0:00 I believe there are almost no grounds for divorce. >> Hold on, sister, because according to the Bible that we all know Okay, but where is that verse? [music] This is sexist. The Lord has given preferential treatment to men. >> Hold on. I want preferential treatment to sin just like my husband. He's [music] equal but unfair. My husband has got a past. He's a six-time ex-felon. He's an ex-meth addict. Men like that have to be brought to their knees. I just started speaking a [music] prayer over him and I said, "I rebuke those lies. I command all those lying spirits to come off of his mind now. You cannot speak this way to this man of God. You cannot speak that way to my husband." What I did not know is that there was a fully loaded meth pipe next to his bed. He said to me, "I felt claws release their grip from my head." I had a wife
0:46 say that her pastor told her to stop praying for her husband's deliverance and the restoration of their marriage because it was witchcraft. They're doing what they want to do. Praying for them is a form of manipulation. He looks for people who are going to intercede on behalf of the will of the spirit. If a husband does not honor his wife, his prayers will be hindered. My situation. Everyone was like, "You just need to walk away." Move on. Find a good man. These are Christians telling me this. These are prophets. God does not want his daughters to be abused. You deserve a good man. The Holy Spirit began to teach me about who a wife actually is. >> Come on. Genesis 2:18, "I shall make for him a helpmate." What I've shared about ezer kenegdo kenegdo means perfectly
1:33 paired with, matched to, and corresponding to. He picked you to go to war for your specific husband. He knew your husband was going to fall. He's actively hurting her. You need to get to safety. It is not okay to stay in situations [music] of abuse ever. We are not a match for our husband's demons. If you've been warring for your marriage for longer than a season, Leviticus 26 famine happens [music] because of idolatry. And so the Lord said to me, "Narcissists need someone to worship them. Idolaters need someone to worship." Okay. Is that a dialogue? I have been praying to you on my face sometimes every hour for [music] this marriage for 3 years. How am I an idolater? He said to me,
2:20 "Who did you think about most during the day though? Whose opinion mattered most? I fully intend to restore your marriage, but I am not answering the prayers of an idolater." Oh, wow. >> I do not want to ever translate [music] this book so that it matches what my flesh wants. So you were running from a chaotic marriage. From God's perspective, you were running from his miracle. He understands. He sees the pain. He sees it. But you have a hardened heart. He cannot move over you if you have a heart of stone. We are using our mouths to birth or to abort Ooh. >> heaven's will. And the Lord reveals himself to me. This is not a podcast. This is a deliverance ministry. God is going to deliver just
3:06 as many, if not more, here than he does inside of church buildings. [music] >> Ona, you got to keep giving yourself over to it. It's proving it to you over [music] and over. >> And the weightiness of your anointing, the Lord says thousands will be delivered. I'm grateful to be here today with my sister. Some of you guys may know her. Others of you she may be new, but let me tell you something. What God has done in her life, in her marriage, is something spectacular. If you watched the episode I did with her before, she was the lady with the cowboy hat. Dope cowboy hat. I wish I had that hat. >> [laughter] >> Man, she talked about coming out of New Age and how God transformed her life, but uh in the latter part of the episode, she mentioned how she was contending for her marriage. She was not seeing the the
3:52 the light of day yet, but she was in the dark Yeah. of her marital situation. And she was explaining on in that conversation as well as to me afterwards that I believe that God's going to restore my marriage. And she was just she just believed it. And I'm going to let her tell her own testimony, but beyond that God has and he already he's he planted the seed for this way before now. Way before now. So I just want to welcome my sister back again to the We Need to Talk podcast, Lorna Von. Thank you so much for being here. I am so excited. >> Oh, man. >> I am so so excited. I was saying to somebody I
4:37 think it was my dad, um that the Lord, you know, we both thought that last time I was here, I was here to talk about my New Age to Jesus testimony, but that was just all a setup. Oh. >> For the last part. Because I don't know if you remember this, but we were we were trucking along talking about like my whole testimony thing, and then out of nowhere you said, "So so tell me about your marriage." or something. It was and I was like, "Is he honestly asking me this right now?" >> Oh, I did. >> You did. And I was like, "What which Okay, my marriage? Okay. All right." And and I knew like the Lord had said to me, "You are going to speak about this publicly before it comes to pass. You
5:25 are going to declare it. You're going to proclaim it. You're going to show the faith that's required to stand for a total miracle because the story is a miracle. It is a miracle. It is only by the hand of God that our marriage is restored. And And when you asked me that question, I knew this was the moment." >> Wow. And I was like, "Okay, here here we go." And I think I said something like, "So, I don't quite know where my husband is at the moment." >> [laughter] >> Cuz I didn't. >> Yes. And you know, I I haven't talked to him in about 3 months. Um I don't even know if he wants this. But I know that God does.
