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0:00 friends especially Lee he tried to disprove the case he tried to understand how Meyer had the capabilities of hoaxing all of the material all the analysis that we did the photographic analysis analysis the movie footage analysis metal analysis sound analysis nothing could determine how he hoaxed it it all came out very positive so for two years we were involved in this discussion of trying to figure out how he did it what was interesting about this man is we put him through a lot of how we connected PSE examination psychological stress evaluation we invaded display the donating this house we live there he allowed us to interview his kids his wife his friends he wouldn't try to stop
0:45 anything he didn't try to hinder us and we spent a lot of time there so we felt gosh we had to try to prove it to ourselves that this was really happening and we had to conduct a lot of Science and scientific investigations but after two years we found it was easier to believe he was having contact then trying to figure out how he's manipulating this old story how's he getting metal how's the bonding medal in a strange way how is he taking these photographs of restoring Witnesses confirming the story [Music]
1:35 and foreign the contact begins from January 28 1975 in inville how did it happen what what made you go
2:21 outside in the forest I got something like uh very nice voice in my head I heard something to leave the house to go out and to take a closer camera with me so I left my house and then when I was Far upside from the village I heard the singing noise in the sky and when I was looking up there I have seen a disc this this was flying all the clouds and then it came to the point where I was staying with my motorcycle then slowly
3:06 slowly it came slower and lower and set it down between the white trees and the Forester behind Maya later photographs The Impressions left by the disc's tripod landing gear the grass has been pressed and swirled at the counterclockwise Direction even a year later the grass has not sprung back but Maya notes that the Impressions swarm with insect life then I have seen a person who came out of the disc the person came out yeah I have seen what did they look like [Music] you like I like human beings from this
3:52 Earth you call us extraterrestrials you attribute to a superhuman Powers but we are like you we too are still far removed from Perfection and must be valve constantly just like yourselves after the first words we turn and what's going for this you walked over here [Music] for uh about one hour or one hour on the court or something like that did she give you a name what did you call her yo she told me her name is [Music] Billy what kind of feeling did you have sitting here under this tree with a
4:38 woman who just landed in a spacecraft I wasn't afraid about these things I was afraid about the Army only because they have a station somewhere there behind the forest but I wasn't afraid about the disc where do they come from Mr Mark they shall be coming from the Star picture of the players the communications
6:01 listen here [Applause] wow you recorded that here my wife recorded this one here and in the meantime I've been there down very standingly with the older recorder we had another recorder down there how high was the ship above you uh about 60 meters 60 meters how far would you estimate it is from here today I think some 300 meters the sound spanned no resemblance to anything Stevens has heard before Maya gives him both tapes for analysis Stevens has more news we got a report back from showman sound analysis he had
6:46 sent the sound tapes Maya took of the craft to Robin Shulman specialist in sound identification things he found some things we didn't hear on there such as well he picked up besides the basic sound he picked up a small dog barking of course we could hear him he picked up a European police siren we never heard that he picked up a crow coin wait a minute how the hell does he pick all this stuff up they've got a sound Bank back there that they match sounds in they can identify known sounds okay on the sound Bank of uh his anything there to match it we haven't he said he said he can't match the basic sound he can match all of the other sounds on the tape but he can't match the sound of the of the object itself the emitted sound now look at this he's concluded up to this point that the machine was built must have been built for a specialized application recognizing the sounds from such a machine may be difficult also later
7:32 Shellman will theorize from the sounds of those specialized applications might be serious analysis next Stevens takes the metal fragments to be examined under the electronic spectrometer to determine the examination of the metal has been done in Switzerland [Music]
8:20 Hill marker bars here that we can line up on each as they come up this one indicates me a silver there uh over here [Music] so copper swallow a lot of copper it looks like about all that's in here at the moment I think Dan here is silver though the big one is silver later analysis of other fragments also reveals small amounts of thulium a rare Earth element that is difficult and costly to extract here this is one of the rise of the unusual nature of the findings the fragments are given to chemist Marcel Vogel an expert in crystalline structures and inventor of many substances used in computer components the first specimen I looked at is a metal specimen
9:05 which I classified as F1 this is the appearance that it looked at by the golden colored on one side silver colored here we find that in truth it is silver and a small amount of copper we look at it here this same area here under polarized light what is unusual of this small specimen is both highly crystalline nature and suddenly we come to a metal section as we see here and it showed a combination of metals that I've not encountered in any normal bit of metal urging both crystalline deposits and Metal
9:51 now we with any technology that I know of could not achieve this on this Earth plane I could not explain the type of material that I have in its discreetness by any known combination of materials I could not put it together myself as a scientist it's also a challenge because I showed it to one of my friends who is a metallurgist and he shook his head he said I don't see how it can be put together and we find that in this area there is evidence of Machining that there are striations which look like the sample has been worked mechanically it doesn't look like anything that we've made here at this moment I would feel very much inclined to accept what was given to me as being true
10:37 photography is foreign let's go back and look at this picture again and get some information about the edges I've discovered this interesting program for measuring the edges of things and
11:25 comparing it to all the other edges in the pictures based on the relationship of those the width of the edges and the properties in the edges so we're stretching the data in the edges so we can count how many pixels wide it is and it's very interesting what happens when you scratch them out because it becomes very clear pixels these little squares like building blocks and pretty easy to count this one ranges from five to seven pixels wide on this Edge so we have our range here is from six to eight now what this tells us in looking at all the edges on the object is first
