0:00 The politicians are using our people as raw materials. If you continue to tell them that when you come out somebody should give you job and you are not creating jobs, you are creating frustration. You go to university, some people are spending their life to read courses that no value, no skill, nothing only talking and they will even tell you they have first class in something which is useless. >> We are sat me down. >> You think it's a joke? >> But you were a pastor before. It didn't help us. >> Almost everything that you are crying for has some link >> with money. >> With money. If you don't have what to eat, where to sleep, you're confused about your life and you're still arguing, talking back, you'll be there for life is life and >> love and
0:45 the best place to succeed in this world is Africa. >> It's also the same continent that has a lot of unemployment issues because the way they have been programmed to think. God in his intelligence put [music] God in the debt. Go and pray it. You don't have the technology you are praying. Majority of the people who are praying every midnight finally open financial financial doors from where you don't have to pay any tithe to become successful. I'm telling you you don't have to sow any seed to become successful. God doesn't need money in heaven. In this life there are only two ways to make money. [music] Sena, you're welcome to connected Minds podcast. >> Thank you, bro. Thank you, bro. >> You're welcome to connected Minds podcast. You have been here twice. But a
1:32 year ago, myself and you, we had a great conversation. Um, so today, for the purpose of our audience, we'll keep it 99.99% English. >> Um, the rest can be pigeon. You're welcome to connected Minds podcast. Uh, my viewers and my listeners. Um, today I've assembled giants. Indeed, these are the people changing the mindsets of the average African on the streets. A few years ago, conversations about buying shares, starting a business, and being an entrepreneur was not that common among the young people. But these men have made it possible. Now, today a lot of young people are into entrepreneurship, and I'm very glad that they've chosen today to be a day. They also want to come and have further conversations with us. So if it's your
2:18 first time watching and listening, subscribe and become part of the family. My name is Derek Kabite and don't miss it. These giants are going to be at KUSD on the 9th of September at Great Hall. So if you don't have your ticket, this is the right time to get it before we get deep into the conversation that [snorts] will shift your mind and change your perspective about how money works and how to make one for yourself. So today we have coach Ecoon and my senior man engineer who is an entrepreneur. Um, these are both business coaches and financial experts. They both have their own businesses. They've been running for years. And now listen to me. This is my first question. Senior, why is it important to have business mindsets? I I I think it's it's necess necessary
3:05 for Africans, you understand, to develop that kind of mindset because to me there is shortage of employment in Africa. You understand? There is shortage of employment in Africa understand but there are no shortages of products and services but it's unfortunate that when you go to let's say our secondary schools we don't have something like entrepreneur they don't teach entrepreneurship in our secondary schools I don't know if they teach because I mean we have agre science we have visual arts general arts you understand what I'm saying but we don't have something like enter how do you say is entrepreneurship, entrepreneurship whatever. >> But is it important? >> But why is it important? >> It's important because like I said
3:50 earlier, there is shortage of employment in Africa. Now at this moment, if you are going to secondary, if you are going to university, right? Right. You complete university and you will not get the job. So it is better like the younger ones those who are coming they should have that kind of mindset to see if like if I'm going to school and I complete university I complete Lego or university and I I don't get somebody to employ me I can start my own thing. So I think we need to develop like it's a skill that we have to develop right from childhood because wearing suit and tie I mean it doesn't work like it doesn't work anymore in Africa it doesn't work. How
4:37 can you wake up in the morning, you bath, you go to work and at the end of the month your salary is like let's say it's not even more than $500 as a teacher, a nurse. >> But there are people who are comfortable with that lifestyle. >> They are not comfortable, brother. They are not comfortable. They are not comfortable. Comfortable in what sense? that you you you you cannot pay your children's school fees that you've taken like bank loans three or four like you can't build you can't buy a plot of land unless you take a bank loan you can't buy you can't build a house buy a car unless you take a how many how many teachers like with all due respect I'm not trying to disrespect anybody or police officers
5:24 can let's say buy a plane ticket take their family to let's say par or Dubai for all days how How many of them >> s do you have a number for for us? I don't have I don't have the data. >> I have no idea. But obviously I mean one ticket is how much I look at the salary. >> But so what's your view on what he's saying about business mindset and why is why is important? >> I don't think there are some questions that we should ask as Africans particularly Ghanaians. Um if you go to some countries one company can employ thousand people at a time. how many companies in our country can employ even 200 people at a time. It shows that um I mean we and we are grooming people from our secondary schools from our universities uh to come and somebody
6:10 should pay them. Of course that's the design of the school but you see the the whole concept of this modern education uh came because some people came here to colonize us. All right. Before they came, we had our own way of educating our people. And it was not sit down, be trained, write CV after school, then somebody will pay you one monthly salary. That was not the desire and I don't think it has changed that much and that's why we're still struggling to to to to close the gap in terms of employment. I don't think that u our leader should keep on you know giving us these statistics on unemployment rate because if you look at the the the the uniqueness of our of our