6:11 And it's going to happen. It's going to happen. I know it like I know anything in my life. I know this is going to happen. And we sat down January 29th, and he came home May 5th. Wow. So, I I So, for 6 and 1/2 months, I contended and [snorts] I warred and I did all the things not knowing. I mean, it could I was prepared for years. I was prepared to go years. Um but I knew like I knew like I knew that this marriage and cuz he said to me, "I'm going to teach you how to war for your marriage miracle." And when And he did. The Holy Spirit
6:57 took me through a a what I call the holy pattern for how God's glory falls on a marriage. And then he said, "When you get your marriage miracle, you are to go teach wives what I taught you." And that's what I'm doing. And I didn't really start for a minute because I had a marriage to like reacclimate to. >> Yes. Yes. Which that whole story is just is I I I it's a Paul on the road to Damascus story. It is a Saul to Paul conversion. He literally had a road to Damascus moment. >> Mhm. Um which the Lord told me to pray for. That's the one specific thing he said pray for a road to Damascus moment
7:44 and I know there's a lot of reasons why. Um but you know, what I would say to women out there who have a prodigal husband, road to Damascus moment is how the these men, you know, my my husband has a he's got a past. He's a six-time ex-felon. He's an ex-meth addict. He's he's got a he's got a past. And men like that have to be brought to their knees. Wow. They have to be brought to their knees. They they will walk to the brink of death. That's just how they're kind of wired, you know, cuz they're warriors. They're just warring for the wrong army, right? They're not afraid of death. It's the it's kind of a problem, but it's also it's like if the Lord can
8:30 get them, then that's that's a that's a warrior, right? And that's why the enemy is after those types of men. >> Wow. He is after those types of men because they are generals in his army. And so and I am seeing so many marriages with with where the husbands are like this. They're falling back into addiction. They're falling back into things that they had left alone like for years. There is something happening right now >> Come on. in kingdom marriages. The enemy is coming after husbands and he's using their old um sin, their old weakness and he's bringing it back. And it is it is crazy how many wives
9:15 come to me and say, "I don't get it. I've been married 15 years. My husband has suddenly changed. He's doing all these things. He's into all kinds of addiction. He's into, you know, pornography. He's having all this stuff." And and I'm hearing it over and over and over and over again. They think that they're alone. Huh. But it is it is not it's a trend. So anyway Huh. men like that, prodigals like that. Like look at the prodigal son. Look how far he had to go. He had to end up in pig slop. >> Mhm. Before he came to himself, right? That's That's how these That's what these men They got to And And the father in heaven knows his son. Wow. And he
10:02 knows >> Huh. Here's the thing. This When When things kind of fell apart with us at They didn't fall apart. They They It's like a nuclear explosion. I mean, we we We finally, you know, separated to 6 hours away from each other and went no contact and it was what we needed because I kept trying to save my husband. Huh. I kept trying to save him. I just needed to tell him that he needs to do this. I just need to show him that this is the problem. I just need to help him see this. I just need to help him see that. I mean, I at one point printed out scripture verses and laid them on her bed. [laughter] Okay? Mhm. Maybe if he sees them in like really big
10:47 letters. I mean, it was it was I was doing God's job. >> Woah. >> Okay? And And God, his father, my husband's father in heaven, was like, "This man is going to have to fall, and you are not going to be willing to watch that." And so, I'm separating you. And he told me this in prayer when we finally, you know, blew apart with that nuclear explosion, something that happened that just blew us apart. And the Lord said to me, "He's going to come to within an inch of his life." You are not just contending for a marriage. Mhm. You are contending for a man's soul and his literal life. Wow.
11:33 And he was right. I didn't know exactly what that meant. I had some ideas, but I didn't know exactly. But when when Andrew came back, he told me that he had had a very serious relapse into meth, which these days is laced with fentanyl. Well, >> He was he was This is a little graphic, but he was passing baseball-sized blood clots. Okay. He was having such serious seizures that he was I mean, it was he was he was not going to make it. And um he was in total denial
12:18 about that. He was like, you know, last time when I did meth, you know, years ago. I mean, he when we met, he had 6 years clean. 6 or 7. He was he'd been out of prison for about 4 years. He was rebuilding his life. He had a construction company. He was building he was things were great. Mhm. And um the enemy came for our marriage on the day of our wedding. We came home from our wedding and there was a huge snake coiled in the middle of our double front doors. And I was still in new age at the time. Mhm. >> He he wasn't. He's he was a believer when I met him. And so even though we were on opposite
13:04 sides of the truth, we I we looked at each other and we were like, "We're in trouble." Huh. And 28 days later >> [snorts] >> he had a freak accident with uh on a Banshee 350, like one of those off-road, you know, four-wheelers, whatever, and broke his neck in two places. And should have died. Should have been paralyzed. >> Yeah. And But he actually stood up with a broken neck because he he was thrown 8 ft high, 32 ft across cuz we came back and measured it. >> [snorts] >> Landed on his forehead. Crumbled on the ground. And he said he couldn't move. He tried to move and he couldn't move and he heard the Lord visibly say, "Stand up."
13:53 And he said, "I knew that if I did not stand up, I would be paralyzed." So, he stood up with a broken neck and he walked out to the road where I met him with the truck. And we went to the ER that night and the doctors and nurses came all around him and they and they were like, "You literally are a miracle. You should be dead. You should be paralyzed. Like, how are How you're walking? I mean, it just So, that I mean, the enemy tried to kill him and that's not the first time. He has crazy stories of times he should have Oh, he should have He should have been dead like eight times. His stories are crazy. But what happened
14:39 is he already had You can imagine somebody like that, the life of trauma that they have, right? So, he came into the marriage with a with a healthy dose of stuff, right? That traumatic brain injury, which we counted, it was like the ninth that he had had. He I don't know what how else to describe it. I believe that the spirit of Leviathan, because that's what the Lord showed me later in a in a series of a dream and all kinds of crazy stuff, came into this man and he became a monster. He be He That's That's his words. Those were That's That's what he said later when he when he when all this was redeemed and we talked about
15:25 those 3 years. He almost there were things that he did not even really like remember. Mhm. And now when you're dealing with someone with the spirit of narcissism because that's what that is, right? They love to gaslight you. Right? I didn't I didn't say that like no I didn't I didn't but I didn't mean it that way though. That's you. You're interpreting it that way. It's crazy mental. >> Mhm. Gymnastics. Insanity. >> Yeah. Um but that's not that's not how he was saying it then. He was like I truly genuinely don't remember. But if I said that I cannot imagine how that must have felt. I am so sorry. See this is the thing. Women are told especially if they have a narcissistic
16:13 husband that that man's not going to change. And they might as well leave. But I submit to you Paul on the road to Damascus. Come on. Because when he was saved scales fell from his eyes. >> Come on. There it is. And scales are the calling card of Leviathan, right? Scales so tight no air can get between and the scales are his pride and that is what Paul Paul was so gaslit about truth and reality and who God was that he was on his way >> Come on. to capture Christians and drag them to Rome to be tortured and killed. And if you had asked him the min- This
16:58 is why I say to wives all the time and they're like but my husband is like, you know, living with another woman and my husband has abandoned his kids and my husband is all these horrible terrible yes things. Like I totally agree with you, right? If you had asked Paul the second before God ambushed him on the road to Damascus, do you think there's anything wrong with your behavior? He would have been like, "No, nothing's wrong at all." "Do you think God likes it when you when you bind Christians and drag them to Rome to get killed?" And he would have said "100%." 100%. He loves it. Mhm. He was wrong. He was so dead wrong because he was so deep in his flesh and his soul, he had almost sold his soul >> Mhm. that
