. So, Wesley Clark after 9/11 said, "We're going to attack seven countries in 5 years." The seventh was Iran. That was the last one cuz it's the big one. >> There's a great scene. Did you ever see the movie Vice about Dick Cheney? >> No. >> There's there's a great scene where Cheney explains why they have to take Iran and and pal's disgusted with him. They're in the situation room and he says, "What's your exit plan?" and and Cheney turns to him and he says there is

29:28 none. Meaning we gota we got to take Iran and we got to occupy it. Now I think the goal is essentially stop the leakage so that you can implement the digital control system and and the western faction will be dominant in it. I mean, part of this is just who's going to be dominant, but I think the other thing is the way you get people to install your financial infrastructure is it's a condition precedent to getting energy. If you can cut off their energy, then they have to play ball. So would you say it's more about Iran trading in certain currencies that are outside uh the control of uh the US fiscal hegemony or is it more ado with the energy control

30:15 or is it maybe just both equally weighted as motivation? >> I would say it's leakage from the central banker's model. So, it's a combination of being outside the central banking system, but being able to stay outside because you have such a great uh source of I mean, you have so many fossil fuel resources and and great intellectual resources. I mean, you're talking about one the the Persians are the highest IQ. They and the Chinese have the highest IQs of anybody in the world. So, um, whether they're intellectually independent or energy independent and and not playing ball in the in the model, they're they're and and it, you know, here

31:01 here's the funny thing to understand. It's uh there's a great Substack that uh on the unbecoming Substack that just got published called the the house uh always wins. So, you've seen the Game of Thrones. Have you seen Game of Thrones? >> I never got into it. I mean, I'm familiar with it. So, so there's a uh you know there's a bank called the Iron Bank and and you constantly have different factions waring, but the bank is always on both sides and so the bank always wins. >> So So the war is real. You have two factions having a real war, but at the top the bank's going to win whoever wins right? >> Okay. And who who is that in this respect then? So I think in this respect you've got the Anglo-American alliance versus

31:48 um the brick coalition and the question is you know who's going to be middle management of what >> right cuz right now you have the Iranians saying that they want to either there's mixed reports but they want to trade in either their own currency the the yuan or uh uh cryptocurrency. They're saying that they want to charge these tolls through a different currency. >> Well, I think what they want is they don't want the Anglo-American alliance telling them how to live their life. I mean, >> ultimately this issue is about sovereignty. >> Yeah. >> But if you look at all these different countries, I can't talk about Iran, but certainly China and Russia are implementing the control grid internally themselves. They just want to be the boss of their own control grid. I I like

32:34 the the term you use leakage to describe this because while it is only a very small portion of the global you know currency uh exchange the global or foreign currency it still is something that could potentially snowball and you know if I'm in control I'm very concerned about things like that because uh you know as that old uh saying goes it's just a handful of people that can change the world, right? And that's where kind of where it starts. >> I'll tell you the great example. When I was um litigating with the Department of Justice, I spent a lot of time trying to understand narcotics trafficking, including by the intelligence agencies and um sort of officially sanctioned by

33:21 the US government. And uh there was a story about uh a narcotics trafficking operation at Mina, Arkansas when the Clinton uh when Clinton was the governor. And and it was a joint project between Bush at the National Security Council and and Clinton as a governor in Arkansas. And one of the things that happened, there was a woman named Linda Ives whose son was killed because he he and his friend accidentally bumped onto a narcotics deal and ended up getting killed. And here you have this lovely southern housewife who's just trying to figure out what happened to her son. And the next thing you know, she's got black

34:06 helicopters coming down on her head. And she can't fathom why all this money and power cares about her not being able to figure out what happened to her son, >> right? And so uh and then she got uh I think it was a former AG started to help her as her attorney and they were trying to illuminate the narcotics trafficking and corruption and money laundering going on in Arkansas, you know, and they kept peeling the layers back and it kept getting more and more dangerous and they're like, why why is this kid's death a major national security issue? Anyway, so so I was studying this and other stories like this and what I

34:52 realized is, oh, you can't let 20 soccer moms back narcotics trafficking out of one of 3,100 counties in America. Because if one county can do it, then another county can do it, and then another county can do it. And as they do it, it's going to be great for local business. It's going to be great for local real estate. the local guys are going to start to have nicer lives. They're going to start to make more money. And then the next thing you know, you've destroyed your model, right? So, what I discovered was that the the most powerful wars are channel wars. They want to keep making sure that things go through our channel. So, let's go back to CO.