6:56 situation um we only have to tell our people there are problems that you solve and once you solve them and you can monetize them you can live your life without somebody giving you monthly salary. That is the reality that we live in. When we were children 30 years ago, we had grad graduate unemployment. At this stage in my life, I'm still hearing the same thing, which means not much has changed. >> Do you think that in the west these countries don't have problems with unemployment? >> I think the numbers are not as >> right. Ghana um how many universities do we have? I mean the last time JHS people wrote the exam was about 500,000 or so. SS people just about the same. My
7:42 assumption is half should go to tertiary that half. Yes. I I'm thinking uh teacher training colleges, universities, private universities, public universities. I'm just thinking if you assume that we have half of them in our investies and the tertiaries that's about 300,000 or 250 to 300,000. Now if every year you are bringing these numbers out look at the number of jobs that you're creating. Do you get me? I get it. >> Which means that if you continue to tell them that when you come out somebody should give you job and you are not creating jobs you are creating frustration and that's why our mind is on traveling. >> Okay. So the the the there has been conversations we've had where people have said that the purpose of education is not to get a job. What's
8:28 your view on that? Yeah, but it's true. [clears throat] I mean, it's true. Yeah. To me, it's true. Why? Why? Why do you have to go to school? You spend like from it's 20 years, right? From 20 years and after school, you need somebody to employ you. So, the point they were trying to make was that almost as if if the person doesn't get a job after university, it's okay. They've got other skills. There's there other things they can work with that they learned from school >> like what >> you know thinking skills um critical thinking um leadership skills they would have a network of people that should in case you know they do something in the future um they can you know network with these people and get help from these
9:15 people. The point we're trying to make is if the focus of education becomes job then it loses the the essence of education itself structured classroom kind of education. I think the design was to was to produce employees. That's why they give you profession engineer accountant um social worker because that was the setup. Somebody had to be a business person, open a factory and you would need so-called experts or professionals to work with them. I think that was the reason they designed school. I don't think they designed school so that you go through it and become successful. They didn't have to. I mean, if that were true, look at the people who control the world's economy. Where do their children go to school? What do they teach them? Are you are you sure
10:01 that they the same thing that they teach us in school is what they teach them at home? They wouldn't be able to manage the wealth that uh they leave them. So there's there's this wholesale information that they give us to make you feel that you've been given an education to face life, you know. So I think just like somebody going to learn trade, you go to school and you come out. Go to the websites of a lot of our universities and see who are they training them, where are they trading them to to go and look for job. That's it. It's there. Our graduates are being employed in top institutions in the country. That's what that's the essence. The other ones are deviations. So the main import of the especially the university education is so that you can come out and somebody should give you a job and look at the things that we praise in our country if they are having anniversary or some
10:48 programs they are I mean the people who completed those schools who do they heal it's not the people who have been employed how many times do you see them >> and the business people as well >> many times >> those that have created business out of them cuz they are the ones that go back and then build blocks that they don't really give them the the praise. I think those who are holding multinational positions uh government positions you know those are the ones that they praise more than somebody who has a provision shop somewhere out of university they don't >> I don't think education means you need to sit sit in the classroom >> you understand so let's say that mechanic uh who has been fixing your car he he's not a graduate
11:33 you understand but when you have a when you have a problem you go to the mechanic for him to fix your for you. He's not a graduate. Doesn't mean that guy is not educated. Somebody who I mean like a contractor that I mean war this place maybe he's not a graduate doesn't mean he's not educated. You understand what I'm saying? So education means you don't have to sit in the in the classroom before you can be educated. So we we we need to let people who are going through that system understand that they are not necessarily going to get a job after and that they should look at business as an alternative. Is it alternative or is the main thing? >> That is a system you understand and this system has been there you understand for so many years to keep people poor
12:20 especially in Africa. You understand what [clears throat] I'm saying? How many how many professors in this country can can can [clears throat] confidently say that I have $500,000 or $200,000. Me I've been going to China and I was in a flight one young lady sitting by me holding $200,000 from Mala going to China. You understand what I'm saying? So this whole thing about go to school I mean you have to be educated ma you don't have to sit in the classroom classroom before you can be educated knowledge you can acquire knowledge and I believe in self education I don't
13:06 believe in this whole thing about go to school and after school you I believe in self education you understand and I and I believe that we need to also have trade schools here in Africa let's say in Ghana you understand so that let's say If I complete university, I complete a secondary school. You understand what I'm saying? Let's say I can say that okay, I want to be a shoemaker and then you go to a trade school for that. Vocational school. >> Vocational school. >> But we don't have vocational school. Why are they why are they vocational? Why are they I think the only vocational school that we have here is [clears throat] cooking [laughter] meat pie going to learn meat pie like bread. We don't have we don't have those trade schools here. We don't have it.