17:44 you can't trust a man who's that demonized. While you keep watching, click the subscribe button. [music] I'll wait. Nah, seriously, subscribe right now. Also, like and share this video. The more you like, [music] share, comment, and engage with this video, the more we're able to produce content just like this. [music] And also, we got this merch got this merch. The link is in description. If you want to support [music] the channel, you can also donate. That's also in the description. The more you guys support, the more we're able [music] to produce content just like this. Thank you again. Peace. You can't you can't trust what is coming out of his mouth. You're just talking to a demon. But the Lord, I believe, knew that spirit man in Paul was crying out for
18:30 help. And Paul talks about this in Romans 7. The The good that I would do, I do not do. Right? The evil that I would not do, I do. He's got two eyes there. >> Mhm. He's got his flesh >> Mhm. and he's got his spirit man. Mhm. And what I believe the Lord showed me is that my husband's spirit man desperately desperately was crying out for help. Have mercy. >> Right? Would he have said that to me at the time? Absolutely not. >> No. But the Lord has made wives, which is why I have this He has made wives when he said Eve is
19:16 Adam's ezer kenegdo, right? Help meet for him. That word ezer is a military term. And it is used half the time in the Old Testament to describe God delivering or protecting the Israelites from their enemies. Okay? This is who Eve was to Adam. My goodness. Right? And so And so the Lord was was basically saying, "Your husband is so demonized, he cannot even intercede on his own behalf. He He can't do it. He's so gone just like Paul. Paul wasn't walking around, you know, headed headed to the
20:03 to to Damascus thinking, 'I don't know if this is really good idea.'" Hm. He was so far gone. So, anyway, all of this is to say that I These are the types of marriages that are coming to me. These are the types of wives. It's not like, you know, we're just kind of unhappy. It's like It's total hell. Wow. And the Lord said, "Pray for a road to Damascus moment for your husband." And so I did. I prayed that prayer I don't know how many times, how many different ways. And when he finally came back into my life, he said something. We were had been talking for maybe 3 days, and he said something that was just a total lie
20:49 about himself. Now, I didn't know that he had I didn't know he was using. I I had no idea, okay? And I thought he I thought the Lord was going to send me a a superman back. Like I thought the Lord was going to send my husband to me like, "Duh duh like I'm I've done it all, and I've been through everything, and I'm back, and I'm, you know, totally redeemed. No. >> That's a good note. Hold on to that for a later. I I say with all respect in my heart for for him, because it's like he came back from war, okay? That my husband came back a 10% husband. I got a 10% husband who walked in the door okay? Now he's like 100%, but this man had been to war. Mhm. And he almost died in that battle.
21:35 Okay? And I did not know how bad it was, but I just started speaking a prayer over him while on the phone. I just started speaking a prayer over him and I said, I rebuke those lies. I command those lies. I command all those lying spirits to come off of his mind now. You cannot speak that way to the son of God. You cannot speak to this way to this man of God. You cannot speak that way to my husband. And I just went into a a deliverance prayer really. Over over my husband. And at the end he he was very quiet and he said, thank you. I thank you. And I said, you're welcome. And we said good night. And what I did not know is that there was a fully loaded meth pipe next to his bed that he had planned to smoke after we
22:20 talked. The next day he said, I had a spiritual awakening last night. And I was like, what? He did not ever use the He doesn't That's not Those aren't words he uses. He's a believer. He loves God, but a spiritual awakening, I was like, what do you mean? And he said, well, I'll tell you later because he didn't want to have to tell me that he was using again. Later in that conversation, he said it again and he said it again. And I just left it alone. I said, he'll tell me when, you know, he wants to tell me. And finally that evening, he said, I have to tell you I have to tell you what happened. When you prayed that prayer over me, I had a I had a I had a meth pipe next to me on the bed and I'm like
23:08 Wait, what? Wait, what? You guys were in the same room at the time? >> No, no, no. We lived 6 hours away from each other. Um I I'm like you know how you'll like watch a movie and then you'll get to the end and you'll realize like Mhm. somebody's not who you thought and you have to like go back to the beginning of the movie and like redo all your like what? >> Yes. I'm like wait, so we've been talking for 2 weeks. You've been using like and he's like yes. Every morning. I mean he had I mean Okay. So anyway, he said to me when he said when you prayed that prayer over me and we hung up I dropped to my knees and started sobbing. And I felt claws
23:53 like release their grip from my head. And he said I I just prayed I cried out to God and I I saw This is the scales falling from Paul's eyes. He said I saw how bad it was. I saw how horrible and how dangerous and how badly addicted I had become because because because the enemy was like, you know what? Last time when you did this you you didn't eat for days. You're eating. Wow. >> Last time when you did this you didn't sleep for days. You're sleeping every night. Mhm. Meanwhile, he's smoke he's getting up and smoking and smoking all day. Okay, and and and having seizures and I mean like his body was not
24:38 fentanyl. Okay, I'm This is not the same meth it was >> Man. 20 years ago whatever. >> That's a different world. So he said I I dropped to my knees and I and I started sobbing. This is not a man who cries. Wow. Okay. And he said I just gave my life back to the Lord." And he said, "I had my meth pipe in one hand and I was wrestling it out of that hand with the other hand. And it was a wrestling match between my hands." >> [gasps] >> And he finally said, "Finally, I grabbed it out of my hand and I threw it on the floor and smashed it and dumped the dope down the toilet." And I'm like, "So So, how long have you
25:24 been clean?" And he said, "24 hours." And I And then And then I realized that he'd had the road to Damascus moment. And God gave me the words that set my husband free. Paul had his road to Damascus moment and was blind for 3 days. He was blind for a period of time. Yep. The craziest part about that for me was when you began to speak and pray over him. I thought that was really significant because you said he's a man of God and you can't deal with a man of God. Like all of that's >> Yes. >> But simultaneously
26:10 he was using meth. He was a 10% husband. Someone that you didn't expect, but you spoke what God gave you to speak, what God said about his life. And I think that disconnect is really what messes everybody up. >> Mhm. Because I can't Mhm. What I'm seeing is keeping me from speaking in faith. That's why we're not We don't have faith because we walk by what we see and what we heard and what we experienced. And if all of that is that information, experience can't inform my faith. What I see can't inform my faith. What I knew can't inform my faith. What I think can't inform my faith. It truly has to be God, what did you say? Amen. At this point, I have no choice but to align myself with what you
26:55 said because everything I've seen, know, everything I know about this type of drug addiction, it's not good. The history of this thing is going to lead to a disaster. Soon as he told you those words, it should have broken all of your trust and you would have been like, "Well, I prayed in vain." He wasn't a man of God. But for you to stand and still affirm what God said in the midst of knowing that blindness and darkness, that's something that we all need. Keep going Zara. Yeah. Well, I think I I just have I have a special affinity for Paul. I really do. I think I love that he had the I you know, we don't have another example of that, right, in the word. Like, you know, leaving your fishing nets. Okay. >> Yeah, yeah, right. All right. Yeah, yeah. But like Paul,
27:40 you know, I mean, he was really, really, really lost, really, really, really in the darkness, really like a general for Satan. You know what I mean? Yeah. >> Like that is That's radical. That's as radical as you can get. Come on. As as as deceived as you can possibly be to the point where you are convinced you're on the side of good. Wow. How do I How do I resonate with this? Cuz that's how I was. That's my new age to Jesus. Just that's our first conversation. Come on. That was me. Yes. 100% me. Yes. You aren't going to tell me I'm wrong. You're You're deceived. Yeah. I'm so sorry to have to tell you. Oh my gosh, right? Like the narcissism, the pride, the arrogance. Yeah. Right?