35:39 You have all the small businesses shut down, but the publicly traded businesses are allowed to stay open and literally you had Andrew Sorcin on TV saying, you know, that's science. It's science that in a shopping mall, you shut down all the small businesses and the big box store stays open and the parking lot is packed for people going to the big box store. And that's science >> cuz the virus won't get you in the big box publicly traded store. Okay. So what are they doing? They're shutting down the small business and that way they can move all the market share into a business that's in their channel. Okay. And the Fed injects $5 trillion which makes capital available to businesses in

36:26 their channel to go buy the assets that these guys now have to sell. because I gotta sell my real estate because I've lost my income. I got to feed my kids, right? >> Yeah. >> So whether I'm moving assets to my channel or I'm moving market share and income to my channel, it's all about channel wars. I'm shutting down your channel and I'm causing all of your income and assets to move to my channel and and it's a channel war. And Yes. And that could potentially uh spread rather quickly. And so how do you think that that conflict is is going to

37:13 end? I mean, obviously you were in the Bush administration and you kind of seen how things worked with the Iraq war. How do you think this war ends? Do you have uh high hopes for the these peace talks or do you think that it's going to fall apart and it ultimately ends with boots on the ground? >> So, I don't think it's going to end until one side is severely decimated or uh you know, you have to I mean, if if you're the Persians, are you going to end a 6,000-y old civilization, you know, in this situ? No. I I think you're going to fight to the death. >> Mhm. >> Why would you allow yourself to be a

37:59 digital slave? >> Would you? >> Well, and they've already invested so much they wouldn't get this far only to throw in the towel. Now, it seems >> there are a couple of issues. So, so I'll get back to that. But here's the thing. If you're committed to this architecture and you can't afford Iran's leakage, are you going to give up? No. There's no I I don't see if you look at the positions of both sides, I don't see where there's a compromise that's possible. Now, it's interesting because one of the things it's interesting that Vance is leading the effort because I think one of the reasons the Iranians refused to uh to negotiate with Wickoff and um and Kushner, I suspect, and this is conjecture, I'm just guessing, is

38:45 that one of the reasons that Wickoff and Kushner are being used to negotiate is they're, you know, they're outside. Um, Woodco at at times has been a government special employees, but Kushner is completely outside of the disclosure. And that way they can they can negotiate on behalf of the Trump family interests for >> essentially kickbacks and grift. >> Yeah. >> And and I think the reasons the Iranians want advance is to shut that off. But sure enough, Whitoff and Kushner are going. So one of the sticking points here is going to be the graft. Now, um, when Trump came in, if you look at what the Iranians are asking for, it's much worse from Trump's point of view than

39:30 what Trump had when he tore up the last agreement. In other words, you know, he tore up the last agreement because he said it wasn't good enough. Now he's he's, you know, his his his negotiating possibilities are all much worse than what he tore up. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Now, one of the rumors about the last deal was when they when he tore it up, all the the Iranians were demanding their kickbacks, the private kickbacks that went to various government leaders back. And that's why Carrie kept running over to try and negotiate because nobody wanted to give their kickbacks back. The first mistake that probably 50% of people make when they get into prepping is they run out and they find the

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41:02 in the description for 15% off. A lot of my viewers are interested in hearing your your thoughts and I know this has been somewhat taken out of context and sensationalized with the continuity of government and the the bunker stuff. And I I hope you can kind of demystify that because your theory is that there's been this money that's been sequestered from various programs. It's been channeled into this underground network of of bunker systems. what I said on Tucker Carlson. So, we were talking about the 21 trillion that's missing from the US government. >> Okay. >> Uh from government accounts between 20 uh between 1998 and 2015. There's 21 trillion of undocumentable adjustments.

41:49 Government is in massive violation of the financial management laws. On the bailouts, there was 29 trillion that was lent or given. That's 50 trillion total. And then going direct, there was 5 trillion. That's 55 trillion. And that's before we get to quantitative easing. So needless to say, there is massive amounts of money missing from the federal government. And and I would be happy to talk about sort of the 10 likeliest places that money went, but it's many different places because $55 trillion is a lot of money and it goes to a lot of places. Okay. So, so um now I was speaking about the 21 trillion missing from the government accounts and a researcher who I know said look the

42:35 most of it was spent on the underground basis and I said no I don't believe that you know if you look at where it was likely to go where money is showing up and turning up I don't think it's all going to the underground basis but I made a decision with um I had a there's a brilliant researcher in our network and he and I decided we would do a systematic look at the underground bases and see if we could calculate or estimate how much was spent on underground bases just as a mental exercise. >> Yeah. >> And we concluded that a majority of the money had not gone to finance underground bases. So, you know, you see all over the internet headlines that I