13:53 But we need trade schools here in the if we want to succeed as a country. We need them. We don't need like not everybody want like we go to university I want to become a lawyer and you know because they can argue the lawyer they can argue very well. So they think this they are not these people are so because they can they can speak good English. You don't have to speak good English to I [clears throat] mean you you don't need English language to even succeed in life. You don't need that certificate. You understand that certificate to even succeed in life. >> Do do you have >> you need education but you don't need certificates? >> Yeah. Do you have some of those certificate? >> I don't have a certificate. >> Is that why you are so mature? >> It's not it's not it's not is that why am I not successful? >> You are. I just want to figure out that
14:39 >> I don't need I don't need that certificate. I don't need it. I don't need it to do what? So when did you realize that? >> This was about 15 years ago. You understand what I'm saying? 15 years ago. Like I I I said the other time, see years back life was so difficult for me. You understand what I'm saying? And I I decided to study successful people. And I I realized that those successful people there is something they know that like the ordinary poor person like they like they don't know. So I decided to study them study why is this guy successful? Why? So I decided to study and I realized that
15:26 all the successful people they have something in common. It it is either they have a certain scale or a business because in this life there are only two ways to make money. You need a product or service to make money and all the successful people in our world they have it. >> And it wasn't about certificate. So so my senior man here you know is an engineer. He has the certificate >> right. What's your view on what um Echo is saying? >> Echo said it rightly. Education is different from school. >> The one that we have is the boxers to go to school. >> Yeah. >> The knowledge is contained. [clears throat] >> But what you need in life to succeed is education. And that one especially
16:12 personal education >> and because that then you teach yourself for life. >> Let me stop you here for a minute. So, if it's your first time watching Connected Minds or you have been here before but still have not subscribed, do us a favor because majority of the people that watch our videos have not subscribed. This doesn't help us grow beyond what we expect. So, help us by hitting the subscribe button. Thank you. Now, let's get back to the conversation. >> You can't become successful in life holistically just because you have engineering degree. I mean do you know how many engineers who don't understand life? I mean there are critical things in life that you know what your life is about that your life is relevant. Um you have character you have some level of
16:58 advantage over money uh family health even influence in society. These things if you which course in the university is teaching any particular discipline this. So if you want to build I mean face life and build it you may have to go somewhere and get those. So it means that those who didn't get to those who didn't sit in any particular classroom to study physics or chemistry may not necessarily be disadvantaged because they still are open right >> to learn the basis that you need for life. So there's life education and there is school kind of education and many of us think that once we have the school kind it means we are equipped enough >> and I I will not even place it more than 10% >> right so >> of the information you need. >> So it's a combination of the two. >> I will not say the combination of the two. what you need for life. There's
17:45 life education, education you need for life and there's school one that is defined. Yeah, >> that's what many of us were pushed through and they told us that once you go through that you become successful. But the one you need to succeed in life is the life one. >> It's not the school one. The school one we we had no choice. So they push us through. That's why I'm speaking English. Yeah, I can write my name. But really that does not mean there are a lot of people who can write their names and still cannot pay their children's school fees. What I'm what I'm trying so hard to get out of this is that >> we are not rubbishing >> that system >> that we have been put through. The reason why we are all able to >> understand each other and communicate so that we don't rubbish that and say okay if it is success you're looking for in the society then it goes beyond your
18:33 certificate. You need you need the other things you've mentioned. So let me say something. If you want to become an let's say you want to become a businessman in future, why do you have to waste your time at the university? It's going to university is waste of time. If you want to become a footballer, why do you have to go to university? >> Huh? >> What if the football doesn't work out? >> But the other alternative. So but there are so many people who have completed universities and they are poor. So many of them. You understand what I'm saying? So I don't think me I decide not to go to university. I don't need it. I don't need it. You don't need university education. You don't need a degree certificate. Certificate is just a decorated paper. Decorated paper. You
19:19 don't need it. And I'm not saying like people should not go to university. That's not what I'm saying. But if you see yourself as somebody that let's say you want to become an entrepreneur, why do you have to go to university? Take your time and learn. Learn. You understand what I'm saying? learn from people like great people. You need like in Ghana we don't have we don't have trade schools which I think we need to have more trade schools here in Ghana in Africa. You understand what I'm saying? >> So so so say you have this young person who is 17 years old >> and he wants to be a business person. What are some of the skills you think they need that is more important than the degree they can have in a business school? So first of all you have to train your mind on how to get things done.
20:06 So for example if I want to become an air condition specialist when you go to YouTube it is there. >> They should be a YouTube student rather than um go to >> we shouldn't deceive ourselves. We shouldn't at the end we should not it's like we are trying to it is not working. This whole this school thing is not working. It's not working anymore. S what's your view on that? >> He's not wrong. That is that 17. You see, you're expecting something from something that is not designed to give. >> Okay. It's just like me finishing primary school and knowing how to, you know, pronounce ABCD, it's okay you pronounce it. But if they say that you're going to face life because you can write ABCD, that's different. We are talking about life. But I don't know why we jump we
20:52 bring um school as the holistic preparation for life. I I think that's why somebody will finish. There are many of our young minds who have finished university and still don't know what to do with their lives because we expect too much from this particular entity. It's okay somewhere it's it's if you go some that's that's okay if you don't go some you can still give yourself that training for for life. You see that that's where the difference should be. You are putting so much importance on this and so when you have it and you cannot leave then you feel like you're a failure. But in the first place you didn't have what uh it would take you to build this life that you have been made to believe that this particular it's just like you train a carpenter and then you expecting that carpenter to do surgery on you. [laughter]
21:41 The training is different. We are talking of life. >> Okay. >> We talking of succeeding in life. School trains you to be able to read in academic and even our school. Did we divi did we did we design this this current education ourselves? No. What was the beginning of it? Some British some Europeans came and said that we have to put you through school. You have to civilize you to think and behave as us but not as the best of us but our as our service. And so you are speaking your own language. They say you will not use that language to be taught in that school that they brought. >> You know um today >> yes >> if a young person wants to become a doctor. Yes, >> they know they have to go to medical school for between 4 to 7 years. >> Uh if they want to specialize, you know,
22:26 they do extra years to become >> a consultant, whatever it is. >> Now, if somebody wants to prepare themselves for life, where is the curriculum for that? >> That one is for life. >> So, where do you get that from? >> That's personal education. That's what we talk about. >> Yeah. But what are we learning? What's what you know that in medical school is a structured system. Yes. So you know this is the learning outcomes for term one. >> Yes. >> For life what is it? >> You don't need that structured system. >> Life does not give you structure [laughter] >> program. They told you that somebody should you see that's why the school people when they come to you the questions that they ask after they have gone through the school. You see that they want a template. They want an example. They want mentorship. Yes. They
23:11 want you to give them the exact procedures that they have to follow because that is the regiment they went through. But life is not like that. And that's why when you have you have come out of school, you are afraid to take risk because life is full of uncertainties. So you have to be prepared to face. >> But where do you get that preparation from to come from now? Now it's easy. I mean in the 80s it wasn't easy. >> Now it is easy that your smartphone, your laptop, everything is there. You understand? But in the 80s, ' 90s it wasn't like that. But now everything all go to cha cha GPT ask how can I do this ch step by step will give you everything
23:56 >> so if people are not doing it then what is stopping them >> they see they don't know >> okay >> that is they don't they are not aware you understand they are not aware that such information exist you see when you see I can say that 90 90 no let's say 80% of the no 90 90% of the when they go [laughter] when they go on social media. Look today this conversation they will blast >> when they go on social media. Do you know the things that they watch? >> No. >> They they listen to all sort of I don't want to mention names. You understand what I'm saying? I don't want to mention names. Now go to Tik Tok and you see oh this this lady was in China and this blah blah blah and you see 50,000 people watching listen to excuse me to say something that will not
24:42 benefit not. Yes, they add value to them. But let's see if my brother here is on live can have 10k people watching him. No, no, no. Mhm. [clears throat] >> Well, isn't it because the conversation about money sometimes can feel very uncomfortable >> because there's responsibility involved and many people don't want responsibility. They want magic. These are the things that will not put the the the work in their hands. You know, you have to build it. And that's why many people um will struggle in life because they are waiting for something supernatural to happen to them. The program of people is for if you're watching football, are you thinking you're just enjoying if you're dancing to music? Are you thinking?