28:26 And that's what Paul was walking in. And I just love that the Lord you know, he just gives us no wiggle wiggle room, right? Like he's like you you have an impossible story? I submit to you, Paul. You You show me a more impossible salvation than that. And I think he also is showing us in in Paul's story this this this strange way that someone can be on the road to destruction and seemingly walking cuz a lot of women are like, "But what about free will?" Well, come on. "What about my husband's free will? I can't pray." In fact, I had a I had a wife just recently say that her pastor told her to stop praying for her
29:13 husband's deliverance and the restoration of their marriage because it was witchcraft. Because his her husband obviously didn't want it because look what he was doing. That is a really really big I wanted to bring that up. The the the idea that they're doing what they want to do, praying for them is a form of manipulation. You can't pray against somebody's will. Amen. So, what would you say to that when someone says, "They're not even making mistakes. They're intentionally living this way. They're choosing a path of darkness. Somebody choose the path of darkness, then I can't pray for them." What would you say for someone who says that?
29:58 Um look at anybody that God calls to intercede for anybody in the Bible anywhere. >> [laughter] >> I mean, look at Daniel, you know, fasting for for the nation of Israel. I mean, do you think that that every person in the nation of Israel was like, "I'm so glad Daniel's fasting for us." No, they're out there worshipping idols and sacrificing their children and doing all sorts of terrible things. What is intercession? I mean, I think that's the bigger question. >> Okay. Right? God says, "I searched for a man among them who would stand in the gap for me." Right? He looks for people who are going to intercede on behalf of the will of the spirit of that man, the spirit of that woman, the spirit of that nation. That is his bride. Israel is his bride.
30:45 Wait, wait. I don't think you know what you just said. You just said intercession is the act of interceding for the will of the spirit. >> Amen. Yes. Oh, wait. So, even if that person's will is surrendered to the enemy or that person is choosing a life of darkness, I'm I'm not worried I want the will of God. Thy kingdom come, thy will be Amen. And Paul, this is why I brought up Romans 7. That Paul talks about this, the good the Listen, the good that I would do, I do not. Right? The evil that I would not do, that I do. What is it and I'm totally paraphrasing. What is it that does that? The sin that
31:30 lives in me, my flesh. Right? So, the Lord is trying to say something about will here. He's trying to say something about free will. He's trying to He's trying to point out that there's two operators. Okay, there's the operator of the flesh and the operator of the spirit. And unfortunately, our spirit man can be held captive by our flesh. Wow. Okay? Look at literally Paul in prison, literally. He literally lived that out. His flesh was in prison. His spirit man was free. >> Come on. Okay? So, inter- When I believe when God calls you to intercede for your husband, it is because his spirit man is crying
32:18 out for freedom. Wow. Wow. And here's the other thing. This blew me away and I literally just the Holy Spirit just gave me this revelation like 2 days ago. 1 Peter 3:7 says that if a man if a husband does not honor his wife his prayers will be hindered, right? We're we're familiar with that. >> Yes, right. That is a terrible translation. That word means chopped down. It means chopped down like a tree. Okay? My husband in the depths of his addiction and all the abandonment all the things.
33:04 >> Yeah. Okay? Yeah. >> Was was not honoring me, right? As his wife, right? For sure not. So, any prayers that he prayed to God over his life God's not going to answer. And I promise you they pray them. I know that it probably doesn't look like it, right? If you're a wife and you're like, "Yeah, my husband doesn't care." I promise you I promise you in the secret place in the darkness when nobody is listening he is crying out for help. I promise he is. He does not want to do what he's doing. The good that I would do I do not do. The evil that I would not do I do. He doesn't want to be doing these things. This is not his nature. This is not how God wired him.
33:49 This is not like this yes, his flesh might be having a great time, but he is in agony inside. His spirit man is in agony, right? Unfortunately though because he is dishonoring his wife >> Come on. >> he can pray all he wants. I I don't I don't get it. I think that's a crazy verse. Yes. >> that it is nuts. >> Wow. But I [snorts] believe that the reason is because the the reason that that the Lord right now is calling wives to intercede for their husbands in in situations where everyone is like, "You just need to walk away." Like my my situation. Everyone was like, "You need to get you just need to walk away. Move on.
34:35 Move on. Find a good man. These are Christians telling me this. These are prophets telling me that. God does not want his daughters to be in pain. God does not want his daughters to be abused. You deserve a good man. Prophets telling me this. But here's the thing. I the Holy Spirit began to teach me about what a who a wife actually is. >> Come on. And he brought me to Genesis 2:18. I shall make for him a helpmate. What I've shared about ezer k'enegdo. K'enegdo means perfectly paired with, matched to, and corresponding to. Okay? He picked you to go to war for your specific husband.