43:21 said 21 trillion went to underground bases. I said the opposite. I said, "No, I concluded that it didn't." Okay. >> Well, even if it was a fraction of that, I mean, you know, >> so I >> So, so here's what we concluded. Um, we first of all, there are plenty of underground bases that are public knowledge. They're the government discloses that they build underground bases because for continuity of government, they need underground bases. That's the intelligent thing to do. If you're the government, you're supposed to be prepared for the worst case, right? So, you're supposed to have underground bases. They have underground bases. That's all disclosed. Nothing wrong with that. Um, so we took all the ones that have been publicly disclosed and then we tried to collect up all allegations, whether it's from

44:07 whistleblowers or, you know, truckers who are driving trucks down into underground bases. you know, there's a lot of deliveries that go into these facilities. Anyway, so we we collected up all the allegations we could find all around the world as well as the work of all the researchers like Richard Sa Souder and Richard Dolan on underground bases. I have a great interview at Saleri on Richard Dolan who basically reviewed all of Richard Ser's work and sort of republished it. Um anyway, and that's an excellent thing that will really help you understand the phenomenas. Anyway, we uh I've traveled extensively by car in the United States, so I know the United States very well geographically. So, we went state by

44:53 state for 2 years, a couple hours uh a week, looking at all the allegations, all the geography, where the military bases, everything else. >> And we made a wild, you know, I used to call it on Wall Street, it's a wild ass guess. We made a wild guess that that probably there were at least 170 underground bases or facilities in the United States now. And and I think um I think obviously whatever number there are, they're expensive, but I don't begin to think they represent a major portion of the of the 21 trillion. Now the question is what's going on in them and how much does whatever the operations in those bases um and and the related underground

45:40 transportation systems how much you know does that cost because one of the things I learned working on that project which should be intuitively obvious is building an underground base costs one thing building it and keeping it and maintaining it secretly costs many multiples. Secrecy is very expensive to engineer. >> Yeah. because this would involve thousands of people to have ironclad NDAs that they don't disclose any information which seems there would be thousands of people living double lives out there. >> Oh, I I don't think it's thousands. I think if you look at all the black budget and secret projects, it's millions. And it's very interesting. Um, we have a wonderful

46:26 uh interview on the solar report that we did with a former retired Department of Justice attorney about secrecy and how it's engineered and it's very helpful to understand. >> What is that called? >> It's called the many faces of secrecy with Amy Benjamin and I recorded it in 2018 as I was finishing up the state of our currencies. And it's uh it it really I'll tell you how I found out about this. I was I was interviewing with Lawrence Wilkerson who was um had been PAL's chief of staff and um you know and does a lot of commentary and uh Wilkerson called me and he said uh he was at uh I think George Mason University was teaching national security what whatever his university he

47:13 said I just read a peerreviewed paper on how secrecy is engineered. It's one of the best things I've ever read. I can't tell you about it now until it gets published. But as soon as it's published, I'll let you know. But as soon as it's published, you have to do an interview with the author because this is an amazing piece. It'll really help your subscribers understand, you know, and he he was Pal's uh chief of staff uh or worked for Pal over at the Joint Chiefs, you know, and state. So Wilkerson really understands a lot about how secrecy happens. And anyway, but but Amy Amy's piece that she published on, you know, it's a peer-reviewed study of how secrecy is engineered and it's very very good. >> Yeah. and and to to muse about like the

47:58 government building these subterranean complexes is not necessarily a lot of people are are making claims that well this means that there's a you know apocalypse event that they know about that they're preparing for and that may be the case but it might just be prudent contingency planning also in that you know they know that there could potentially be a big war someday or something and this is why they're I mean a lot of people will of course take issue with the fact that they're not invited to that party. Understandably so. There's no uh uh >> I wouldn't take issue because you don't necessarily want to be underground with them. >> There's a lot of That's true. Yeah. >> I'll bet you dimes to donuts that you would take your chances in the woods instead.