25:28 >> Yeah. But can we take that out of life? >> No, don't take it. But it should not be the the main >> a certain I mean you know the this is the the last time that I watched this football like English Premier was the first time that Chelsea won uh the English Premiership. not the Champions League from that from I used to be fulltime Chelse but a certain point in time I said no what what like what am I doing to myself this is nonsense all these people are making they are millionaires multi-millionaires and you see the funny thing is that these guys who are using their data wif they don't have money >> to watch Nean Neman they know everything about Nean they know everything about uh what's their
26:13 Messi, >> you understand? They know their lifestyle. They know everything. But can they speak with these people who are who spent so many hours to watch Neman? They know their lifestyle, their girlfriends, whatever. Can they spend that hours to invest in themselves? They can't. Can they go to the internet? You understand what I'm saying? and and and and and consume information that will add value to them. They they they can't but they will sit down football. OH GO HAPPY. Happy happy for what? But as at certain point in life you need to you need to you need to understand that without money or without let's say there
27:01 are certain basic things you need in life and those things you can you can you can acquire it's just around you it's just it's not it's just around you you see but people are not ready to look for it. So my my my point is for example why do you have to spend 4 years or whatever in school and after school your motherh who was a kinky seller on that dancing [clears throat] paid your school fees whatever you hosted everything and after 2 years you still have to depend on your mother what so what what I mean what does it mean I mean this it means that even that knowledge that you acquired from
27:46 university is not is not even relevant. I'm telling you it's not relevant because that your mom who didn't go to school can after selling kinki or tomatoes carpenter your father is a carpenter you after 2 years you can still go to your father eh in the name of I'm looking for a job and your father will be giving you money every day chop money every every day you go to your father for money you depend on your parents your poor parents my question is why don't you even think about taking that carpentry job? You don't have to be necessarily have to be a carpenter and rebrand the rebrand that that uh uh business
28:33 do you get what I'm saying? But this this same person will go and watch Champions League uh whatever connected minds podcast is there. No, I don't have data. They will come. I don't have data. will pay money to go to independent square for 30th December. I'm not saying that it's not important. >> But when you are poor is a poor >> when you are a poor man should not should not entertain himself or herself. When you are poor, you are poor. You are poor. Don't entertain yourself. You need financial freedom to entertain yourself. When you wake up in the morning, your children supposed to go to school. If your children don't don't go to school, you you don't you don't waste your time. Let me tell you something. me I've suffered I've suffered you know you are
29:19 from we used to go to a you know we used to when those days very young we used to go to farm when we vacate we go tell at certain point in time when I was I said no this kind of life god forbid I don't I I don't want to be involved in going to farm no no no no so I have to I have to chart a new path and nobody told me that I have to I have to be aware of I mean whatever is going on my in my life I sat down there said No shel whatever radio I don't listen to I don't watch TV why should I why should I listen to politics in the morning in the morning politics in the afternoon politics in the politics why should I watch tell no it doesn't make sense but these same poor people are the ones
30:05 consuming this unnecessary information on our TV on on radio do do you understand what I'm but when they will complain that they don't have data when you are on live talk Uh, you have to make it fast because I don't have data. >> Yeah. Yeah. I was about to say, so there was a time I posted a video um and I was teaching about leverage on [snorts] Snapchat and someone commented that we are talking to fast. I don't have data. >> Listen, life is a choice. When you are struggling, when you are poor, you must know what to choose, what to do with your resources, what to do with your >> But if the poor person knew what to choose, they wouldn't be poor. But that's why they are hearing this. You see, everybody gets chance to hear something that will lift that will lift
30:50 them from their from their from their misery. Human beings are not that damn like I I'm not like I heard you have to build a library like he you have to build a library. I said I'll build a library bro continue. >> Yeah. You know, so life is fair and I dare say God is fair. So even though you were born in that there will be some condition some experience that will bring some kind of um um entry into you lifting yourself up. If you don't have what to eat, where to sleep, you're confused about your life, you cannot continue to sedate yourself. The world as we see it is designed to keep a lot of people confused and that's why they bombard us with a lot of entertainment.