35:22 He specifically picked you to go to war specifically for your husband. You have been matched with him. He knew your husband was going to fall. He knew it. And in the moment, does it seem fair? No. Is it Does it No. You know, and a lot of wives say that, why do I have to do this? Like why do I have Like why do I have to do I'm a single mom now, you know, I have I have babies at home. I've I've I got to, you know, fend for myself now. All the things, right? Yes, I hear you. I hear you. This is not forever. Hm. The Lord is not about wasting time restoring kingdom marriages. We're in
36:08 the end times. Like kingdom marriages need to be united and on the business of God, right? He He is not about, you know, he I believe we're in a season of acceleration. >> Well. Fact my my husband literally said this when he came back. He was only back a couple months and he said, I don't understand this, but God is doing a work in me that would have normally taken years. >> Come on. And it is it is true. This man is not the same man. I don't get it. I don't understand. He didn't go to class. He didn't go to marriage class. We didn't go to marriage counseling. He didn't do I don't know it is it is he is I don't understand what happened other than it's it is God. And God returned to me the most incredible man,
36:54 the most compassionate man, the full of wisdom, full of grace, full of patience. I mean I don't I don't get it other than God just rewired him completely in in months, right? That normally would take years. And the reason is because the Lord said to me the purpose of marriage is to war against the kingdom of darkness. >> Wow. The purpose of marriage is to war against the kingdom of darkness. And and that was very early on when I was interceding. And I was like, well, that's kind of cool and amazing. And I wonder if that's scriptural. It's got to be. It's God saying it. I got to go to
37:39 the Bible. And I got to figure out where could I like I cuz that's not the I've never heard anybody say that. The purpose of marriage is to war against the kingdom of darkness. And that's when he sent me to Genesis 2:18. And that's when he helped me understand that the role of a wife is to is to go to war on behalf of her husband when he cannot do that himself. Which is what 1 Peter 3:7 supports. You know, I got some I got some uh objections that are going to rise up in the comments. So, when people see this video, are you ready for them? I'm totally ready. >> So, one was which is probably something you've already spoke on is
38:25 when a man, whether you say that he's being used by the enemy or he's choosing his way or he's not choosing his way, in the act of abandoning or dishonoring his wife, he's actively hurting her. He's actively wounding her. Yeah. So, how do you expect a human being who has feelings >> Mhm. to truly and sincerely intercede Mhm. wholeheartedly for someone who is actively I'm not saying in the past, but actively dishonoring her. Yeah. I think probably more marriages need to experience a time of separation than than is happening right now. I think a
39:11 lot of wives So, the Lord told me to separate for 3 years and I didn't listen to him because I was codependent and I wanted to save my husband and I didn't want him to be mad at me. Okay. >> [snorts] >> Uh which is idolatry. Woah. So, there's a there's a whole other thing. So, I'm just going to say this before I forget. If you've been warring for your marriage for longer than a season, okay, and I only only you and God know what that season is, but it is if it has been years and years and years, you're in a famine, okay? That's not like a winter season that you are now in a famine. Famine Leviticus Leviticus 26, famine happens because of idolatry. We see this all throughout the Bible. Woah. >> Famine happens because of idolatry. And
39:59 so, the Lord said to me when he finally blew my husband and me apart, he said, "So, your husband might be a narcissist, but you're an idolater." And I was like, "I don't really see that. How am I an idolater?" And he said to me a couple things. One, narcissists need someone to worship them. Idolaters need someone to worship. Okay. This is I got a lot of it. >> [laughter] >> What? >> And do you know what else do you know what? He said that to me in prayer. Two days later, I I randomly watched a Tiffany Buckner video where she said, "The reward for your
40:46 idolatry is your narcissistic partner." And I was like, That's insane. >> Excuse me. >> [laughter] >> That's my sister Tiffany. >> Excuse me. >> Wow. >> It had nothing about that on the little thumbnail thingy thingy. Sorry. Like and I was like, are you even kidding me right then? I stepped into Tiffany Bryant Tiffany's um Year of the Bride fast. >> Wow. And day two was death to idolatry and she says, "As my sister Tiffany Buckner says, the reward for your idolatry is your narcissistic partner." Within a week. I'm like, I get it. Okay, God. Okay, I get it. Okay, fine. Yeah, he he spoke to you directly. >> I'm an idolater. And I said, "Okay, show me. Like show me cuz I've been praying to you on my face
41:32 sometimes every hour for this marriage for 3 years. How am I an idolater, right?" And he said to me, "Who did you think about most during the day though?" "Who did you think about most? Yeah, you prayed to me. You got her right. But who did you think about most? Whose opinion mattered most to you? Whose approval mattered most to you?" And I was like, I don't really feel like answering any of those questions. I mean, obviously my husband. He said, "If I had answered any of your prayers, so he basically acknowledged he didn't answer a single one of my prayers for my marriage or my husband for 3 years. He
42:19 said if I had answered your prayers, I would have just been strengthening your idol. If you don't say anything else, that's enough. What? And he said and you've read your Old Testament, so you know what I think about idolatry. You know what I do to people and to lands and to nations because of their idolatry. So you can you need to put down your you need to get off your high horse that your husband is this and that and the other thing cuz you are an idolater, my daughter. And I love you and I want to restore your marriage. I fully intend to restore your marriage, but I am not answering the prayers of an idolater. Oh wow.
43:05 >> So, we need to deal with your sin. We need to deal with your idolatry. We need to get you into union with me. I'm your first husband. And he sent me to Isaiah 54. Enlarge the place of thy tents and let them stretch forth the curtains of thine habitation. Spare not. Lengthen thy cords, strengthen thy stakes, for thou shalt break forth on the right hand and on the left. And then a few verses later, for I am your husband and your maker. I am your husband and your maker. And I suddenly realized that I didn't know what it meant to have my father in heaven, my Lord, as my husband.
43:51 And I suddenly saw our separation as a honeymoon with my husband. So so to answer your question, was I hurt? 100% Had I been verbally abused and psychologically abused? 100% Did I do my fair share of stuff, too? Yes. But, did I hurt and did I have rights to be hurt and good reason to be hurt? 100% He didn't put me on the assignment to intercede right away. He First of all, he had to show me my own sin so that I can get off my my high horse because I will take you to the parable of the unforgiving servant. >> Well, Okay.
44:37 Who thinks that the Lord that his master forgiving him of 200,000 years of wages because that's what that that's what the amount was was 10 talents. 200,000 years of wages. Okay. Was not enough for him to turn around and not forgive someone who owed him 3 months of wages. Okay. And Jesus I mean, he he he is basically saying Or 3 months I think it's when I did the calculations like comes up to like let's say 16 to like 25 grand, right? When the servant is like, "Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I don't have to work for you for 200,000 years. Okay, thank you." And then he turns around and he's like, "You owe me money." And the first thing he
45:23 does is choke the guy. Literally choke the guy who owes him money. And the guy says, "Please have mercy on me." And he's like, "No." And he has him thrown into prison, right? So, the guy owed him the equivalent of about 16 to 25,000 dollars. That's a lot of money. That's not a small amount of money. >> Mhm. What your husband did to you is not a small thing. It's not a small thing. It's not. But But, what you did Okay. >> 200,000 years of wages is what Jesus came down to pay for you.