48:44 >> Yeah. In the wasteland. Yeah. So are are you at all though like concerned for your own like in in an exploration of something like that? Were you ever concerned for your own safety? Like that you're maybe >> during the litigation I was poisoned eight times. I had my house broken into. I was run off. You know, people tried to run me off the road. I had all sorts of, you know, I had serious physical harassment. I had a bicycle accident which I think was engineered by Directed Energy. We had electronic weaponry used on us. I mean I I could go on and on. We have a series at Larry called Deep State Tactics 101 where I describe all the tactics over 11 years that we had to deal with. So and there

49:30 were many times I was sure I was dead. I I thought I'm dead in 5 seconds or 5 minutes. I'm not going to I finally am not going to make it out of this one. And what I discovered was um you know there is only one thing uh it's interesting I if you if you look at risk management in this environment what I will tell you is you should focus your efforts and your time on attracting spiritual protection. There's not enough money and resources and time in the world to protect yourself against the bad guys. What you need to do is get in good with the good guys. >> Does that make sense? >> I think a lot of people assume that, you

50:16 know, people who work in and around Washington have like insider information or that they're privy to like classified information, but the way you're you're talking here is that there's this whole >> compartment Yeah. It's very compartmentalized >> running things. >> It's very compartmentalized. >> Right. So I, you know, I I I've gone back in. There's a real effort to keep me out of boardrooms. But when I get in a boardroom and I can teach people because everybody knows their little lane, they don't integrate. They don't see the big picture. And you know, I mean, people will hear that and they'll say, well, you know, directed energy weapons, I mean, it sounds fantastical, but I mean, they just did take out Baduro's security team with a discombobulator machines. I mean, it's not beyond the realm of possibility that

51:03 something like that happened. It did. I guess the question would be, well, are were they just trying to scare you or were they actually trying to take you off the road? >> So, I can I I'll make a guess. I think the directed energy weapons was simply, you know, what they want is they want you to look like you've lost. They want you to fail. Okay. So, they tried to falsify evidence that basically if they had succeeded would have put me in jail. But but when that didn't happen, I think, you know, between the poisoning and the various physical harassment, the goal was to cause me to go mad, commit suicide, >> or just be ineffective and fail. >> And even when you come on and disclose these things, you know, to to the

51:49 average person, they're kind of like, "Oh, yeah, sure." Right? Like they they're not going to take it seriously. >> Actually, when I talk about it, they take it seriously. When I first started to talk about this weaponry, I pulled out a memorandum of understanding between the Department of Defense and the Department of Justice proposing the Department of Justice use non-lethal weapons developed by DoD and their contractors for domestic application. So, I didn't talk publicly. Whenever I talk publicly, I use serious documentation unless I'm engaging in conjecture and then I tell you it's conjecture. But um you know I'm an investment banker. So lawyers have hard evidence that they use you know to produce results in a court of law.

52:36 Investment bankers have to trade with 1 and 2% knowledge. So I like to help people understand what's going on where there's still time to do something about it. and and and I do everything I can to pull in that kind of documentation, but I'm not trying to reach everybody. I'm trying to reach the people who will take action to make sure their family is successful in this environment as it really is. So, one of my favorite quotes from Steve Bartlett, he says, you know, uh you want to face an uncomfortable truth to avoid an uncomfortable future. if if you don't face an uncomfortable truth, you're buying in to an uncomfortable future. So, it's really important to me that you have the knowledge you need to take action while

53:22 there's still, you know, time for you to do something about it. And I've looked at at your channel. That's exactly what you're doing. Now, you've got a different focus than I have, but it's the same thing. We want people to take action, you know, and make themselves more resilient so that they don't get run over by this. And so in your in your research, which sounds very extensive, I have to ask, of these 170 locations, I'm not sure what you can disclose, but was there any that really stood out as being quite like significant? No. I I was always intrigued by Dolan's explanations of the ones where the submarine could literally go through a tunnel and come up in a

54:07 lake or you know the the docking base for the submarine was underground under the land. So the the under sea tunnels and their entrances. >> Interesting. So, you think that there's that there's connections between the ocean and inland? >> I I don't know, but presumably given what Dolan described as the potential for underground, you know, I could see a submarine coming in underground and then connecting to an underground transportation system. So that literally you could get out of the submarine and and go someplace, you know, on land, so to speak, without anybody knowing. >> Yeah. Because I mean, a lot of people, you know, when they hear this, they're

54:54 that's a cause for alarm that well, they're they're doing all these things in secret. They must anticipate that something is going to happen. They must have some tangible understanding of what might be the reason to justify such an extensive network. You can have underground facilities to deal with different kinds of geohysical catastrophes. That's one reason. But another reason you could do it is because you want to stage operations and keep them secret, right? >> So, so that's another reason. There are multiple reasons why you would you might want to have underground bases. So, um, you know, Switzerland has implemented an entire underground transportation system to move their mail around cuz they don't want the satellites being able to, you

55:41 know, to map out and surveil everything they're doing through the postal system, >> you know, in terms of self reliance, and I know that's something that before we started here, you you said was important for you. What can people do in order to insulate themselves from this control grid that is emerging uh besides just going out and living in the country and disconnecting from the internet? >> Right. So, so I'm not you know I I'm the last person to disconnect from the internet. >> Right. >> So, um uh as I said, we've got a PDF at Larry called Coming Clean and it's an article we've been writing and rewriting since 2004. We just did another iteration and published it in hard copy as well. So, but you can get the PDF and