31:36 You see the world does not argue when you're struggling but anytime that they put anything that will lift you out of your bondage then they come out with arguments and that's why those who succeed in this life are people who have sobriety of height of heart there are people who are ready to learn those who are ready they're like dry punch if you don't have that disposition it will be very difficult for you to succeed in life all right and so when you are in a situation and it's difficult and you're still arguing, talking back, you'll be there forever because the world is designed to make sure that they feed you with politics in the morning. Who told us that the the very thing that you need in the morning is politics? >> Politics. >> Look at the things that we discuss on the radio from morning to evening. Tell
32:21 me which one of them will add value to you if you're struggling. Because the very things that will help you to lift yourself so that the system does not crash you or take advantage of you is not something that is on wholesale. They do not put them there. You have to go and search for them. The precious things in life, they're not everywhere. You must go and look for them. And that's the sacrifice that you have to make. And that's why poverty is by default, not riches. So if you see a bland, what will germinate on that bail land? It's not organized fruit >> is weed. It's weed cuz that's the system entropy. [laughter] All right. But if you want something, so anytime that you go anywhere that is organized, I can be certain that over
33:07 90% of the time somebody's intentional about it. So there's intentionality. So when you're a young man and you want to succeed, you must be intentional about your life. And what are the priorities that you have to pay attention to? Your finances is key. Money is like blood in your system. If your system does not have blood, you're gone. In this life, almost everything that you are crying for has some link with money. With money. So, you must have the information how to make it, how to organize it, and how to make sure that you have enough to live for yourself and for others and for your family. If you don't have this primary education, you don't have education. >> Yeah. >> And that's why intentionally they took all your degrees and they took this out. So you come out of school and you still don't have a sense of priority of what
33:53 is critical or the most critical things in life. You don't know and that's why they debate. But once you're debating you think you are rehearsing for life. You're not rehearsing for life. You're living life. Life is life and colored you know. So that's why somebody can go through life up to 50 years. They still unaware. Their minds are on suspension because the most important things in life they playing with them. [snorts] If you see a child a child is a child because they are not responsible for anything. They don't know where life is going. There are many people without any plan for their lives. They don't know where their life is going because the basic information they need, they didn't have it. So they are not in full control of their lives. They don't even have self-confidence to say that this life, you know, one of the feelings that you have when you are not confident or when you don't know what you're doing or when you're wasting your destiny is that you
34:39 every time you get up in the morning, you don't feel like you are in charge of your life. >> You feel like something else is in charge of your life. The moment you become aware, you start to be intentional about your life, >> how you spend your time, >> where you go, what you eat, the people you talk to, what you read, what you watch. >> It means that now you you have become alive. That's where the consciousness comes in. You can't succeed in this life when you when you are asleep. And many people are asleep. When you are struggling and watching football, you are asleep. [laughter] You can't pay your rent and you are watching MB debating on unnecessary things. You are asleep. Life will beat you. And life is dangerous when you are poor. Right? So when they talk about you talk about we are not trivializing um school. The truth is that we have to come to
35:24 that point to tell them to change it. So long as we think it's important and we see the results then they won't change it. They have nothing. You go to university some people are spending their life to read courses that no value no skill nothing only talking. And that's why sometimes when do they even get into a critical position in a country they can't really think >> with solution because of the training that they had because some of the courses we don't need them. They're irrelevant but people will spend four years with degrees in them and they will even tell you they have first class in something which is useless you know. Sorry. [laughter] You want to build you want to build a nation >> and yet look at the tools that you giving to the young minds. So they come out all that they can do is
36:09 talk. You give them the work they can't deliver. There's no execution. Why? Because the training was insufficient you know. So we are not you say we are not trivialized but I mean for me you can even trivialize it and it will not be a problem at all because the what is important is the resource and if you look at the resources is not good look at the process and what is training our people what information are they getting what do do they even think is important >> well then is is is the same system that your our leaders have gone through >> okay so we judge ourselves by the I mean the resource if you think you're comfortable with the results then no problem are you okay with what you're seeing Look at the minds of I mean look at talk to any young man ask 10 of them or 100 of them do you see your future in Ghana
36:55 or you have to travel ask yourself that if you're doing good job they'll be very confident to create your own destiny here they will be ready to fight to develop our country it means that you're doing good job they will have the skill and the expertise to say that I can build it wherever I am if they are not saying that it means you're not doing good job. It's not because people want to travel anywhere. No, >> it's because the politicians are not doing their job. >> No, of course. Now, I mean 69 years of independence, right? Or 60 >> 1957 69. >> Yeah. It's almost 70 years. >> Whether we whether we as a country, we cannot even connect Ara to Kuma as a we cannot we can't fix it. You understand
37:41 what I'm saying? You see the kind of polit politicians that we have it's not that it's not that they are corrupt but to me they don't have what it takes to develop the they are not they not some of them are not smart enough I have to use that word sorry but some of them are not smart enough you see the fact that somebody can debate on radio doesn't mean that that person is I mean I when you give a position to that person he's fit for that position you see you will see somebody who has built a school m a school outside this continent and that person will be a deputy minister you understand what I'm saying you know where I'm coming from >> and somebody who has never like the person has zero knowledge about
38:27 education like and that person will be a minister doesn't make sense to you we like we don't know what we are doing bro we spend so much money on blast Black stars black star after 30 something years of uh I mean giving them uh qualification bonus what something something bonus winning bonus I think the last the last time they won the afon was about 30 something years ago but we keep on I mean [clears throat] investing money in black stars millions of dollars >> yeah but don't you think that's also a part of you know the society that needed >> we need to collapse GFA we need to collapse that GFA you understand if if the GFA the the the [laughter] the GFA