46:08 So, it's not that what was done to you was small. It's not that we're making it insignificant. It is that you don't understand. >> Oh my goodness. >> What was forgiven? You don't understand the debt that you owed that was forgiven. So, you're saying the beginning of this process was the Lord unveiling you to you, allowing you to see your sin for what it was, to see the weight of your own sin. I think for many people that have gone through or are going through situations like this, there is a level of victimhood that that we can own, right? And if I'm offended and if I'm being hurt, then my hurt
46:53 is bigger than God's mercy. Mhm. And Mhm. And no one this it's almost like we enjoy on the strength of the justice that we're enjoying, we're using the freedom of the I call it the That's the the injustice because you didn't really get what you deserve. That's mercy. On the strength of mercy, we're using that freedom to now hold people captive and we're unwilling to be who God has called us to be because they hurt us. And so, how do people I know you kind of gave that. How do people practically on a daily basis not get bogged down as victims? >> Yeah. Like
47:39 >> Well, so here So, here's what I'd say. So, so you had asked about, you know, how do wives who are walking this out right now and they're in active, you know, they're in active abuse, right? Number one, you need to get to safety. It is not okay to stay in situations of abuse ever. We are not a mat That's demonic behavior. Okay, abuse is from the enemy. So, we are not a match for our husband's demons, period. What did you say? We are not a match for our husband's demons. That's good. >> If there's demon if there's demonic influence happening, get to safety. Get to safety. We are told to guard our hearts, okay? Proverbs 4, I think, two
48:24 or three or something like that. We are all told to guard our hearts. That's actually a military term. That's That is like to set up a guard around to protect >> Come on. >> our hearts, okay? So, I believe that the Father in heaven is serious about his daughters being treated well. Look what he does to husband's prayers when they don't treat their wives well. Okay? He is not playing around with his daughters being treated with honor. Wow. So, get yourself to safety. And in the quiet of that, in the solitude of that, the Lord is going to start to reveal things to you that you may not have seen, right? About your part in this. I have never met a
49:09 wife, and I have now 1,600 wives in my ministry community contending for their marriages, okay? And I have spoken privately to most of them. I've never met a wife who is not in some level of idolatry of her marriage or her husband or herself in trying to save the marriage. Okay? I've I've not I've yet to see it. And this is why the husband This is why the I believe the Lord is sending them to me in droves. We We I shared with you before we started this. I I started my community with 70 people on December 9th. It's now February 5th, and there's over 1,600 wives in this community. He is throwing them at me. Okay? Because he is
49:56 about restoration of marriages. He is about saving these marriages and these husbands from the jaws of hell and the grip of Satan. Wow. >> Okay? That's his That's his purpose, but he has got to deal with the wives' idolatry first. He cannot He is not, according to his own laws, Leviticus 26. If you If we are in idolatry and we do not walk in his ways, he says, "You The seeds you sow will not bear fruit." Actually, the en- the en- your enemies will take them. Wow. You will um you will have defeat in war. You will not be victorious in war. So, all your warfare praying
50:44 No No That's why nothing's That's why you're besieged on all sides. Right? It's right there in Leviticus 26. It's just It's right there. So, he needs to deal with the wives' idolatry first. And And then actually also take her through healing. There's very real like nervous system insanity that I was in. I mean, I got so bad. And I used to say my marriage got so bad. But that's ido- That's giving the marriage way too much power. Mhm. Okay? Marriages don't break people. Their idolatry of the marriage is what breaks them. Wow. Okay? I got so bad, I could not walk across
51:32 literally my bedroom floor. I could not make it from my bed to my door. Okay? That's how shredded I was emotionally physically mentally everything. >> Mhm. But that's because I was idolizing my marriage. And I was idolizing my husband, and I was idolizing my own strength in being able to save the marriage and save my husband. Okay, that's what broke me down. I did have total I mean my adrenals gave out. I was a wreck. It was an absolute wreck. And that's real stuff. Once it gets in your body, we we need to talk about inner healing. We need to talk about nervous system regulation. We need to I mean, this is real, you know, and I am not denying
52:19 that at all. And the Lord wants to do that healing in you. And you've got to be away from that demonic craziness and insanity and abuse for that to happen. You You cannot heal from abuse in the presence of abuse. >> Whoa. There's no way. There's no way. There's There's because you keep getting re-triggered and re-traumatized and re-triggered and re-traumatized, and you can barely breathe. You can barely function. You're in survival mode. Wow. Right? So, you know, and a lot of wives are like, "Well, but, you know, how How am I going to make money? And how am I going to survive? And how how how?" if I separate from my husband. I mean, that's another apartment. That's another That's all the things, right?
53:05 And I just say, "I don't think you know who your good father is." Huh. I don't think you understand what it means to be a husb have a husband who is your provider and your protector, is what I think. And I actually walked a woman through this very situation where she unfortunately had to serve her husband with the restraining order and have him removed from the home. Three babies under three years old. Oh. And a 16-year-old and a job that didn't even pay the bills. And and she was losing her mind. She's like, "I can't I can't I can't." I said, "You you have to, okay? Because for safety reasons, you have to." "Well, how am I going to make it? How am I going to do I can't pay for child care. I work all day. How am I going to what you know?"
53:52 Imagine all the questions, right? And I said to her, "Your obedience to your father in heaven is your provision and your protection." Your obedience to God is your provision and your protection. >> So good. Not obeying him is what gets you into danger, right? And you're out there on your own. He doesn't want you out there on your own, but he has he has he has told us how to walk in his blessings and his favor in fruitfulness, in abundance. Leviticus 26, he talks about if you walk in my way and in my commandments, your your your trees will bear fruit, you will have peace on all sides, you know,
54:39 one will chase away 5,000, two will chase away 10,000, you will have victory over your enemies. This is this is what it is, right? And so I said to her, "You I know it sounds crazy, but it's not crazy, actually. It's like the least crazy thing in the world to trust God." >> Woo. Okay? That if you are protecting your family and your children and walking in his will in that, do you think he's just going to drop you and be like, "Yeah, so sorry." That's I don't know, you got three kids under three. I don't know. I said, "I have good luck with that." I mean, this is this is your dad. Come on. >> your husband, okay? This is the ultimate provider and protector. And so she finally got to that place. She was like, "Okay, I'm doing it."