12:11 of all that it's not a flat piece of plywood hung in the air or it's not a pay stub that was done it actually has shape to it and in this case a very wide range which has to do with Focus some of the object is more in focus than other parts of the object which tells me right off at that point that we're dealing with something of size to it there are new photos too and More film in some the beam should hovers by a tree Maya says they use trees as a kind of magnetic ground two or more ships in the same shot are almost unheard of on UFO photos Maya has dozens of such pictures
12:56 [Music] ships below horizon line such as a hill are even rarer in this photo the variation 2 ship controls a smaller unmanned drone ship designated as variation 5. in one demonstration A variation of three ship exhibits a behavior Stevens has seen before we have often reported a nipping flight we also have a wobbling flavor where it wobbles around a vertical axis the bobbing effect Meyer explains is due to the ship riding the waves of the Earth's magnetic field much as a boat on the ocean foreign [Music] they told me it's seven meters one of
13:42 the most frequent spots for the contacts is Ober satellite a wide Valley just 10 minutes from the farm at schmidty here Maya took one of his most spectacular series of photographs between both roads and you'll come see here this Lighty trees here that's they bear up and here on the left side is Hill what's happened there behind and the trees here down it's that one there yeah okay then is this what it is coming this picture I took there if you go left side a little bit here if you go down like this way here the beam ship stayed in the area for almost 20 minutes flying slowly often skimming the Treetops sometimes just
14:28 hovering airplanes the ship was a little behind them when I took this picture and just now the trees are growing up in the last months they are about one and a half or two meter highers then at the time when I took this picture then why did it move it left that place to the left side something like yep like this and then it was moving over there you see here the small tree where it's happened there this one that's that there did it come across in front of the trees like this yes yes and you can see there behind left side of this one these three The Higher One
15:13 there yeah and after this picture I got the other one to that position there further over yeah another one in here now yeah one in between there right I had to go back a little bit there down and from there I took the picture that's the tree there around what you can see the investigators are impressed by the vastness 60 drops and the obvious difficulty of hanging models from anywhere to fake the pictures ability of the site gives the investigators the chance to put the photos through another test Billy this here we're using this to measure distance it's the latest in infrared measuring devices it's actually a small computer it's made by wild hybrid here in
16:00 Switzerland and what we're trying to do here Lee is up there with the reflector and what this will do is send infrared light out and reflect out of that reflector back here and this will rapidly tell us the distance and will also tell us how much higher or lower he is that's about where you're standing right there that's right hey we'll go to on systems the precise measurements and photos are fed into the computer the edges of known objects such as the trees and the hills are translated into pixels [Music] since these measurements are known the number of pixels in the edge of the unknown object the craft gives its distance [Music]
16:48 the beam ship is determined to be just where Maya said it was simple triangulation then gives its size seven meters or about 21 feet in diameter by now the investigators are made over a dozen trips the case takes up more and more of their time and taxes their Ingenuity each test leads to another and every result is double and tripled shade to test the possibility that the Maya photographs were made using small scale models suspended by transparent monofilament the investigators bring with them a detailed model of a beam ship they identify as variation to our Welsh flies the model on a Hilltop Above The Farmhouse Maya and Steven snapped several rolls of film the camera Maya is using is the same one with which he took all the other
17:33 pictures the results are impressive to the naked eye some of the photos appear genuine [Music] photographs they're interesting they look pretty good pretty good yeah I saw one difference in them and that was that those models look white they don't reflect that silver gleam like the pictures the Billy had you wanna look at the focus in them about the pictures oh yeah someone looks pretty bad but uh some of them look pretty good I think we ought to test them I think there's the model we're not all that good if in the pictures where he focused on the model The Horizon is out of focus where he focused on the horizon the model is out we should put him in there for comparative testing Under Computer analysis uh we've got to have that comparison so when we look at models there's a variety
18:20 of things that are different that object right there is solid it's one solid color there's very little Contour in it compared to other objects that are in the photograph there's no Contour to the object remember when we look at the other photographs that were taken by Meyer the width of the edges range from four to nine point of the story this is a small model it's easy to tell small models and we tested that fighter sequence and that came out pretty good we didn't find any strings in there and when we got through blowing it up in a computer we had the outline of the Mirage fighter everything the incident
19:05 occurred at schmobil Meyer claims the jet made 22 passes at the beam ship computer analysis using the information from a known object The Mirage fighter shows again that the beam ship is the size and distance Maya claims [Music] much of Maya's film has been lost or stolen but the remaining sequences are as promised the most astonishing ever released in one demonstration the beam ship flies around a tree which can be seen to sway in the backwash once again slow motion and slower
20:03 [Music] later samyasi brings a new beam ship to pose for Maya's cameras the variation quite unlike anything he has seen before she explains asbesty can understand it the function of the Spheres for propulsion of the craft in interstellar travel happy Saturdays Los Angeles photos
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22:23 you see the first she told me I shall get the most best pictures of UFOs what's ever happened on Earth the second thing I show go out to tell the truth so the human on earth why they are coming to here but the reason they have that they are coming to Earth not to harm us not to make poor not to bring peace why are they interested in us the society thousands of years behind them in technological development according to Maya who share common ancestors their forefathers were our forefathers we are in a sense family