39:14 whatever uh the president if GFA GFA is his own business >> will he run it the way he's running [clears throat] >> so it means that we have people who claim that they have like PhD speak good English blah blah blah but they are not competent bro they are not competent look at a car a car is very dirty That is the reason why I mean I will not come out from my my house and clean water. I will not do it cuz there are some pe there are people who are supposed to do it. They've been paid. There are people who are in charge of that. They are supposed to do it. I'm not I'm not I'm not like negative person whatever. But you see the law the system must work. If the system is not is
40:00 working, we will not come from like just come out and say we are going to clean do clean and when we we bring this dirt or whatever from the gutter I mean we don't clear it we put it h I mean in front of the ga right or whatever you call it >> then we leave it there [snorts] >> now tell me when you go to an advanced country this [clears throat] people they travel they go they travel to so many places every every week they are London whenever have you seen the white man the way they construct this is that how they construct goddess or in in in in their country they don't do that so the thing is the prototype the thing is there why don't if they are smart I'm
40:47 not saying I'm not saying not all leaders I'm saying some let's let me let me be let me use the the correct word here some of them are not smart you And some of they don't have to you see even M P M P M P M P M P M P M P M P M P M P M P when I see M P they have this song they have this song MP is here to save Ghana whatever to save Ghana from what 8 years the dollar was 16 CDs we have soal professor the economic messiah whatever and the dollar was 16 cities so what are they coming to do they travel they go to Europe America go to Dubai whether they go they travel all over they cannot copy what the white man is doing and bring they can't that
41:33 simple thing they cannot do it when you go to medical school there's saying that you have to watch what your professor is doing you assist your you assist your professor now they say you you assist your professor you watch what the professor is doing then you do the same thing is that what we are seeing >> and this is all um a product of um the education that they have received >> of course. So we need to change everything. We need to change we need to change we need to change. There are so many things we need to change. >> The system is not working. >> What's your view on that on the system? >> The system is doing what it was designed to do. Go back to the to the beginning of the kind of education we have now. It
42:18 was religious. It was for religion. It was not for creativity and thinking. But when you say they want to come after you, that's it. the I mean the the other day some school was celebrating 185 something something who brought that that school so their intention was for you to you know um for them to convert us to a particular religion >> and culture not school or I mean proper school you're supposed to develop the minds of the people so that they can solve problems >> so the same people at the top have gone through the same system >> and it's a you see when it's an ecosystem >> the education the skill development there's ecution if it is supporting institutions and the intentionality the willingness of of heart to say that we want to do this it's an ecosystem when
43:04 you go to any place that is organized it's not just one of them it's everything right from [clears throat] the way they were they were conditioned from the beginning and how I mean supervisory roles are are even assigned and how they are monitored you said something if you are paying attention you can see that if you're intentional to develop an organized society we'll see it If you're trying to just patch them, we will see that. >> Now, now, so this is where the young people complain about the system. >> They say, "We are all ready to start a business. We we are happy to do all of that, >> but the system is not conducive enough to allow us to be." >> But where is the system conducive enough for the African? >> Where is it? What you eat maybe, but
43:49 after 30 years, they come with what? This is where we have to build. Something was hungry on us. We have to change it. And if you think that the system is not right here, therefore you move somewhere, no problem. So when is it going to change? We are the ones to change them. So don't expect I don't have the thinking that um somebody somewhere, some politician somewhere, some government somewhere will make things right so that you come. I don't see it. I think they are thinking of their life and their profile and what they will do for themselves more than you. So if you're a young man and you you are there and you thinking somebody's thinking how you become successful go ahead and think like that. I don't think >> Have you also realized that they rally the young ones the innocent young ones behind them?
44:35 >> Yes. >> And now they start getting themselves into trouble. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Is because they are not smart. It's because those guys are not smart. >> Now you see the trend. Yuko has started I mean inviting former ministers whatever. And you see these same people, the same people that are crying that there are no jobs, you don't have money. I mean why is that we are poor Africa, we are poor when you go to Euro blah blah want to go and somebody has taken 50 something million Ghana cities. I'm not saying like that's true is well known >> and you are complain that there are no jobs. So you think Africa is not like Ghana is not a good place to be whatever and you go to Yoko to to to demonstrate
45:22 that I mean free some so so and so free it means that I mean we are not serious you see the the politician the politicians are using our people as raw materials >> raw you understand what I'm saying yes because they realize that they are not serious they are not serious so if you are not serious how many of and the how many of you seen this demonstr have you seen their children be part of the I mean going going on demonstration you understand what I'm saying so I believe that we as parents we have responsibility to teach our children that's why I some of my video I said you if you if your parents are poor don't take financial advice from your parents and I said
46:08 mother unless your parent unless they have financial You understand? I mean, what what are you going to learn from your parents? I am teaching my children that m you don't need to get a job. And every I've been telling them you don't need to get a job. So right but when we were young I mean when you have money you like body [laughter] growing up you see that you you have milo uh milk siding they'll not give it to you I don't know okay maybe you are coming from a rich home so so there they call h cyborg what what's the name cyborg or they will just
46:54 use the millow the milk to design the the cyb All this what what they would just put TV in the middle of that and they will not even you you will drink Coke unless it's December December that even that coke three children of you are five you share it you share it you understand what I'm saying >> but you are talking about Coke it was um squash >> squash you understand what I'm so and and those I used I used to hear my my mother my my grandmom Ghana is hard in the in the 80s so Ghana is hard and I used to hear my mom me growing up Ghana is hard. So this Ghana is hard and started from way back and I told myself that me I see Ghana is not hard. Ghana is the best place to make money if you are smart.