56:28 download it for free or print it out. And basically, it's basically saying, you know, the system is like a tapeworm. And the way a tapeworm works in your body, it injects a chemical into you that makes you crave what's good for the tapeworm. And it's made you weaker and weaker, and you need to detox. And so, here are all the things that you can do to get the tapeworm. And it's injections out of your mind, out of your life, out of your home, out of your pocketbook, out of your family, out of everything. Just clean it out in a way that makes you stronger and more powerful. And and as you become more powerful, you deny food to the tapeworm, the you know, the tapeworm, the parasite gets weaker. So what we're saying is cut off the energy

57:15 you're giving to the parasite and do it in a way that makes you stronger. And as you do that, it helps all the people around you do the same. And if enough people will do it, if those kinds of changes can go virally, starting with use cash, it can make an enormous difference. Cuz what I'm saying is leave their channel. Leave their channel. Go move your time, your energy, your money into channels that are run by people who really care about you instead of who are poisoning and killing you. Stop supporting your enemy. So, and and you know, everybody looks at it and thinks, well, you know, those are just lifestyle choices. No, they're not. Our our support of their channels is what's

58:01 giving them power. We have the power to stop building the control grid by not going to work in building it, by not financing it and investing in their stocks and bonds. On and on and on. We have the power to say no, just walk out. Seems though that that becomes increasingly more difficult as access to any part of society requires compliance on some level. like you need a phone now to you know go to a restaurant cuz that's where the menu is or you know thousands of examples like that where unless you >> so so this is not this is not zero or one in other words I'm not saying divorce yourself from society and go off and live in the woods and eat beans what I'm saying is you know use cash whenever

58:50 possible you know be discerning about using digital technology that could come with neuro warfare So, I'll give you an example that men always cringe when I talk about. I think one of the major delivery mechanisms for neuro warfare is porn. And if you look at the statistics, 90% or more of men in America and 60% of women, I think, use porn. Guess what the average age is when when kids start using porn? >> I presume it's younger than it used to be. >> 11. >> Yeah. >> 11. and you're talking about something that's delivering, you know, entrainment technology and subliminal programming designed to get you addicted. Okay? And God knows what kinds of programming you're ingesting in

59:35 the middle of that, right? So you have the if you study addiction and you look at all the efforts to get kids addicted to something whether it's liquor or drugs or sugar or video games or porn or you know gambling or whatever. I mean these are weapons of war. These are not just lifestyle choices. These are weapons of war. We have the ability to see the game, withdraw from hurting ourselves in the game, and then changing the game. Well, I'm not very optimistic. I'm pretty black pill when it comes to that stuff because there ain't many people using cash and even me who knows all this

1:00:22 stuff, it's just inconvenient to use cash, right? like it's you got to, you know, count out the change and you got to hand over the, you know, pay it just you got to carry it around and it's liability and so everything in this system is encouraging you to the contrary. It just seems inevitable that we that we're moving towards that and there's just going to be a few holdouts in the end, maybe like me and a few other people living in the woods or off-rid uh who are going to be outside of that that uh systems clutches. So, I I understand why you feel the way you feel, but I've gone back through history and tyranny always it always looks hopeless and then something happens and freedom wins

1:01:08 >> and and it always looks hopeless and it always comes down to like a tiny number of people who just say no and insist on freedom. So, I I think that's going to happen again. And I don't think it's because we're going to defeat the control grid. I think the control grid is going to defeat itself because it's so out of alignment with the fundamental nature of life and how the universe works energetically and spiritually. I just think it's going to, you know, all these guys, the the people who rise at the top are psychopathic and they are, you know, they have embraced the demonic for the most part and they're going to kill each other. >> Yeah. They don't they don't have a culture that can can uh achieve the

1:01:56 transition that they're hoping to achieve. >> It's like the oros snakes eating its own tail and eventually they they will devour themselves. That's a that's a very optimistic uh way to end this this interview. I think Katherine, I want to thank you for coming out and uh where can people find more information about you and what you do? I know you have a YouTube channel. Is it Solari Report? Yeah, we have a website, saleri.com. Be careful. We are inundated with imposters. So, I don't know if you have an imposttor problem, but we have a major one and we're working. >> I'm sure I got all kinds of deep fake AIs out there. >> Yeah. So, anyway, salary.com. I would start there. And you can identify all our social media through our website. >> Well, thanks again for coming out and we look forward to speaking with you again.

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