55:25 In the next 48 hours, she came home for having made that decision and her porch was full of groceries. No, she hadn't told anybody. She hadn't told anybody. And she got text, you know, from a friend, I just the Lord just put it on my heart to send you groceries, they're on your porch. Some a co-worker, the Lord just put it on my heart to send you groceries, they're on your porch. She could barely fit all the food in her fridge okay? And then she's like, this is amazing. Oh, I also need diapers. She gets a call from a co-worker, I need your diaper size for all your kids, I'm buying you diapers. For all your kids. She's like, okay? And then she's like, what about child care? You know what I mean to do? She gets a call from whoever the government assistant child care said, you um have been approved for 30 days of free child
56:12 care, which is, you know, she was like, great. And they said, however, you you're going to have to reapply and it it's probably going to take quite some time. She's like, all right, well, you know, at least I have 30 days. They called the next day and said, I'm sorry, there was some mistake, you get it for free for a year. For all your children. And she was like, Lorna, I don't get like I don't like this is not this doesn't happen. I'm like, it does happen though. Wow. >> It does happen. It's happening. And then my favorite, she had her electric bill paid for 3 months for some somebody somehow something some way some her bill just appeared paid like And then my favorite one
56:58 is that she had been really wanted to get her hair done. She hadn't been able to get her hair done forever. Cuz when you're living in that kind of life, it's survival mode and that's it. And she had reached out a couple months before to her hairdresser and said, you know, if I'm going to do this like if I if I ever can make the money like how much is it going to be? And the hairdresser said, $200. So, this all this stuff is happening and she's like, man, I just it'd be so amazing if I get my hair done. Her sister-in-law called her and said, the Lord just put it on my heart to send you $200 to get your hair done. All right. It's Yeah. Mhm. Just >> [laughter] >> I I just And I said to her, What? I said to her, "This is what a husband is. He not only provides for you for food, for
57:45 necessities. He is such a good husband. He wants you to look pretty and get your hair done." Oh man. Man. Don't make me tear up. >> [snorts] >> Are you ready to discuss some challenges? >> Yes. So, what about divorce? Because, to be honest, some people already in court proceedings. They're already talking to attorneys. They're already contemplating. So much has happened. They're tired. They're exhausted. And for many people, there are grounds for divorce according to scripture. So, being a warrior wife, I assume that stops once the attorneys get involved.
58:31 Why? God is God God The courts of heaven are what I care about. >> [snorts] [laughter] >> Okay. I The The earthly courts, come on now. I mean, that God can't change things, ambush things, suddenly stop things, pause things. I mean, number one, okay? Number one. Number two, there are stories. In fact, I just had a woman on um a couple weeks ago sharing an incredible testimony of God restoring her marriage after 4 years of divorce. Wow. So, because here's the thing. I And we talked about this before we started this conversation.
59:18 I I believe there are almost no grounds for divorce. That is my reading of scripture. Okay? That's That's my reading of scripture. Hold on, sister. Because according to the Bible that we all know was popular today is if anybody steps outside of the marriage with infidelity, if there's adultery then immediately either individual can get a divorce immediately. Okay, but where is that verse in scripture? Well, let's pull out the Bible. Let's pull out the Bible. Let's Let's Let's Let's go straight to it. >> Okay. Let's go to the >> to Well, I hope I didn't mess that up. Um you're referring to Matthew 19:9, okay? Let's read it. KJV.
1:00:04 And I say unto you, this is Jesus. >> I'm seeing it. Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery. And whoso marrieth her, which is put away, doth commit adultery. So, what what he's saying here is that if a man divorces his wife except if she has fornicated, which is essentially adultery, okay? Except for in that case. So, if it is in that case, and he puts her away, and he remarries, he doesn't commit adultery, which means, right? He doesn't commit adultery with the new wife. So, that means that his covenant with his wife first wife, is totally annulled. Because
1:00:50 otherwise, he'd be committing adultery with the new wife. Okay, so Jesus is is is totally acknowledging here the absolute ending of one covenant and the beginning of another, okay? >> Okay. This only refers to a man putting away his wife for her adultery. There There is no and if a wife shall put away her husband, except for fornication, and shall marry another, there there is no reciprocation here. Hold on. Hold on. So are >> I'm just I'm just I'm reading the word. >> Many people are going to going to have to virtually stone you. So
1:01:38 So are you trying to say that the Lord is like this is patriarchy, that this is sexist? That the Lord is giving preferential treatment to men who are properly more Hold on. Preferential treatment to to be able to have their souls in danger? This We're talking about We're talking about adultery here, okay? Preferential treatment to sin? Woah. >> Do you want pre So So I want preferential treatment to sin just like my husband? That doesn't make any sense. This is adultery. This is a big deal. The fact that he The fact that he says it's okay to to to put away the woman
1:02:24 to me is more shocking than saying it's not okay for anybody. I mean, it's We're talking about adultery here. He divorced Israel for her adultery. This is a big deal. It's not okay. And I I And I believe that there is a reason for this the I believe wives are more tied to the marriage covenant in terms of their ability to get out of it than men are. Explain that. Well, just this verse here basically says a man can can divorce his wife for her adultery. But it does not give the reverse. Not No verse. So Matthew um I think it's also Mar Matthew 5:23.
1:03:11 This looks >> He also He also basically says almost the exact same thing. Um Can't be 5:23. It's something It's something like that. >> Mark 5 with the woman >> Mark Mark 5:23. Okay. Um Is it the woman who who uh caught in adultery? No, what am I thinking of? I think it's I thought it was Matthew 5:23. There's one more that that almost exactly mirrors Matthew 19:9. >> languaging. Okay. Um And I thought it was Matthew 5:23.
1:03:58 >> We're going to get it right now. Let me tell you right now. Uh Mark 10 Mark 10 2 to 16. Here it is. 32 >> [laughter] >> not 23. Okay. >> Matthew 5:32. But I say unto you Matthew 5 >> Okay. >> Yeah. 32. But I say unto you that whosoever shall put away his wife saving for the cause of fornication causeth her to commit adultery. Causeth who to commit adultery?