47:42 If you are if you are smart >> so you think the people that are not making money they are not smart. >> I'm not saying they are not smart. They are not some some of them are not aware. You understand? They they are mine on some of them they their mind is on vacation so leave it's on vacation that's you understand that's what I'm because me no no nobody nobody told me to to be serious in life I come from a poor home I'm not from a rich home I'm not from I at certain point I said no no no this thing will not continue let me tell you something you see there are opportunities around us so many opportunities in Africa so many of them opportunities in Africa so if if if you see somebody say ah there are no opport you You you you are just like you are not you are not being serious because see here in Ghana or in
48:28 Africa you can you can wake up tomorrow and put watermelon banana in front of like even your your own house >> your own house >> but in Europe it's not like that you can get a container somewhere you can go to Ara like I'm speaking to you today can go to Ara And if you have 200 say 300 cities, it is easy to start a business in Africa. It is easy to succeed in Africa if you are smart. Man is it's also the same continent that has a lot of unemployment issues. People are complaining they don't >> because the way they have been programmed to think.
49:14 You understand what I'm saying? See when you go to India they did their research and they would tie a young elephant with chain in in a concrete concrete or something like that. So when the if the baby elephant is growing you would the elephant will try to move try and try and try I mean it cannot move. So at certain time, at certain age, the they will just remove the chain and put just a stick or something and and put just a rope and tie the elephant. The chain the elephant cannot move because the elephant has been programmed to think it's still the same concrete. >> Yeah, >> that is that that that is that is how we have been conditioned to think. It's a mental problem. Absolutely. It's a
50:02 mental problem. It's not poverty. is not because we don't have opportunities. It's information we have. The software is not right. And the humans operate with software. The culture, the training, the information, exposure. But you know what to think about the mental processes. We are responsible for what you see. That's why this will come because they have different software. In no time, you're organized. We identify things differently. What you see is based on what is what you are thinking about, isn't it? And what you think about based on what you know. What you know means what you've been exposed to. So when the exposure is wrong, when the training is wrong, when the sayings are wrong, you grow our program just like the same elephant that I could talk about. It's not anything but you can move it because you're conditioned and
50:48 we only reflecting our our thinking. Anyway, the ch the ch the shirt that you chose even the desire here is based on your your mental processes. when we see anything that you are doing how you put things together they based on what you think and how you think the training that you have you have had and that's where we have to and and that's why I think our most critical um duty as a people is to change that software and that's exactly what you're doing it's not the money it's not giving people money no because you can give people millions if they don't know what to do they will destroy it so people think that you should give people no until the mental processes are Right. Don't give the money just like you pouring money in a in a leak water or in
51:34 in a leak basket. You lose it, you know. So, so the duty as an African, as a young man is to make sure that you don't grow or you don't continue this wrong thinking because we were born into an environment where the thinking you are so likely to have wrong thinking. The way you see yourself, the way you think of us, a lot of the things that train us are entirely wrong. even through our investies watch our TV even from the pulpit sometimes when our leaders are talking on TV you know that this information will make people poor [laughter] so if you don't give yourself different information >> then you become just like them >> just that's it >> but but then sometimes is it because the people the people even giving the message the leaders themselves don't know because they were coming from the same system >> they are coming from the same system
52:19 Africa's problem is that one a people cannot when you don't when you don't have right selfimage everything else will present to be wrong. Which people talk so negatively about themselves. Which people are trying to look or to become like any other people but themselves. Which people hardly accept who they are. Look at our names. Look at our you know our skin color even our language we fight it. We are so you know other people are so ready to sell to us because they know
53:05 that we are ready to abide from them than ourselves we're from that >> it's a conditioning so that's why the African who who succeeded here will be an African who has worked on that one I see at a certain level and be proud of the success here and that if you take that success from that person they will be they will still be able to build it those Africans are very different the software is different the primary processing data is different I'm telling you that's why they are consistent in their language they're consistent in their action a lot of the things that you need to succeed you can have them checked in their lives because they have given themselves different kind of education if you don't or if you don't have that kind of education
53:51 the default setting will work >> that will be you you wait for the government you wait for God you're [clears throat] looking for visa, you're waiting for somebody to give you funding, you're looking for political connection, visa is something that fascinates you. If you marry a white girl, it means that you are blessed. You worship white Jesus. When he die, it means that you are civilized those cuz there are so many of our people here who are doing well who you can still trick. >> Right. Right. >> You can still trick. >> They still fall for >> that's it. distance because we were born into it. M when you are going to school eh once you get to primary one if you went to maybe um you start to they start to teach you English is it s o so g o go
54:41 but I was speaking my mother's language why would I not continue with that what was wrong with my language my name is at home I go to school they have to add another English name what was wrong with my name >> yeah now if you put somebody through these processes and they grow up it's not easy for you to lost identity. >> That's right. So when they bring the contract he say sign the gold for them would would it be difficult for you to sell the gold 3% it will not be easy it will not be difficult because already you're broken the guy have you seen any watch our TV anytime that you see any investor do they look like you and so the young man is just reflecting the programming and that's why I'm saying that if you want to deal with that give yourself different kind of education not the one
55:27 that they giving to you in school because if that were enough you would not be that less self-confident. You'll be confident. Education is supposed to make you see yourself like I can do it no matter what. That's an education wherever I am. That's an education to become who you are. >> Wherever I am. >> Yeah. Right. >> That's it. So in my village, if I'm properly trained, I will see opportunities. I will never see that there's there's nothing in this village. And yet you d you you look around and there's big land and you still can't see opportunity until some Chinese man comes open a business that employs you and give you thousand and you're very happy and you're sitting on gold and you don't even see it
56:13 cuz you can't see yourself as you can. If you wear green uh glass Yeah. everything becomes what? >> Green. >> Green. If you're negative everything becomes negative. So at this point in the conversation um I'd love to you to drop your comments um the notes you're making the thoughts you have about what we are discussing in the comments right now and just to remind you that we are taking coach Echo and my senior man to Kumasi for connected minds live 2026. It happens only once in a year and you have to be there because the conversation has just started. Um this is a platform that has changed a lot of people's lives. Um they could not
57:01 imagine what they themselves could do but we have opened the platform for people to be able to think bigger and build bigger. So I see you in Kumasi. The link is in the description and also in the comments. You can click and grab yourself a seat. Now let's get back to the conversation. Then there are the people who graduate from the surroundings we have here, gather money and travel abroad. Now there are two types of people. There are the people whose parents take them because they are young enough you know they want them to go and carry on with their education there like myself and then there are the people who you know then they hustle up then they gather money they're doing some
57:47 business here. In fact, some of them will even sell their lands and sell their houses and then travel abroad because they've done everything they can. It still doesn't work out in their own eyes. What's your view on such people? >> If you went and you were a child like yourself, you had no choice because then you were living on the decisions of your parents. Yes. >> But as as an adult, if you still think that you can't have any opportunities here, the problem is the knowledge that you have. This is what our people don't want to hear because if you project into 30 40 years life lived is freedom. Okay? And you can't reach freedom until you have the truth. And so if at the end
58:34 of it you enslaved, you didn't have the truth. So it means that your judgment was wrong. What I'm saying is that I've never seen any wealthy man whose time is controlled, who is not proud of what he's doing. Never. So what you're chasing is food and water. What we are discussing is worth, is generational, is freedom, is dignity, is living the best of life that you can. They are not the same. So there's somebody who just looking for food to eat and there's another person who wants to build something they cannot think the same. So if you have been able to begin something here and you still think that you want to sell that and go somewhere because you think that is where you can get money
59:20 just go and do your sampling. How many after 30 years can still be proud of what they do there? You know the Africans were were put in a situation where you should be uncomfortable trying to succeed in your own land. You have to go and become a born servant. When you use that word, they say it's too harsh. But that's the truth. It doesn't matter the profession. Instead of us to work for the growth of our continent, we are very happy to work for those who have taken millions of us. But they said all these if they work here, the money is not enough. It's >> it's not enough where they are. How many can stop work for how many months? How many can live with that salary? So if the money is enough, why have you worked for 30 years?
1:00:06 What's your view on that? >> But to me, I've said it many time. It doesn't make sense to me. To me, it doesn't make sense that you raise over $10,000. Okay. [clears throat] You give that money to a connection man. That connection man himself lives here. He lives in Africa. He doesn't believe in that EO. He lives here. Collect this money. I want to go to Europe. I want to go to America. You go and you you become a secondhand citizen. You understand? It's like you wash bowls, you take care of older people, you change their and then I was talking to somebody yesterday and he said whatever you guys have been saying is true because see and you see one thing is that and this
1:00:52 person that I'm talking about who go to the like where she works and she will spend like 4 months taking care of this >> old people four months before she from home. You understand? And this 4 month she just she will be indoors. You don't have you not go anywhere. Does it make sense to you? There's somebody who said he doesn't have money but was able to raise over $10,000 to travel. It means that that there is something wrong with you. Excuse me. There is something wrong with I'm not
1:01:37 insulting anybody. >> But what should they use the money for? >> You have how how were you able to raise that money in the first place? Huh? You were able to raise that money to travel. Okay. But you you you cannot see like opportunity around you. See opportunity opportunity does not have a signpost. Opportunity will not announce itself that I'm I'm opportunity. Oh, opportunity. Oh, but you see when you when you wake up in the morning and there's this provision shop in your in your in your area and you go and I mean the lady has closed the shop and there are people asking about this this lady doesn't open their shop on time. Something is telling you that you can also start
1:02:22 selling water or provision the same provin shop in that area. Our population we we are over 30 million population 30 million in the morning money is just changing hands from the truck driver to the pharmacist to whatever money is just flowing you you understand what I'm saying 30 we are over 30 million people one person cannot supply bread in this in this even the whole Ghana one person cannot supply bread one person one person cannot supply uh yam in this whole community. So there are so many opportunities but you see we have been programmed to think that what we have like we don't have no like this
1:03:10 business is not good with I mean you see at first you when you see someone who has completed university and that person okay I've completed I don't have a job let me start this uh rice business or I let me start trying yam on the road side you see his colleagues will start laughing at him and I look up this smart guy look at you tell him what I'm on the [clears throat] roadside indomi on the roadside but this same person who is laughing at this guy doesn't he he's not working home but he's laughing as his friend who has started Indomi business on the roadside you so we have been we have been programmed to think that what we have we don't I mean what we have
1:03:56 >> that's nothing >> and we for I mean and we have accepted it bro there is money in Africa money so much money here but we are not we are not thinking so I don't mean I don't I don't think that you have to gather money and and say see if you I'm not I'm not I'm not promoting China no but what I'm saying is somebody is going to China and someone is also going to America the person the same two people one with each of them 10,000 the one going to China in one year if If the person will be serious and do things right will succeed more than that the p that guy going to America. I'm telling you honestly I'm telling you honestly because see
1:04:43 like I said there are so many things you can do with your with your life here in Ghana. Now I went to my hometown two weeks ago I went to and when I was coming and I saw people selling tante palm oil on the road side. So, so what is wrong with us? If you have completed university, common wisdom should tell you that I can buy plantain, go to the go to villages, bring plantain, uh, yam, h, kto, whatever they call it, coco yam to a palm oil and supply in Ara because now now me, we all growing. So me like I want to eat organic organic
1:05:29 food I don't want to eat sugar no I want to eat organic so we will buy but you see because we have been programmed to think what we have we don't have I mean
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