1:04:44 Causeth his wife to. So, if he if if if if a husband divorces his wife for any reason except her adultery >> Okay. and she remarries, he's causing her to commit adultery cuz she cuz the divorce was not sanctioned. Right? So, he's saying if your wife commits adultery and you divorce her for that and you remarry you're not committing adultery because that is grounds to sever that covenant. Her adultery is grounds to sever the covenant. He does not say the opposite. I I noticed, I mean, the woman that was caught in adultery, that happened. Where are the instances of men,
1:05:31 how they're being dealt with with their infidelity? Is there are there scriptures that highlight a man's infidelity and how >> it's judgment. >> It's sin, and their prayers don't get answered. I mean, I you know, I have not found in scripture, in fact, you said something before we started this conversation where somebody had told you that every every time a woman >> Yeah, they I heard a man speak this. He said, "Every time a woman prayed, whether it was eventual or instantly, God always eventually answered the prayer of a woman or a praying woman in scripture." That was interesting. >> especially especially in light of 1 Peter 3:7 that says if a husband does not honor his wife, his prayers will be chopped down. See, I believe the Lord is he he
1:06:20 is not fair, but he is balanced, okay? So, you as a wife may be more tied in terms of your responsibilities to the covenant of marriage than your husband, but your prayers get answered even if you disrespect him. His prayers, if he dishonors you, don't. Right? So, the Lord is he he's he's he's equal, but unfair, right? Like, it's unfair, but he doesn't leave you in a worse >> Yeah. in in a worse off position, is what I'm saying. Like, there's there's consequences, right? And here's the other thing. I believe that that that the way that he has structured a man a husband's relationship to
1:07:07 covenant and a wife's relationship to covenant throughout scripture is evident in how a man and a wife were first created. Explain that. Adam was created single. Mhm. Eve was created married. Adam was created single. His assignment had to do with the earth. Mhm. Eve was not just created as a woman. She was created as a wife. She was created in covenant. She was created bound to covenant. Okay? This Yes, does it tie her on the earth
1:07:53 more to marriage? Yes. But, when he said, "I make I shall make for him an ezer k'negdo, a warrior in the spirit, I believe what he was saying was, 'I get that I'm placing wives in subjection to fallen men.'" Okay. Okay. I get that. I understand that I have said and he shall rule over you and he's a fallen man that I have said shall rule over my precious daughter. I get the danger in that. I get how deeply a man can fall. I get how far he can fall. And so, I am going to appoint the wife special access to me in the courts of
1:08:39 heaven to come before the mercy seat and say, "I want my marriage back. I want my husband back." And he will give it to you. So, we have less jurisdiction down here on earth, right? We're not He rules over us. That is a reign That means reign, dominion. It's what kings have It's the same word that's used for kings' reign. Okay, that's what that means. Right? But we have power in the spirit. We have authority in the spirit that we do not have I don't think we have any He is a daddy's girl.
1:09:26 Mhm. And I believe that angels kneel when a wife who embodies her identity as an ezer kenegdo walks into the courts of heaven and says, "I want my husband free." Mhm. So, this is a conversation about empowerment in a woman stepping into her God-given, God-ordained assignment. And when a woman mhm kind of powers back and kind of witnesses everything disintegrate. First of all, you talked about the process. I love the process. God shows you you, deals with the idolatry, and all of this is the equipping to position you. I want
1:10:13 to I want to ask for those women that got into the marriage and uh you talked a little bit about it thinking and believing, "This is my Prince Charming. I married my spiritual leader." Mhm. How is it now, 5 years down the line, God wants me to be the muscle man? God wants me to pull the spiritual weight of a relationship? God wants me to pray for a man who knows what he's doing, who should be praying for me, who hurt me? And that takes me back to Paul. Jesus confronted Paul and said, "You're persecuting me." His interruption or his intercession, which is intervention, >> Mhm. was to say, "I'm stopping you. I'm making provision for your healing restoration, but I need you to know that you're persecuting me.
1:11:01 Yeah. Yeah. >> So, Jesus Christ intervened in the midst of Paul's persecuting him. And so, if we're going to pattern ourselves and position ourselves, just look at what Jesus did and how he navigated that. But, I wanted to ask you, what do you say for the woman that says, "If I'm the weaker vessel, how are you now reversing this and saying, 'Now I'm the world wrestling champion of the world.'" What is this? >> But, see that that that assumes that you don't have a husband. I'm sorry, but my father in heaven, my God, is my husband. As real to me as my actual earthly husband. He's the man. I'm the woman.
1:11:46 I don't become the man because my husband is not acting as a man and a leader right now. Okay? Intercession is feminine warfare. There is a verse in the Bible, and I don't Actually, I think I did write it down. Yahweh is a man of war. Exodus 15:3. That word war is a feminine word in Hebrew. It is milchamah. Okay? That is a feminine word. Why is it feminine? Because warfare, spiritual warfare, and intercession is travailing. It's labor. There is nothing more feminine than you can do than to labor for heaven's will to be done on earth. We are portals.
1:12:32 We are physical vessels that host heaven and turn it into matter through the will of God, through the power of Jesus. Okay? That's who we are. There is nothing more feminine than that. Okay? [clears throat] When you go to war on behalf of your husband, you are doing spiritual labor. You are You are being given something to birth. The Lord is giving you something to birth a restored marriage, a delivered soul, a delivered and transformed man. Okay? And he's going to take care of you while you are in your birthing season. He is your husband. He will take care of you. He will provide for you. He
1:13:17 provided for me so that I didn't have to work. Kind of like what he was doing with that woman, right? The groceries, the diapers. This is physi- He is her husband. He's like, "I got the groceries, babe. I got the diapers, babe." "Go get your hair done, babe." Literally, that's God. God is doing that. Okay? You don't have to step into the man's role. You just have to be the ultimate expression of how God wired you as a woman. And go into conception and birth. And he will provide for you. He will provide in all ways. I healed through this process. It wasn't It wasn't Here's the other thing. We do not understand what spiritual warfare really is.
1:14:05 Battles are won in the courts of heaven. And they are walked out on the battlefield from victory. Oh. Okay? If you look at scripture, many times King David, whoever it was, consulted God, "Should we Should we go fight this battle?" And God was like, "Yep, you're going to win." What kind of warring is that? Right? Like you you You already know the I'm I won. That is a very different kind of warring. That's good. >> Right? Jehoshaphat assigning the singers to go before the army. Do they still have to go out on the battlefield? Yeah, you still You still have to go out on the battlefield, okay? It's still looks nuts and crazy, okay?
1:14:50 Cuz your singers are in front Mhm. who are not armored up and don't have like spears and stuff, okay? It looks totally nuts and crazy, but you won. How did you win? Because the Lord gave you a ruling of victory in the courts of heaven, and you take that out onto the battlefield and you praise. Women don't understand and and I mean not this is just for women, but I warred like exhausting like war war war for I don't know, maybe maybe a month. Maybe not even. The rest of it was victory dances and worship and praise of what I knew had already been accomplished in the spirit. Like I don't know if you thought if you found out you were pregnant.
1:15:36 Right? Is it it is it is it tiring? Like yeah, pregnancy, labor, like that's exhausting, but it's you're birthing something. It is it is a noble assignment to be given something to birth. Right? And your father in heaven, your husband is going to take care of you. He's going to give you the time, he's going to give you the space to do that. I love the idea you just made me think of this while you were saying that. Now I think of intercession differently now. I look at intercession now as they say standing in the gap, is standing in the gap of what it looks like and what he already says it will be. >> Amen. So I'm just going towards
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